John Kerry a member of Skull and Bones

Now that the next president of either party will be a Bones it just shows who's pulling the strings behind the scenes

DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE

Since 1873, the Global Elite Has Held Secret Meetings in the Ancient Redwood Forest of Northern California. Members of the so-called "Bohemian Club" Include Former Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. The Bush Family Maintains a Strong Involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove, Members of This All-Male "Club" Don Red, Black and Silver Robes and Conduct an Occult Ritual Wherein They Worship a Giant Stone Owl, Sacrificing a Human Being in Effigy to What They Call the "Great Owl of Bohemia."

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The "Great Owl" is another illuminati symbol, that indicates knowledge. Similar to the pyramid with capstone removed (the all-seeing eye on the back of our dollar bill).

Even though the Illuminati ceased to exist as an organization in the 1790's, the organization's leaders kept the conspiracy alive, and continued working towards their goal of a one world socialist government. Since then, as you have read, various organizations have been established to perpetuate these goals, but the term "Illuminati" continues to be used as the name for the engineers of this Master Conspiracy, since it is more recognizable than the various secret, and little known organizations that are carrying out this Satanic plot. It is believed, that at the pinnacle of the Illuminati, is a group of nine men, who, for the most part are the descendants of the original Illuminati conspirators. It has been reported that they met on June 12, 1952 in France, at the Castle of Arginy (which is where Hugues de Paynes founded the Knights Templar in 1118), under the name "Order of the Temple," to set their final plans in motion for the establishment of a one-world government; also on March 21, 1981, in Switzerland, in a mansion once owned by the Order of the Knights of Malta; then again in France, 1984, as the "International Order of Chivalry, Solar Tradition."

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1790 is an interesting year- it was the same year that Adam Smith published "The Theory of Moral Sentiments". This coming from the same man who provided the base for modern economics. His moral theory was grounded in the observation that what is MORAL is that which is most USEFUL for the population. Certainly justifies any illuminati actions, doesn't it?

LAKE PLACID, N.Y. (AP) - Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, lashing out at his chief rival for the hearts of New Hampshire's Democratic primary voters, charged Saturday that Sen. John Kerry was becoming a copycat.
"I appreciate Sen. Kerry saying we don't need Bush Lite, and we don't," Dean told about 1,000 people attending a forum on rural issues in Lake Placid. "But, Sen. Kerry, we don't want Dean Lite, either."

Early in the campaign for the Democratic nomination to run against President Bush next year, the liberal Dean often introduced himself as representing "the Democratic wing of the Democratic party."

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I dont trust this country or anyther. All the elections thes past 12 years i think have been riged. i wouldnt doud it

Kissing cousins...It didn't matter to either of them who would have won, they were both members of Skull and Bones and both are family.

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Why did DR get banned? I like the direction of this thread. What happened?



[edit on 21-5-2005 by smallpeeps]

I think he's in Skull and Bones.

Wasn't Roosevelt in Wolf's Head at Yale?

His name is in the book:
America's Secret Establishment - The Order of Skull & Bones

www.lulu.com...

Almost at the end of the book, see the page with the listing of the
year 1966

Thanks so much looks like an interesting book...

I appreciate the help!

Originally posted by Richardfromoxford
Thanks so much looks like an interesting book...

I appreciate the help!

And finally, some interesting characters:
Edward Roland Noel Harriman (The Order '17) and
Sheldon Prescott Bush (The Order '17),
the father of President George Herbert Walker Bush (The Order '49), and
grandfather of President George Walker Bush (The Order '68).

Originally posted by hawk123
His name is in the book:
America's Secret Establishment - The Order of Skull & Bones

There is no need to rely on a list in a book.

Both, John Kerry and George W. Bush admitted on "Meet the Press" that they are members. (This is relevant again because of Kerry's nomination to the Secretary of State position. This has implication not only about himself but also about Obama's true motivations for his actions. It further underlines that the difference between the two parties is purely like a role play for the pursuit of the same goal - which is not the American people).

Exposing there secret allegiance in such a public manner may have been unforgivable because the host, Tim Russert, later died of a sudden heart attack.

Incidentally, the US government has a gun that induces a heart attack, without leaving any trace of poison.

Other journalists that died of sudden heart attacks were Mark Pittman and Andrew Breitbart, both after disclosing embarrassing secrets about the government and still continuing with their success.
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Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Exposing there secret allegiance in such a public manner may have been unforgivable because the host, Tim Russert, later died of a sudden heart attack.

So he died of a heart attack four years after the interview, and you're trying to call it a conspiracy?

Not to mention the fact that he had a long history of coronary artery disease?

reply to post by JoshNorton

Like with any conspiracy I cannot assert that there is one, I can only point to coincidences (?) that suggest that there may be one. The more you discover the more likely you are on the right track.

"Russert's longtime friend and physician, Dr. Michael Newman, said that his asymptomatic coronary artery disease had been controlled with medication and exercise, and that he had performed well on a stress test in late April." Source: Wikipedia. Do you have any statistics on how many journalists age 58 or less die of heart attack in the US? (Btw, if there is a conspiracy, they are not stupid and use it on a 23 year old, a 23 year old would more likely commit "suicide", such as 9/11 witnesses)

It is one thing for believers in the liberal dogma when their candidate (the one who sends “thrill going up” the leg of Chris Mathews) is being accused by Hannity-and-the-like (that is a quasi-endorsement). But being exposed by a liberal on NBC is far worse.

Not all the names of members of secret societies are known to the public. Obama may be one of them. If he is, he would have good reason to be afraid that Russert would expose it, especially after asking him questions like what you see below. It is true that I cannot assert Obama is a member, and if he was, that would not disqualify him in the eyes of many Americans. But Obama sealed all his records on his first day in office. Clearly, he has something to hide. If it is not related to his eligibility, then what else is there?

Notice that Russert died less than 6 weeks after this interview. This was the point at which Obama became the likely nominee. What a disaster for Democrats if, after his nomination, ANOTHER news came out that would question his patriotism? June is 5 months before the election – coincidence?

Mark Pittman November: 2009 (did you read what happened to his law suit against the Federal Reserve?) – coincidence?

Andrew Breitbart: March 2012 (shortly before the beginning of the re-election campaign) – coincidence?

Portions of an interview of Obama with Tim Russert on May 4, 2008 (May 7, 1950 – June 13, 2008)

MR. RUSSERT: On Friday you said, "It's been a rough couple of weeks." An understatement. What has the controversy over Reverend Jeremiah Wright done to your campaign?
R: What is confusing to some people is why it took so long. This is what you said back in March in Philadelphia. Let's watch.
R: And yet, less than five weeks later, you have said something much different. Let's watch that.
R: What happened in those five weeks? Because you already knew, prior to the March speech, that he had suggested the U.S. government created the AIDS virus; you knew he went to Libya with Louis Farrakhan; you knew about his hate speech on September 11th, about the chickens coming home to roost and other things. What did you learn in those five weeks that you didn't know in March?
R: The critics have said he (Rev. Wright) can attack the United States of America, he can do all sorts of things that divide the country, but only when he made it politically uncomfortable for you did you finally separate himself from him.
R: When you announced your candidacy back in February of '07 in Springfield, the same place Abraham Lincoln announced his candidacy … (Rev. Wright) said that one of the essential facts about the U.S. is, "We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God." Now, that is so contrary to a speech I heard you gave yesterday about one nation, one people.
R: So you knew in '07 "This guy's a problem. I have to keep him out of the spotlight involving my campaign." SEN. OBAMA: Right. Sure.
R: You're new to the national political scene. Is it fair for people to raise questions about your judgment for misjudging Reverend Wright?
R: ...and they talk about the flag pin and about your wife Michelle's comment about being proud for the first time in her adult life as an American, and talk about Reverend Wright saying, "God damn America," and talk about standing at the national anthem at the steak fry and not putting your hand over your heart, all those things, challenging your patriotism...
R: "How is he (Obama) going to respond? How is he going to defend or define his patriotism?" SEN. OBAMA: Right. R: What's the answer?
R: The National Journal says that in 26 of the 29 contests you've been involved in you have lost white voters who do not have college degrees. How do you connect with them? What's wrong?

Hitler said "What luck for the rulers that people do not think." Translation: Do not believe autopsy results they are easy to manipulate.

originally posted by: thesebmaister
I dont trust this country or anyther. All the elections thes past 12 years i think have been riged. i wouldnt doud it

That's the beauty of democracy. Manipulate the votes, or better yet, own a candidate in the two parties most likely to win. Then, after 4 years, you can remove the curtain stained in blood and # and erect a new one. Suddenly everything is clean again. The sins of the previous administration are in the past. The "new" regime is going to do a better job. The hidden agenda continues on unhindered.

America, what a beautiful idea it was... It died quite some time ago. Your forefathers told you to be vigilant and you didn't #ing listen.