reply to post by wasaka
The only point I was hoping to make with you is that
this idea "the way" is Eastern thinking and "the truth"
is Western thinking, is a flawed because Jesus was
himself an Eastern teacher like Buddha was. At that
time there really was no Western culture like what
we have today. That came with the merger of the
Greek/Stoic ideas of God and the Roman Catholic
ideas of sin, Satan and hell.
Jesus message was that HE was the 'way'. HE was the 'truth'. In saying this, He was showing two things. Life is not about exoteric dogma or
esoteric spiritualism. Life is living and living is not our wickedness or self-righteousness. The narrow path is neither of these. Righteousness is
love for others with no expectation of return. No path we walk will lead us to truth. It was not our rules or philosophies. No truth can be gained
by seeing or hearing, but only by doing.
By knowing what I just sowed in the paragraph above, I can then outline this for you by the fault of the people Jesus was speaking to.
In the East, Buddha claimed that renunciation of our self is the act of escaping suffering. Jesus showed that suffering was the point. I can
illustrate this easily. Smoking is taking a reward that leads to a debt. In this case, we are not suffering first, but last. Buddha would tell you
to renounce smoking. I would agree. If we reverse this, we can go to the Gym and work out. This gives us increased health because we suffer for
what we gain. In this case, Buddha would tell you to avoid suffering. Renounce the desire for better health. Again, just a generalization so don't
come back and tell me that Buddha was healthy for other reasons. I get that. There is a broader point here.
Jesus came to give a gift to mankind. To give that gift, He willingly suffered every step working for others and then giving it away. He said, if
you want to follow him, sell everything and take up the cross. The cross is the ultimate suffering that could have happened. By doing this, he made
the point clear. HE is the way and suffering on purpose develops rewards. Why? You cannot give a gift apart from suffering the work to earn what
you give. Work a job and a paycheck comes. Buddha walked away from this responsibility with his own family. Admittedly, he could. They were
wealthy. Still, not the point.
With Truth, philosophy leads to the idea that man can create Utopia. If only we formulate the right laws and engage enough cameras and the strongest
military, we can make our world perfect. Truth wishes to find this utopia by the reasoning of our own linear thinking. Again, who did Jesus condemn?
Tax collectors, moneychangers, high priests and experts in the law. Lawyers, bankers, religious leaders and government scam artists. What did HE
say? HE was the truth. Aleph Mem Tav is Truth. What is LIFE?
Life comes from family. A strong family is one that abides in Truth. A strong nation is one that has strong families. Love is the point and we must
abide in God's will only. What is God's will. Love and Giving. No law is necessary if we love others as ourselves. Unity among the multiplicity of
the living is this very concept.
I beg to differ with you. Jesus said what he meant and meant what he said. He was implying nothing. He was showing that our own philosophies are
vain. There is only ONE way and there can only be one.
edit on 18-7-2013 by EnochWasRight because: (no reason given)