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Why is Joshua Chellew less important than Trayvon Martin?

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posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 11:04 AM
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You are an extremely racist person. All you care about is the fact that TM was black. No other facts of the case matter to you. Everyone has presented tons of information showing the jury was right, the fbi were right, and that Zimmerman is innocent of murder. If all you seek is racism, that is all you will ever find.




posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by Christian Voice
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You are an extremely racist person. All you care about is the fact that TM was black. No other facts of the case matter to you. Everyone has presented tons of information showing the jury was right, the fbi were right, and that Zimmerman is innocent of murder. If all you seek is racism, that is all you will ever find.


What rubbish. It isn't racist to say that white people get an easier time of it under the law than black people in Florida - it's a statement of fact, supportable by evidence.

I actually don't think, fractionally, that Zimmerman should have been found guilty. But what is incontestable is that the case takes place against a backdrop of a country that hasn't laid to rest its racial demons, and to say that's just the fault of whining blacks is specious. Race played a part in exonerating Zimmerman, and in the flurry of attempts to caricature Martin and his family. It may or may not have played a part in Zimmerman's decisions on the night (which by the way the FBI have not definitively ruled out).

This is the situation as I understand it. You on the other hand are talking disgustedly about gangstas and gold teeth, hoods and a lack of respect. You sound like your attitudes come from 1950 and you're desperate to incriminate a dead boy. And I'm the racist?



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by IAMTAT

ENTIRE ARTICLE:
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I find those guys really sad. Anything they can get on a dead kid they immediately twist to be as relevant to drug use or criminality as they can.

Obviously Martin used drank and weed, but "Perhaps he wasn't in class BECAUSE HE WAS SELLING DRUGS!!!?" is such a stretch. And the "large amount of cash" looks like about twenty quid.

All that evidence just shows me he was a slightly dodgy teenager, into a bit of weed and in fact he looks like a total neophyte wrt to lean. But any shred of a mention of money or drugs suddenly turns him into John Gotti in their eyes. it's pretty pathetic.



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 03:35 PM
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All lives are precious. All life lost is tragic. All injustice should provoke outrage and passion. Personally I don't believe in race. I see only different circumstances masquerading as races. I acknowledge one race: human. I acknowledge and respect different heritages, but our shared human heritage should take precedence in my opinion. I know that isn't always a popular view. So be it.

Peace.
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posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 04:03 PM
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It seems pretty obvious why this and cases like this dont get as much attention as the Zimmerman trial. These people are going to be convicted of the crime they committed, Zimmerman is walking free. The Zimmerman trial was a debate into a ridiculously outdated law while crimes like this one, though tragic, are just a part of scummy society.



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 08:13 PM
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the sad truth is that black racists were allowed to rise to levels of prominence because of the sins of white racists of the past.

They're untouchables. Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, Holder, etc

They can't be touched because they're black. They're racist and therefore pass on their agenda to the idiot masses.

Why is Joshua Chellew less important? Because he doesn't further the agenda of a black racist in position of power.

It really does boil down to just that.



posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 02:29 AM
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The mugshot shown for Chellew was for a drunk driving arrest. It's possible that the Atlanta PD are trying to obscure what is essentially a black-on-white racial attack.



posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by kimish
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Things like this are more frequent than we'd like to believe and they happen more than anyone is willing to acknowledge.

Someone should flood Sharptons and Jacksons mail with cases like this asking where they are.


I agree where is ther eidea of justice???I believe that Sharpton and jackson now make good television and are in the rent-a-quote industry. my sumpathy goes out to the Kid's Family. It must be terrible for a parent to bury a child.

What these cretins did not realise is given the racist sentiments held by some vocal elements in white America they have played into the enemies hands completely....

Perhaps the ringleader is of below average IQ.

I feel that the travyon case was used to debate stand your ground law which is part of the gun control debate
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posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 04:31 AM
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There's a lot of things not actually known when it comes to debates about zimmerman, and by known I mean who 100% knows anything about the case? Unless they were there, knew zimmermans and treyvons every thought, you really can't.

What I DO know is that the media controls things the way they see fit, there's always an agenda, there's always what they want us to see, they control what we see, what we don't ever hear about.



posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 04:25 PM
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Couldn't agree with you more. People should focus more on the justice factor rather than the race factor. There are many brutal crimes committed by every single race in this country. Stop harping on certain colors and question why these things are happening and what can be done to improve them.



posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by Spider879
No I don't he was tailing the guy in the dark Trayvon was on his way home ,the prosecution could not establish a case beyond reasonable doubt,I will leave it at that it is what it is..I am not sure the question I was asked but not answered.

I am not violence prone,I never started one fight in my life but I did take up martial arts since I was a kid and I am fairly big even as a kid, given my mind set I would confront my stalker as I am a fight guy rather than a flight guy
chances are I would have been killed but not from a bullet in the back.


On his way home? Not likely, given the evidence. Note the time he was at the store, and the time he was first seen by Mr. Zimmerman. The distance is only about .6 miles. That's a SHORT walk. Even in rain and snow, my teen could walk from our house, to the store, shop, and return, in an hour or less, and that store is 1.5 miles from where we live. Almost triple the distance. So, "on his way home" doesn't fit the facts.

If you were to attack a person for simply "following" you, then you would be guilty of a crime. Walking the same direction as another person, even watching them, is legal, but assault isn't.


Originally posted by JuniorDisco
The irony is that this case actually supports the argument of those who got worked up about Martin.

- Martin case: black victim, white assailant (or Latin if you like) - no arrest, victim not even identified

- Chellew case: white victim, black assailants - immediate arrest, no bail.

This is precisely what people got annoyed about with regard to the Martin situation! Well done OP, you have inadvertently described exactly the problem.


No, in the Martin/Zimmerman case, the victim was Zimmerman. Assaulted, injured, and alive only because he exercised his rights.



posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by DZAG Wright
What other use did the candy and juice have? "Lean" as you are probably referring to requires a much more important ingredient which I doubt Trayvon had access to. And besides Lean is a Texas drug, not so much Florida.

You see, other out of touch people such as yourselves are so far off base that you allowed a guilty man to go free.

You're so ignorant, you believe trace amounts of weed in his system would be observable through his behavior...LOL..people like you sit and watch tv and read these articles, but you haven't experience life. You make yourselves appear as clowns.

The evidence and witnesses also support that Trayvon was defending himself...


From his own online posts, it's known that he used the stuff, and was looking for more of the third ingredient. Evidence indicates that he was using this from the previous year, coinciding with his behavior at school. So, whether this is more common in Texas or not isn't relevant.

Well, at least you used the correct "you're". Now, work on reading comprehension. I stated that there was some in his system. I also said that the other substance can cause behavioral changes, as can long-term use of "weed". I KNOW people that have used the stuff. One is a close relative, and yes, it most certainly does affect behavior over time. The other is far more dangerous. I actually watch VERY little television news, of any variety. I also have decades of experience, relationships, and learning to depend on. Ad hominem attacks don't further your argument.



posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by IAMTAT

What we have here is a prime example of the liberal media's 'racial motivation' double-standard in full swing!


You seriously think this is a Left versus Right thing and not a business thing? This is not only a liberal media issue its Main Stream Media Issue. Both sides exploit raci$m equally because it sells ads.

It doesn't matter which angle the left takes or the right takes, in the end they are using racial tensions to sell you advertisement.

Foxnews has covered the Zimmerman trial plenty and its not uncommon for the so called Rev Al Sharpton to appear as a guest on FOX news.


Tension, exploitation, violence,lies, and sex sells.





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posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes

Originally posted by DZAG Wright
What other use did the candy and juice have? "Lean" as you are probably referring to requires a much more important ingredient which I doubt Trayvon had access to. And besides Lean is a Texas drug, not so much Florida.

You see, other out of touch people such as yourselves are so far off base that you allowed a guilty man to go free.

You're so ignorant, you believe trace amounts of weed in his system would be observable through his behavior...LOL..people like you sit and watch tv and read these articles, but you haven't experience life. You make yourselves appear as clowns.

The evidence and witnesses also support that Trayvon was defending himself...


From his own online posts, it's known that he used the stuff, and was looking for more of the third ingredient. Evidence indicates that he was using this from the previous year, coinciding with his behavior at school. So, whether this is more common in Texas or not isn't relevant.

Well, at least you used the correct "you're". Now, work on reading comprehension. I stated that there was some in his system. I also said that the other substance can cause behavioral changes, as can long-term use of "weed". I KNOW people that have used the stuff. One is a close relative, and yes, it most certainly does affect behavior over time. The other is far more dangerous. I actually watch VERY little television news, of any variety. I also have decades of experience, relationships, and learning to depend on. Ad hominem attacks don't further your argument.




Your lack of knowledge shows very simply, by your belief weed and lean would cause Trayvon to attack George. If you had real knowledge you would know that if Trayvon was indeed abusing weed and lean he would have been too lethargic to attack a butterfly.

As I said....people talking who know not what they are talking about.



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 03:27 AM
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Might sound crazy but I think there is a conspiracy around this. There are many many race related attacks we don't hear about. America's media seems very controlled now. It's possible that Obama wanted it to be front page to show there is still racism.



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 04:56 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
The four assailants were arrested immediately. Maybe that's why.


Also, it seems it was gang related.



According to the warrant, Chellew flashed blue colors and claimed allegiance to the “Crips” street gang. Three of the suspects were dressed in red, the colors affiliated with the “Crips” longtime rival, the “Bloods.” The exchange was captured on the station’s surveillance cameras.


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Oh gee that makes sense. A 36 year old man that looks nothing like a Wigger was in a gang. Cute. Very cute.



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by iamusic

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
The four assailants were arrested immediately. Maybe that's why.


Also, it seems it was gang related.



According to the warrant, Chellew flashed blue colors and claimed allegiance to the “Crips” street gang. Three of the suspects were dressed in red, the colors affiliated with the “Crips” longtime rival, the “Bloods.” The exchange was captured on the station’s surveillance cameras.


Source


Oh gee that makes sense. A 36 year old man that looks nothing like a Wigger was in a gang. Cute. Very cute.


I couldn't edit my post, but maybe considering these were his friends.



The guy on the driver's side on the car has a RIP tattoo of some guy with either a bandanna on or a ski hat. Usually ordinary, everyday citizens don't get tattoos like this so it could be the case.
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posted on Jul, 21 2013 @ 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Your lack of knowledge shows very simply, by your belief weed and lean would cause Trayvon to attack George. If you had real knowledge you would know that if Trayvon was indeed abusing weed and lean he would have been too lethargic to attack a butterfly.

As I said....people talking who know not what they are talking about.


Sources for your claims? No one stated he was high at the time, only that the usage could, and would affect his behavior. This is proven. You have no sources, no evidence, to support your claims, so pretending that others don't know what they are talking about isn't valid.



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes


No, in the Martin/Zimmerman case, the victim was Zimmerman. Assaulted, injured, and alive only because he exercised his rights.


Almost all of what you've written there is not established fact. Just your opinion. And tenuous at that.

Anyway, it's irrelevant. The context of the OP is designed to imply that people only got worked up about the Martin case because of race. This is untrue - people got worked up because Zimmerman wasn't charged and the police investigation seemed cursory to the point of negligence. They surmised that there might be a racial background to this and to Z's actions but the key point that made this news was his release.

Since all the (black) perpetrators are in prison already with no bail in the Chellew case, it actually supports rather than diminishes the notion that Zimmerman got favourable treatment because of his colour and that of the victim.



posted on Jul, 23 2013 @ 02:35 PM
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Weed and lean effects are different for everyone and yes it does make you drowsy but I have seen the effect of those drugs first hand. My friend who had a problem with lean would become aggressive, paranoid, angry, and developed a short temper when he didn't have those drugs or they started wearing off and my friend wasn't like that before his addiction. I thought when Martin was shot he wasn't high on promethazine and codeine but I could be wrong.



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