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posted on Jan, 26 2014 @ 05:07 AM
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If you took two guys in off the street for a tour, is it because they need to be " invited" in and can't just wander in on their own accord?


Yes I know it goes back to solomans temple and Sumerian, Babylonian origins. Hermes etc




posted on Jan, 26 2014 @ 06:40 AM
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violet
All they need to join is to "believe in a higher power" but they don't mean God. Catholics are not accepted.


It is not belief in a 'higher power' but a Supreme Being which, last time I checked, means God. There are quite a few dual members of the Knights of Columbus in my lodge. We had no issue letting them in, their monsignor however was not too happy that they joined. This goes to show who, in my opinion, is the more tolerant group.



posted on Jan, 26 2014 @ 06:58 AM
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In my Lodge there are about 9 Catholics, 4 Protestants and 1 Muslim. I bet its news to them that they are worshiping Satan.

99% of what I read against Freemasonry is false. If I wanted to build a case against Freemasonry I could do much better than that. The arguments against us are so poor that you wonder if anti-masonry could be classified as a subset of some officially diagnosed mental affliction.



posted on Jan, 26 2014 @ 07:09 AM
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violet
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By God do you mean higher power? That's just a cover to make it seem it's about God!
I encourage you to research what you joined.
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Oh, you must be one of those people who have lots of Gods. You have a God of the lettuce, a God of the Bathroom, all that. See, I just believe in One God. The Omnipotent creator of all. Jesus' Father. That guy.

And I not only researched it, I joined it. I know all the things I wondered for fact now. So I know what is lie and what is fact.
I can say, that what folks like you have in their minds is so far from the truth is funny. And you call us brainwashed. You are like little minions of lies. You have no idea about much of anything, yet you peddle your stories as if they are fact.

If you ever man up enough to look at that site I linked, it explains very well all the garbage you have been told.

If you are born again, then your programming may be too far gone.



posted on Jan, 26 2014 @ 07:38 AM
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violet
Another thing
Why are your lodges located adjacent to churches and all the windows boarded up?


Interesting the satanist Michael Aquino was into Rosicrucianism at one point in his life.
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My two lodges are no where near any church , nor are the windows "boarded up" , we have blinds on the windows but we keep them open to let in natural light . In my district I know of only two , out of seventeen , lodges that are adjacent to any churches . And the two that are adjacent to a church were a matter of cheap land to build on and nothing more .



posted on Jan, 26 2014 @ 07:38 AM
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Sorry , double post
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posted on Jan, 26 2014 @ 07:54 AM
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violet
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If you took two guys in off the street for a tour, is it because they need to be " invited" in and can't just wander in on their own accord?





I am a member of two lodges , one country lodge and a city lodge . In my city lodge we are in the office most everyday so there is most always a car or two in our parking lot , and we have men walk in off the street all the time "uninvited" asking about Masonry or just wanting a tour of the HUGE building . And they are more than welcome to just wander in , EVERY room in our building is open to them , no door is locked . We have been sitting in the office and looked up to see a non-Mason knocking on the office door because they just wandered in on their own accord , we do not care as we have nothing to hide in our building . We have gained a few good Masons this way , they sit down and talk to us , take a tour , like what they hear and see in the building and asks us for a petition .

Heck our cleaning lady has a key to our building and has free run of the place all on her own .
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posted on Jan, 26 2014 @ 10:14 AM
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My husband is Catholic and a Mason. I'm a Rosicrucian. Nothing we do is worshipping the being you call Satan. I worship and believe in the same God that you do. So does my husband. I call out to the very same angels that you do.

Nothing in the order's teachings goes against my moral code. In fact, most of the teachings are about self improvement and spiritual growth that would make any church, pastor, or priest proud.

This is the reality. One I have lived probably much longer than you have been alive. Still don't want to take my word? Go to a Rosicrucian meeting. If you are married, send your husband, brother, or male friend to ask a Lodge member about joining. You can see for yourself instead of taking trash as gospel. You are feeding off of someone else's hate, prejudices, and misinformation.



posted on Jan, 26 2014 @ 01:20 PM
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False. They came off the street randomly, they weren't invited; quit putting words in my mouth. I was up in my office and heard the doors open. No, Freemasonry is a voluntary organization and one must join of their own free will and accord, not invited.



posted on Jan, 26 2014 @ 02:11 PM
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CIAGypsy
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Nothing in the order's teachings goes against my moral code. In fact, most of the teachings are about self improvement and spiritual growth that would make any church, pastor, or priest proud.



Agreed , I have found nothing in Freemasonry that goes against my moral code or objectionable , NOTHING . If I did I would have allowed me feet do the talking and left many years ago . The teachings of self improvement in Freemasonry was what lead me back to the church . Though my religious beliefs have changed during the years I have been a Mason and I am a now Deist , I still attend church when I can . But I have spread my wings , I attend many different churches , I attend temple with my Jewish friends etc; etc; just to broaden my mind and see things the way they do and not be so narrow minded (ETA: Not saying your narrow minded , just a general comment).
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posted on Jan, 26 2014 @ 06:57 PM
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Phi Nancyliebersdeaddog I hope I answered your questions a little bit, thank you for your concern. Sorry if it seemed like I was giving the finger to everybody, just a lot of people used to hate me make fun of me and sorta wish death upon me....and I was just trying to say my peace. I am younger and was 24 when I first started writing online, and there is this ad that says for car insurance if your between the ages of 18-24 or 25-30 or 31-40 and so on . I see sometimes when I am on this site. My writings might sound nieve or a little crazy but if you want I can try to go into them further. Thank You.



posted on Jan, 26 2014 @ 07:04 PM
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letmeon
My writings might sound nieve or a little crazy but if you want I can try to go into them further.


No. Please do not.



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 05:01 PM
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AugustusMasonicus

It is not belief in a 'higher power' but a Supreme Being which, last time I checked, means God. There are quite a few dual members of the Knights of Columbus in my lodge. We had no issue letting them in, their monsignor however was not too happy that they joined. This goes to show who, in my opinion, is the more tolerant group.


Sadly, some of the true moral virtues such as tolerance have been excluded from many churches' teachings, particularly Christian churches.

Here's a small anecdote of something funny that happened last week... I have a standard King James Version Bible which has a Masonic Square and Compass embossed on the front cover. Last week, a 'Christian' friend of my wife's came to visit and saw the bible. She would not pick it up nor read it, and insisted it was an evil book, because of the cover. When I mentioned that it was the a standard King James Version, she insisted that the book had been altered to contain false teachings. When I asked why she said so, she said that the Masons had a different "Masonic Bible". I asked her to look inside to see for herself that it was a standard bible, but she would not touch it, and left later without having looked inside, triumphant in the fact that she had now "seen" a real Masonic bible, thereby confirming that all the stories she had heard about Masonic Bibles were true.

Go figure...



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 08:06 PM
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letmeon
Phi Nancyliebersdeaddog I hope I answered your questions a little bit, thank you for your concern. Sorry if it seemed like I was giving the finger to everybody, just a lot of people used to hate me make fun of me and sorta wish death upon me....and I was just trying to say my peace. I am younger and was 24 when I first started writing online, and there is this ad that says for car insurance if your between the ages of 18-24 or 25-30 or 31-40 and so on . I see sometimes when I am on this site. My writings might sound nieve or a little crazy but if you want I can try to go into them further. Thank You.

You did answer my questions but you left me with a lot more to be honest. I do hope when you said you had been set up for a columbine like shooting you meant that someone found a gun in your car or book bag instead of you where a suspect in an actual shooting. I try to have an open mind and I think you should take in account that there is a good chance Cooper wasn't talking about your grandfather in his book and maybe music artist aren't really talking about you, we all have things in our lives that are in common with different music artist's. May I ask what a car insurance ad on the internet has to do with you? I do want to say I'm not saying your story isn't true because I don't know you, I've done that to other people on this site and it doesn't accomplish anything.



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 10:34 PM
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letmeon
Phi Nancyliebersdeaddog I hope I answered your questions a little bit, thank you for your concern. Sorry if it seemed like I was giving the finger to everybody, just a lot of people used to hate me make fun of me and sorta wish death upon me....and I was just trying to say my peace. I am younger and was 24 when I first started writing online, and there is this ad that says for car insurance if your between the ages of 18-24 or 25-30 or 31-40 and so on . I see sometimes when I am on this site. My writings might sound nieve or a little crazy but if you want I can try to go into them further. Thank You.

You did answer my questions but you left me with a lot more to be honest. I do hope when you said you had been set up for a columbine like shooting you meant that someone found a gun in your car or book bag instead of you where a suspect in an actual shooting. I try to have an open mind and I think you should take in account that there is a good chance Cooper wasn't talking about your grandfather in his book and maybe music artist aren't really talking about you, we all have things in our lives that are in common with different music artist's. May I ask what a car insurance ad on the internet has to do with you? I do want to say I'm not saying your story isn't true because I don't know you, I've done that to other people on this site and it doesn't accomplish anything.


I wrote a letter to a girl in April of senior year, the next day the kid who attacked me with his gang when I was 13 that was an un solved crime said I wasn't stabbed I was molested. I guess the whole grade laughed at me, I couldn't follow up with the girl was a loner and didnt talk to anyone in my grade. On the last day someone said I was going to get jumped so I went home and got batteries I duct taped together in my clenched fists. I looked for them and they didnt show. So I went up to graduation looking for them, when I got there it was on the field I just walked in my trench coat and was hot so said F it went home. People saw me . I had a P.O. Box that I would order pipes and things from and my first package was opened by the Post Office earlier that year, I was wearing a trench coat and they thought I was getting weapons.

I didn't know I was under radar. After I wrote letter I don't know if it sounded like a manifesto or a suicide note. IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO. They thought I knew I got molested and was going on a killing spree. After I left someone called the cops , when they picked me up next summer after I ran out of the house after a week of the Television set sending " messages" and I didn't know why, they told me " they wish they could've shot me " joking or something.

The car insurance ad just reminds me I am sort of outta my league on this website. I am 30 barely finished high school, I wasn't supposed to be at that graduation because I was graduating next year cause of attendance problems and almost dropped out. I went to two college classes and had to leave them before they finished. All the people here have great wealths of information about a lot of subjects. Some are parents and grandparents and have experience a lifetime of and have had careers. Trying to compete on here or swim with the rest, when they wanna go on and on about something I gotta look up and research. I don't really read that much, I work full time and like to relax after work unwind.

There is a movie called Blade Runner and in it at the end a cyborg who is being " retired" killed says something like ....if you could've seen everything I have seen. Ten years in my house with the TV . Hallucinations that are audio and video appearing on a 40" screen for 15 seconds then gone for six years , then 24/7 audio hallucinations cause I ODed on Psychedelics and gave self schizophrenia. The hallucinations I heard for the first 15 seconds when Jon Stewart said " There is a camera in your tv" were different from later " hearing voices". They were really quiet in your head, I head him say that with my ears, not in my head. In 2004 he said in a commercial or the end of his show , put on a Darth Vader mask and said " Luc I am your Father".

For the first few years everything was really quiet, but I faithfully watched the Daily Show his whole career and over time a subliminal or two. Also the radio in my room , I used to listen to KROCK and the DJs would send me cryptic code rarely. I know how that sounds, but I found out there were wire taps in my room. Because it was like the Poltergeist movie, it ended the end of 2012 and it was like the house went into a black hole and I stopped dictating to wire taps and lived a normal life again. I used to hang out with government people in my room I had nothing better to do I was alone. Over ten years I don't necassarily "believe" I sorta knew for a fact that they were here. I can't show you anything to prove this to you, though.

My grandfather was in the Air Force in the 50s, and Cooper speaks of someone he knew or heard of. After awhile with all the "coincidences". Why is the music here? Government Conspiracy. I have been following the musicians around for a long time and every once in awhile they drop a jewel of information. In 2002 , my high school graduation was 2001 there was this band New Found Glory who had a video with two kids with a crown of metal thorns in black and a guy dressed as a superhero with tightly whites on the outside swinging from a balcony. In I shot Lucifer by Bionic Jive, says "a governmental conspiracy to murder me". On Nicky Minaj " Up in Flames" she says "meetings with the president of every network, that is what I call how to network", Muse Apocalypse Please says,"and this is the end , this is the end of the world, it's time we saw a miracle , it's time for something biblical" . I am going through my CDs now. There are others ...I guess just strange subliminals.

Also William Cooper has a chapter named Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars. I think that sums up everything I went through perfectly. No one was supposed to know. Few did locally and the blur of politics and being Mr. Special could've gotten me killed. I also was trying not to be made into a martyr for saying this online , because some people are crazy....and you never know. I believe William Cooper had inside intel of my story and talked crypticly about it. I just have been doing this for a long time and searching for a long time.

The masons on this thread don't really like me and I was thinking of started a new thread if you wanna talk some more. I went online in 2008 and people brutally made fun of me and I got death threats, I got a chip on my shoulder. On my own thread a lot of people were making fun of me and in so many words calling me stupid or a mental case. I am usually a very nice person. Sorry I took a vacation from the site and made you wait just got a little nervous about things.



posted on Jan, 28 2014 @ 06:34 PM
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Ohh man I'm extremely sorry you were molested and then had to deal with your classmates acting like idiots, no one should have to did with that. If I read your time line correct that would mean you graduated from high school not long after Columbine happened? Do you think maybe you weren't actually set up for a columbine like event but some of your classmates or school officials overreacted after Columbine when they saw you had been bullied, a loner, wore a trench coat on a hot day, and had a PO box? I think you need to give yourself more credit ,I'm pretty sure you're not over your head on here mostly everyone has their own way of contributing to this site heck I just turned 24. Everyone on this website has to research information things the post on or at least should. I just want to say I really don't think Jon Stewart is working for the government and giving you coded messages on the Daily Show plus I do want to say I wouldn't talk about doing drugs on here since I'm pretty sure against the T&C.

Edit: Are you saying actual government agents came over to your house and hung out, what did you parents or neighbors think? If you don't mind can you tell us their names?
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posted on Jan, 28 2014 @ 09:26 PM
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I wasn't molested the kid said I was and was laughing at me. It was in 2001 and everyone just overreacted. People from a government agency didnt come to my house. They were in a television set and had wire taps listening in on my house. I know how this sounds. I just had a great day today hanging out with one of my friends and feared what would happen if he found out my secret identity. People had resentment for me, my dads partner who we worked with had lots of religious issues and said one time looking at a stop sign with a 911 Truther thing on it sticker ( stop 911 truthers) I wonder what that means, people all around me looked at me as diseased caused I flipped out when a GUY unzipped my pants when I was sleeping, especially girls. I just want to live my life and not be blamed for the WORLDs problems personally, I am not The Powers That Be , I was their whipping boy.

This was a big deal everyday for about three years all over the Internet , for those that remember**** , I have already met people here that do. I am not trying to convince people or new people of my story , just following up with people who already knew about it. Trying to talk in code to them. The NWO, illuminati and the Freemasons. New World Order. Revelations. This is Prophecy.

I am sorry , this must sound like the rumblings of a madman. I probably shouldn't of come here.



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 06:16 AM
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letmeon
I am sorry , this must sound like the rumblings of a madman.


I agree.

You need to get some help. Now.

The government was not in your television.

No one sent you coded messages.

No one herded you into the mental health industry.

No one gives you schizophrenia.

In short, these are all paranoid delusions and indicate that you need to seek serious help for your problems.



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 05:52 PM
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I am a pharaoh , ..... :-) I know how that sounds. I guess you had to see it to believe it. In some ways I am like the last Sion , and in other ways I am not. I am not bloodline of Jesus Christ, I am the last trace to his teachings . The last chapter of the Bible, and the people who were around 2000 years ago. Revelations is very colorfully written and cryptic, but I was made into the Beast with a head injury. I even have the scar on my right wrist inside. I remember reading about that but then couldn't find it again. The beast all grown up becoming the anti-christ. A copycat to a mass murderer and a Meglomaniac , "you are a testament to your people". The bad guy or the opposites , there is a lot of symbolism involved that is beautifully positioned. Prison population.

The Freemasons have been around a 1000 years I think. I got to read up on them . " skilled workers and tradesmen". Don't you think there could've been a conspiracy no one knows about over their time to create and build an empire that would span the four corners of the map. They are all very intelligent and are got at hiding things in their architecture and cathedrals.

We are just two people , you don't know me and I don't know you, but I know "describing " my time with them isn't so good. Brief assumptions. I don't really want to argue and will probably not stick around to long. Peace.



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 09:48 PM
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I wasn't molested the kid said I was and was laughing at me. It was in 2001 and everyone just overreacted. People from a government agency didnt come to my house. They were in a television set and had wire taps listening in on my house. I know how this sounds. I just had a great day today hanging out with one of my friends and feared what would happen if he found out my secret identity. People had resentment for me, my dads partner who we worked with had lots of religious issues and said one time looking at a stop sign with a 911 Truther thing on it sticker ( stop 911 truthers) I wonder what that means, people all around me looked at me as diseased caused I flipped out when a GUY unzipped my pants when I was sleeping, especially girls. I just want to live my life and not be blamed for the WORLDs problems personally, I am not The Powers That Be , I was their whipping boy.

This was a big deal everyday for about three years all over the Internet , for those that remember**** , I have already met people here that do. I am not trying to convince people or new people of my story , just following up with people who already knew about it. Trying to talk in code to them. The NWO, illuminati and the Freemasons. New World Order. Revelations. This is Prophecy.

I am sorry , this must sound like the rumblings of a madman. I probably shouldn't of come here.

Well that's good you weren't molested but still having someone randomly saying that is scary/crazy. I'm pretty sure the 9/11 sticker on a stop sign had nothing to do with you but someone hates 9/11 conspiracy theories. A lot of people dislike some truthers and think the theories are bunk. Maybe you are misconstruing the way people are looking at you and they feel bad someone tried to take advantage of you. How would these people know some guy tried to take advantage of you while you were sleeping? I don't see why anyone would blame the worlds problems on you when you aren't in power.



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