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Originally posted by Tiger5
Sadly the simple fact is despit ehis obvious faults which I would say are a bigotted view of black young men and his obvious lies Zimmerman was tried and found guilty. Our system of justice can have flaws but it is the best we have until we have the mind reading machine (not the polygraph).
Originally posted by cbaskins
I am legally blind and have taken the bus and walked everywere my whole life. It would have been an injustice if George was convicted of murder, but I agree totally with a manslaughter verdict. Going back to being a full time pedestrian, when someone gets out of a car it is there fault. Once a guy thought that I was staring at him when he was in a car driving by, but I only have 45 percent of my vision left, and I tried to explain that to him. With him being a young punk and beginning to get out of his car, I began to attack him in order to get the upper hand, and not to mention I was scared. Moral of the story is, stay in the car or get delt with. Its the law! SF
Originally posted by Tiger5
Sadly the simple fact is despit ehis obvious faults which I would say are a bigotted view of black young men and his obvious lies Zimmerman was tried and found guilty. Our system of justice can have flaws but it is the best we have until we have the mind reading machine (not the polygraph).
Originally posted by Deetermined Did you watch or read about the trial? Tell me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it suggested that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman from behind while he was on the phone with 911 and heading back to his vehicle? Didn't this line up with what was recorded on the 911 call?
No...Zimmerman has made many claims, but that is not one of them and he wasn't on the phone with 911 when the fight broke out. Zimmerman claims he didn't know the main street in his community and that he approached TM to ask the street name. He also claim Trayvon appeared out of nowhere...or jumped out of the bushes...or simply appeared from the darkness.
Zimmerman claims he didn't know the main street in his community and that he approached TM to ask the street name
TM girlfriend was on the phone with him and cell records prove it. Her testimony is that he did not make it home.
TM girlfriend was on the phone with him and cell records prove it,
Her testimony is that he did not make it home.
the red square where the fight started.
the black rectangle is GZ truck.
the green rectangle is where TM was staying.
blue dash line is the street to the back entrance.
yellow dash lines are four ways TM could have made it home.
in the 911 call GZ says he is coming to check me out, then a sort time later he's running, dispatcher says which way, GZ says towards the back entrance. he also says the same thing in the reenactment but gives more details.
jeantel stated that TM told her he was near the area of his daddy house. lets just leave the reenactment out for now and go with the 911 call, many people say that he is lying in the reenactment, i don't think that people think he is in the 911 call, if i'm wrong please pardon me.. we'll also jeantel statement.
so if you look at the map you see that if TM went towards the back entrance, the house he was staying in is the second town house on the corner of the side walk. , or going around to the next street and going in the front. you can see that there are cut throughs that he could have taken to get to the back or the front.
we know he was there by his daddy house, jeantel said he told her so. i count four.
so he had many different avenues to escape the "creepy a@@ cracker"
so if he was so scared of the "creepy a@@ cracker" why go back to the T? why didn't he go inside? he had lost GZ, jeantel said he told her so. if he was scared, why not call 911 from inside the house where GZ couldn't see him?
did he want to see if GZ was still parked there? did he feel played by GZ? did he see GZ walk by the T?
just why did he go back? i think we all know why, he wanted to whip him some "creepy a22 cracker" a@@!
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Originally posted by LionOfGOD
To hell with Trayvon and to hell with Zimmerman,
the guy is dead, and the other guy walks. Big deal.
ATS has turned into a sickening tabloid where people obsessed
with social pornography can jerk each other off.
Oh yeah, and to anyone reading this,
to hell with you too.
Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
oh and here is a little map i made in the zimmerman trial thread. i have edited part of the post but will provide the link to it.
So...looking at the map, I would be curious to know which entrance is closest to the store Trayvon went for his skittles?
Originally posted by bbracken677
Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
oh and here is a little map i made in the zimmerman trial thread. i have edited part of the post but will provide the link to it.
So...looking at the map, I would be curious to know which entrance is closest to the store Trayvon went for his skittles?
Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity
So, what was the legal issue of Zimmerman following Trayvon? Did the prosecutor object to the questions? So, what is the truth about Zimmerman's actions leading up to Trayvon's attacking him?
Originally posted by Willtell
I started the thread but at this time will apologize to anyone that I wrote anything they deemed offensive.
In the trenches of verbal battle sometimes I go too far
Forgive me!
goodnight
Originally posted by totallackey
Originally posted by Willtell
I started the thread but at this time will apologize to anyone that I wrote anything they deemed offensive.
In the trenches of verbal battle sometimes I go too far
Forgive me!
goodnight
Apologize my left foot...
There can be no apology for the utter lack of mental effort placed in your OP and follow up responses to any member who has taken the time to post here in this SKUNK WORK.
In order for there to be a battle of any sort, one must be armed with appropriate tools. In this case, you should be armed with facts, discernment, and critical thinking skills.
In the formulation of this OP and the follow up responses, I can find no evidence of tools.
This is not a personal attack. This is simply an analysis of the writing in this thread. Perhaps other writings of yours have demonstrated the presence of these tools.
Originally posted by Willtell
My apology was not for the truth of my op. It is irrefutable. It’s just that people like you I have unfortunately called an idiot because of your myopic views.
That I will apologize for not the facts of the op.
Also, I didnt originally put this in the skunk works the people here on ATS moved it here.edit on 17-7-2013 by Willtell because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by okyouwin
It amazes me when reading what some people think are facts in this case. It appears some here believe that there are witnesses that saw the whole thing and are certain about what happened. That simply is not true. There are only two people who know what happened that night and one of them is dead.
Here are two facts. Zimmerman shot and killed Martin. Martin was unarmed.
Someone suggests that Zimmerman was doing his job. This is not true. I repeat this is not true. As a neighborhood watch volunteer he is to report any suspicious activity to the police.
That is all Zimmerman is not trained to pursue or question anyone relating to their presence in the neighborhood. This lack of training is woefully evident in the way he conducted himself that night. He should never have acted in anyway to contact or confront Martin.
And should any contact be inadvertently made, Zimmerman should have sated his purpose and identified himself as a watch volunteer.
Zimmerman's actions were reckless and full of false bravado.
I ask anyone here to place themselves in Martin's position.
And just to add a little spice to the scenario, let's say the person in the car was a black man. I'm just guessing in this case the woman juror who is doing all the talking on television now, the one who can't understand why Martin would be threatened, would be soiling her underwear.
This whole event was a tragic situation, and I believe is an example of why there should be greater controls on just who should be allowed to carry a gun.
And here's a tip folks if you ever find you want kill someone, make sure they are dead, then scratch the back of you head just enough to make it bleed and they maybe bonk yourself in the nose just enough to get a little blood flowing.
Zimmerman was a wussy who got himself into a situation he couldn't handle and took the cowards way out and shot an unarmed man. End of story.