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Originally posted by SilentKillah
Originally posted by FuZe7
Originally posted by SilentKillah
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by Tiger5
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
BFT,
Ya know you have completely missed the point. I asked you to consider what a group of black professional experiences of racism are. The thing about being black is the high visibility factor. You could have two Phdss and be a CEO you are black therefore there is an instantaneous automatic set of assumptions that kick in within the first 30 seconds of contact. This mythical black man with the 2 PHds is probably judged and found lacking BEFORE he can even blurt out “I got 2 Phds”. This is what happened with Zimmerman.
A black man with 2Phds probably doesn't dress like a gangster, while standing in the rain and profiling homes to see whats the best opportunity to break in and steal from. He dresses appropriately, speaks appropriately, and conducts himself appropriately.
Hot air and irrellevant!
Oh... really... dressed like TM? I may not have a PhD YET, but I am in a Doctorate program in Management and have MS degrees in Program Management and Software Engineering. I've already stated in this thread... on a chilly night, you better BET I'll be standing outside smoking a cigarette dressed JUST like TM. You think I'm going to put on a suit to step outside and smoke??? And yes... I do smoke in the rain. Most nicotine addicts do. Oh... and if I'm running low on cigs, why would I drive to a store right around the corner? I'd smoke one walking there, and another walking home! You'd profile me knowing NOTHING about me. Just because I wore a hoody to cover my head from the rain and cold while walking to the store. How ignorant is that... really?
As long as you're not creeping through backyards, or violently attacking people you'll be perfectly fine.edit on 17-7-2013 by FuZe7 because: (no reason given)
I walk through the woods to go to the store. I cut a path through my back woods that leads to the street. I'm just lucky there are no other houses around for someone to profile me. Or I'd probably be dead on my OWN PROPERTY going off of how "people like you" act!
Originally posted by SilentKillah
Oh... really... dressed like TM? I may not have a PhD YET, but I am in a Doctorate program in Management and have MS degrees in Program Management and Software Engineering. I've already stated in this thread... on a chilly night, you better BET I'll be standing outside smoking a cigarette dressed JUST like TM. You think I'm going to put on a suit to step outside and smoke??? And yes... I do smoke in the rain. Most nicotine addicts do. Oh... and if I'm running low on cigs, why would I drive to a store right around the corner? I'd smoke one walking there, and another walking home! You'd profile me knowing NOTHING about me. Just because I wore a hoody to cover my head from the rain and cold while walking to the store. How ignorant is that... really?
Originally posted by seabag
Originally posted by SilentKillah
Oh... really... dressed like TM? I may not have a PhD YET, but I am in a Doctorate program in Management and have MS degrees in Program Management and Software Engineering. I've already stated in this thread... on a chilly night, you better BET I'll be standing outside smoking a cigarette dressed JUST like TM. You think I'm going to put on a suit to step outside and smoke??? And yes... I do smoke in the rain. Most nicotine addicts do. Oh... and if I'm running low on cigs, why would I drive to a store right around the corner? I'd smoke one walking there, and another walking home! You'd profile me knowing NOTHING about me. Just because I wore a hoody to cover my head from the rain and cold while walking to the store. How ignorant is that... really?
So you think it's unfair that Middle Eastern looking men get a little extra scrutiny at the airport? You don't see any benefit to profiling? Should they waste the resources checking little old black ladies (or white, Asian, Hispanic, etc) rather than giving a little extra scrutiny to people who fit the profile of a terrorist?
I'm not talking about violating anyone's rights. I'm just saying a little extra attention. That seems unreasonable to you??
Originally posted by seabag
Originally posted by SilentKillah
Oh... really... dressed like TM? I may not have a PhD YET, but I am in a Doctorate program in Management and have MS degrees in Program Management and Software Engineering. I've already stated in this thread... on a chilly night, you better BET I'll be standing outside smoking a cigarette dressed JUST like TM. You think I'm going to put on a suit to step outside and smoke??? And yes... I do smoke in the rain. Most nicotine addicts do. Oh... and if I'm running low on cigs, why would I drive to a store right around the corner? I'd smoke one walking there, and another walking home! You'd profile me knowing NOTHING about me. Just because I wore a hoody to cover my head from the rain and cold while walking to the store. How ignorant is that... really?
So you think it's unfair that Middle Eastern looking men get a little extra scrutiny at the airport? You don't see any benefit to profiling? Should they waste the resources checking little old black ladies (or white, Asian, Hispanic, etc) rather than giving a little extra scrutiny to people who fit the profile of a terrorist?
I'm not talking about violating anyone's rights. I'm just saying a little extra attention. That seems unreasonable to you??
Originally posted by seabag
Originally posted by SilentKillah
Oh... really... dressed like TM? I may not have a PhD YET, but I am in a Doctorate program in Management and have MS degrees in Program Management and Software Engineering. I've already stated in this thread... on a chilly night, you better BET I'll be standing outside smoking a cigarette dressed JUST like TM. You think I'm going to put on a suit to step outside and smoke??? And yes... I do smoke in the rain. Most nicotine addicts do. Oh... and if I'm running low on cigs, why would I drive to a store right around the corner? I'd smoke one walking there, and another walking home! You'd profile me knowing NOTHING about me. Just because I wore a hoody to cover my head from the rain and cold while walking to the store. How ignorant is that... really?
So you think it's unfair that Middle Eastern looking men get a little extra scrutiny at the airport? You don't see any benefit to profiling? Should they waste the resources checking little old black ladies (or white, Asian, Hispanic, etc) rather than giving a little extra scrutiny to people who fit the profile of a terrorist?
I'm not talking about violating anyone's rights. I'm just saying a little extra attention. That seems unreasonable to you??
Originally posted by seabag
Originally posted by SilentKillah
Oh... really... dressed like TM? I may not have a PhD YET, but I am in a Doctorate program in Management and have MS degrees in Program Management and Software Engineering. I've already stated in this thread... on a chilly night, you better BET I'll be standing outside smoking a cigarette dressed JUST like TM. You think I'm going to put on a suit to step outside and smoke??? And yes... I do smoke in the rain. Most nicotine addicts do. Oh... and if I'm running low on cigs, why would I drive to a store right around the corner? I'd smoke one walking there, and another walking home! You'd profile me knowing NOTHING about me. Just because I wore a hoody to cover my head from the rain and cold while walking to the store. How ignorant is that... really?
So you think it's unfair that Middle Eastern looking men get a little extra scrutiny at the airport? You don't see any benefit to profiling? Should they waste the resources checking little old black ladies (or white, Asian, Hispanic, etc) rather than giving a little extra scrutiny to people who fit the profile of a terrorist?
I'm not talking about violating anyone's rights. I'm just saying a little extra attention. That seems unreasonable to you??
Originally posted by seabag
Originally posted by SilentKillah
Oh... really... dressed like TM? I may not have a PhD YET, but I am in a Doctorate program in Management and have MS degrees in Program Management and Software Engineering. I've already stated in this thread... on a chilly night, you better BET I'll be standing outside smoking a cigarette dressed JUST like TM. You think I'm going to put on a suit to step outside and smoke??? And yes... I do smoke in the rain. Most nicotine addicts do. Oh... and if I'm running low on cigs, why would I drive to a store right around the corner? I'd smoke one walking there, and another walking home! You'd profile me knowing NOTHING about me. Just because I wore a hoody to cover my head from the rain and cold while walking to the store. How ignorant is that... really?
So you think it's unfair that Middle Eastern looking men get a little extra scrutiny at the airport? You don't see any benefit to profiling? Should they waste the resources checking little old black ladies (or white, Asian, Hispanic, etc) rather than giving a little extra scrutiny to people who fit the profile of a terrorist?
I'm not talking about violating anyone's rights. I'm just saying a little extra attention. That seems unreasonable to you??
reply to post by charles1952
A true discussion means, in my mind, that people are able to express themselves honestly
I understand the intention Charles, But to lay out how hypocritical you think the situation is because the African American man in your last video has a foul mouth is not helping. I could find a hundred videos of racist slurs hate speech and threats being spewed by white people. And to say it would be torture to listen to Al Sharpton and Jackson is not exactly a dialog opener either.
My point is there may be better ways to start a conversation than saying look how awful some black people act.
The leaders of what used to be a civil rights movement want to talk about everything but the main problem afflicting black people in the United States. That is the breakdown of the black family.
Just 29% of black women over the age of 15 were married in 2010, according to the Census Bureau’s comprehensive Current Population Survey. That compares to 54% of white women. At all ages, black women were about half as likely to be married as white women. That is an astonishing number.
The percentage of out-of-wedlock births has risen from 18% in 1980 to 40% in 2010. 29% of white births were non-marital, against 73% for black births. That’s nearly three-quarters of all black births.
Collateral Costs details the concentration of incarceration among men, the young, the uneducated and African Americans. One in 87 working-aged white men is in prison or jail compared with 1 in 36 Hispanic men and 1 in 12 African American men. Today, more African American men aged 20 to 34 without a high school diploma or GED are behind bars (37 percent) than are employed (26 percent).
The report also shows more than 2.7 million minor children now have a parent behind bars, or 1 in every 28. For African American children the number is 1 in 9, a rate that has more than quadrupled in the past 25 years.
The worst oppressors of young black men are older black men who abandon their children. And the second-worst oppressors of young black men are other young black men. 94% of black murder victims are killed by blacks. The accelerating decline of the black family portends a much worse situation in the future.
Why have civil rights organizations and black clergy wagered their reputations on the Zimmerman case? It is hard to avoid the conclusion that the issues that really concern African-Americans simply are too painful to discuss. Five years after the ultimate boost to self-esteem — the election of the first black president — things are getting worse faster. If black leaders — from Barack Obama and Eric Holder on down — can’t talk about the real problems, the prospects for the future are frightening indeed.
Originally posted by seabag
Originally posted by SilentKillah
Oh... really... dressed like TM? I may not have a PhD YET, but I am in a Doctorate program in Management and have MS degrees in Program Management and Software Engineering. I've already stated in this thread... on a chilly night, you better BET I'll be standing outside smoking a cigarette dressed JUST like TM. You think I'm going to put on a suit to step outside and smoke??? And yes... I do smoke in the rain. Most nicotine addicts do. Oh... and if I'm running low on cigs, why would I drive to a store right around the corner? I'd smoke one walking there, and another walking home! You'd profile me knowing NOTHING about me. Just because I wore a hoody to cover my head from the rain and cold while walking to the store. How ignorant is that... really?
So you think it's unfair that Middle Eastern looking men get a little extra scrutiny at the airport? You don't see any benefit to profiling? Should they waste the resources checking little old black ladies (or white, Asian, Hispanic, etc) rather than giving a little extra scrutiny to people who fit the profile of a terrorist?
I'm not talking about violating anyone's rights. I'm just saying a little extra attention. That seems unreasonable to you??
Originally posted by littled16
reply to post by charles1952
Don't feel bad Charles! I wouldn't want to listen to any long winded speeches by Jackson or Sharpton either! Just the tones and inflections they both use when speech making (Sunday morning preacher doing an overtime sermon) drives me batty. Jackson has used that tone so often over the years that it has become his permanent speech pattern. I liked it much better when he used to speak in a more normal voice.
Originally posted by charles1952
I don't know whether this is going off-topic, but a poster who is no longer with us asked what I would like the discussion to be about. I didn't have a great answer, but I think I stumbled across one a few moments ago.
The leaders of what used to be a civil rights movement want to talk about everything but the main problem afflicting black people in the United States. That is the breakdown of the black family.
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pjmedia.com...
I don't think this problem is caused by race as much as by culture, but regardless, I would think we could all agree that there should be fewer out-of wedlock births, more two parent families, more people with High School diplomas, and fewer behind bars.
That's a discussion Blacks and Whites should be able to have without trying to introduce race flaming.
With respect,
Charles1952