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reply posted on 20-5-2003 @ 11:43 PM by dragonrider
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Don't mistake your witty use of the letter K for being intelligent, dragon. We both know what you are behind the keyboard. Posted by Kai
Reagea
And what would that be?
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reply posted on 21-5-2003 @ 09:47 PM by MKULTRA
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"There is evidence that such experiences were precipitated by early (as early as the 1930s) psychotropic drugs and electroshock/stim neural implants
in women to induce a trance state to make them more "user friendly". Reportedly, this was the very early conception of what was later developed into
MKUltra."
That's correct, they would often use an early predecessor of the hallucinogenic drug, LSD. In fact, early MK-ULTRA experiments involved the filming
of these LSD-induced sex parties. They would send out prostitutes to drug the men, unknowingly. They would then bring them back to the safe-house,
which would be set up like a normal home. They would be videotaped. Unfortunately the men didn' t know what was happening due to their LSD-induced
psychosis. And they didn't know they were drugged, either- so the reaction would be MUCH more severe. Allegedly one of the men committed suicide
during the experiment.
"Being the all powerful Cabal, they get away with it too."
Yes, the illuminati/cabal believe that they are entitled to get away with it, as they are above us in terms of blood purity. Don't forget that the
entire base of Nazi philosophy goes right back to maintaining those pure bloodlines. Regarding S&B and Nazi connection, I believe it was the S & B
members who sought to cover-up all of the esoteric knowledge that the Nazi's had discovered. They did this cover-up by employing the scientists who
were trying to apply the knowledge. And thus, we have a huge WAVE of "ufo" sightings starting in 1957 with Kenneth Arnold in the United States.
Don't forget that it is said the Nazi's had "ufo-type" craft in their arsenal. Numerous reports from WWII pilots, who saw them, called the craft
"foo fighters".
The cabal/illuminati, historically, always makes these types of moves. As power is shifted in one area, it increases in another.
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reply posted on 22-5-2003 @ 07:59 PM by dragonrider
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That's correct, they would often use an early predecessor of the hallucinogenic drug, LSD. In fact, early MK-ULTRA experiments involved the
filming of these LSD-induced sex parties. They would send out prostitutes to drug the men, unknowingly. They would then bring them back to the
safe-house, which would be set up like a normal home. They would be videotaped. Unfortunately the men didn' t know what was happening due to their
LSD-induced psychosis. And they didn't know they were drugged, either- so the reaction would be MUCH more severe. Allegedly one of the men committed
suicide during the experiment. Posted by MKUltra
Absolutely correct.
After about the 1950s, the newly formed CIA, using thier newly imported Nazi/Gestapo/SS crew with fresh information gained from the likes of Dr.
Mengele and his horrific research experiments on concentration camp prisoners, they began working on a new tact: electromagnetic stimulation and
manipulation of the brain.
Apparently, some experiments of this type had been carried out as early as the 1930s, and some of this information likely was the inspiration for some
of the more gruesome experiments conducted by the Nazis.
It was soon learned that electric stimulation of various parts of the brain via implanted electrodes allowed control of various body functions and
brain activity. Further research found that the brain recieved and reacted to electromagnetic energy on extremely low wavelengths. Experiments were
conducted and found that using specifically built transmitting equipment, it was possible to transmit a signal to the human brain and simulate
(internally to the victim) visual and audio sensations.
These experiments led to the creation of the myth of alien/government mind control and the attempt by some people to use tinfoil hats to block
government signals. Most of these people were ruled as insane (undoubtedly, such experiments rendered these people with brain damage, therefore making
them insane).
There is a high likelihood that these people were not crazy, and thier experiences may well have been true!!!
The uses for this kind of technology (at the time limited to individual targets), aside from mental manipulation of hapless women for sexual purposes,
was the creation of "Manchurian Candidates", unsuspecting people living normal lives who at a moments notice could become a terrorist or assassin,
as the need warranted.
There are rumors of "Project Open Eye", which was just as described above, a set of preprogrammed operators living in normal society waiting for an
initiation signal to go on a rampage to destroy either a general target or a specific target for assassination.
Remember the "Texas 7" that escaped from the Connolly Federal Prison in South Texas, right before/during the 2000 election? They escaped as a group,
heavily armed, taking down a sporting goods store, procuring even more armaments. Now, if a group breaks prison in south Texas, what is the logical
course of action? Split up and make it across the border very quickly. What did they do? They stayed together as a group and moved northward
away from the border. All indications were that they were very dangerous and would be extremely difficult to capture.
What happened? All but one (who committed suicide) surrendered without a shot.
My interpretation is that this group was programmed while in federal prison as an assassin squad, and were "released" as a potential backup plan...
when the election was finally resolved, they were caught with no problems at all.
The next generation of all this research into brain affecting technology lays in Gakona Alaska and underground in Colorado, with project HAARP. HAARP
is known to operate in the frequency range required for such brain affecting transmissions, and has done so in the past. The ultimate goal.... that is
the question....
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reply posted on 24-5-2003 @ 12:24 AM by MKULTRA
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"It was soon learned that electric stimulation of various parts of the brain via implanted electrodes allowed control of various body functions and
brain activity. Further research found that the brain recieved and reacted to electromagnetic energy on extremely low wavelengths. Experiments were
conducted and found that using specifically built transmitting equipment, it was possible to transmit a signal to the human brain and simulate
(internally to the victim) visual and audio sensations."
I have personally seen a working example that functions perfectly in norwegian lab rats. You can basically drive 10 of these guys around the
building's hallways with no problem at all. I would not be surprised that such research began in the early 30's, considering that Moniz first
practiced the lobotomy in 1934. This was a great time in the history of psychiatry, because several new advances were being made in the treatment of
mental disorders--- including Electroconvulsive Therapy (ECT). The medical-scientific community, during that time, was incredibly focused on brain
research. Cortical mapping studies were also being conducted. Even our mental disorders started to take on brain-focused nomenclature (i.e.
"minimal brain dysfunction" for ADHD).
My point is that the development of a secret electronic mind control program was entirely within the realm and scope of medical science at the
time.
Currently, Dr. Michael Persinger is conducting similar experiments (implanting thoughts) using electromagnetic waves at his university laboratory in
Canada. He only practices on willing volunteers, and the procedure involves no surgery at all. The volunteers wear a special helmet which directs
the waves into the skull, to certain points in the brain. They often report having feelings of a presence in the room, of seeing white lights, things
of that nature-- depends on where the waves are directed, I think.
As Dragonrider mentioned, HAARP is in Gakona, Alaska. It might benefit everyone to read up on this project!
" Most of these people were ruled as insane (undoubtedly, such experiments rendered these people with brain damage, therefore making them
insane)."
Just a point of professional clarity on this, no offense at all intended-(i'm also a perpetual professor)- the "insanity" that they displayed was
likely implanted using directed hypnosis & drugs, not due to brain damage.
The brain is extremely resilient, and generally compensates well to minimal traumatic injury (particularly in younger subjects- even with implants
being involved). There are many folks who have suffered traumatic brain injuries from car accidents, etc who display no signs of psychopathology, but
DO show neuropsychological "red flags". These red flags indicate a portion of the brain has been damaged- but usually are not manifested as mental
disorders. Thus, I'm inclined to think that they were targetted/conditioned/induced as "mentally ill" by the folks that did the original
experiment, but I do not believe that the brain damage itself brought out those pathological characteristics. What a long-winded point- sorry!!!
LOL
Anyways, where is the relevance to the Skull and Bones? These are the individuals who are controlling this technology, folks. Don't forget that
more than 20 US presidents have been S & B members. They consider themselves to be "illuminated". The HAARP project has illuminati written all
over it. It's location is in a great place designed to keep people away. It is funded by the US Govt. And now our upcoming election is going to put
S&B against S&B. What was this thing about, "We the people"?
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reply posted on 24-5-2003 @ 12:39 AM by dragonrider
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Currently, Dr. Michael Persinger is conducting similar experiments (implanting thoughts) using electromagnetic waves at his university laboratory
in Canada. He only practices on willing volunteers, and the procedure involves no surgery at all. The volunteers wear a special helmet which directs
the waves into the skull, to certain points in the brain. They often report having feelings of a presence in the room, of seeing white lights, things
of that nature-- depends on where the waves are directed, I think. Posted by MKUltra
Indeed, there is documentation of Russian research into not just the transfer of mental information by electromagnetic means, but actual genetic
information (one experiment involved transmitting a wave form containing duck DNA into a chicken egg... when the egg hatched, it was a cross breed
between chicken and duck)
Info on electromagnetic manipulation of the human brain by HAARP:
Dr. Begich explained that the human brain has its own electrical frequencies (between 1-30 hertz) but it can easily be "entrained" to adopt other
frequencies in the environment. Thus, select ELF frequencies beamed at the brain can disrupt normal brain patterns, cause seizures, paralyze the
nervous system and create emotional instability. Dr. Begich said that Directed Energy weapons can actually flip human emotions on and off like a light
switch. Select frequencies can also be used to implant into the brain subliminal instructions against which the conscious mind has no defense. The Air
Force has readily admitted that these electromagnetic weapons are especially valuable because they attack silently, they can render individuals
combat-ineffective and countermeasures would be difficult, if not impossible, to develop.
www.geocities.com...
In fact, recently uncovered military documents show precisely how specific areas or regions can be targeted by HAARP for the purpose of disabling the
human mental functions to a degree that they would be unable to participate in combat or even to defend themselves! Some believe these adverse effects
on human behavior would eventually wear off, while many believe the mental (brain) damage would be permanent and irreversible.
www.seebo.net...
And beyond atmospheric dangers, the FEIS filed by the Air Force and Navy says that HAARP transmissions "can raise the internal body temperature of
nearby people; ignite road flares in the trunks of cars; detonate aerial munitions used in electronic fuses, and scramble aircraft communications,
navigation and flight-control systems." U.S. studies show that even small increases in EM radiation from devices like HAARP can cause human health
problems such as leukemia, cataracts, birth defects and cancer, alter brain chemistry, and elevate cholesterol, blood-sugar, blood pressure and heart
rates
www.emagazine.com...
Likewise, this patent to allow the inventor the exclusive right to create, and market, the technology to use certain frequencies for "inducement into
the brain" prove the technology exists and is being used in one form or another for Mind Control. We suspect that the Illuminist government of ours
currently is able to control the minds electromagnetically of people whom they have individually programmed, such as is the case in the school
shootings, where the shooters had been previously heavily involved in the occult. However, our government is also moving full-speed ahead to the
point where they can program minds enmasse prior to the time they want to actually begin controlling minds of entire populations. From the U.S.
Patent website we can see that this inventor references scientific work done as far back as 1962 [Ibid.]. Therefore, we know that certain segments of
science have been working steadily on this project, to control the minds of people.
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reply posted on 24-5-2003 @ 12:44 AM by MKULTRA
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Excellent job, thank you for those links. They all look good so far!
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reply posted on 24-5-2003 @ 12:56 AM by dragonrider
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I dont know about the accuracy or legitimacy of this book, but check out the disclaimer...
IF THERE IS ANY CHANCE you the reader have had mind-control done to you, you must consider the following book to be DANGEROUS. If you are consulting a
therapist for DID (also known as MPD), it is recommended that you consult your therapist before reading this book. The complications that could result
for those under mind control learning the truth--could be fatal. The co-authors take no responsibility for those who read or misuse this
information.
www.cyberspaceorbit.com...
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reply posted on 24-5-2003 @ 01:02 AM by dragonrider
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NSA mind control and psyops...
www.apfn.org...
James Shelby Downard's article, "Sorcery, Sex, Assassination and the Science of Symbolism ," an underground classic, links American historical
events with a wild, numerological, grand occult plan "to turn us into cybernetic mystery zombies". The assassination of JFK, this article contends,
was the performance of a public occult ritual called The Killing of the King, designed as a mass-trauma, mind-control assault against our U.S.
national body-politic.
During Operation Sunrise, Operation Blowback, Operation Paperclip and others, thousands of Nazi scientists, researchers and administrators were
brought to the United States after World War II. Many were "smuggled" into the country against direct, written, orders from President Harry S.
Truman.
Project Monarch was the resumption of a mind-control project called Marionette Programming, which started in Nazi Germany. The basic component of the
Monarch Program is the sophisticated manipulation of the mind, using extreme trauma to induce Multiple Personality Disorder.
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reply posted on 24-5-2003 @ 04:43 PM by MKULTRA
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Excellent information, as always. I'll do some digging with regard to the history of DID/MPD- I've had several patients with the disorder. I've
heard several reports of ritual abuse in this population, although many professionals don't put much faith into the accuracy of the reports.
" The headquarters of the False Memory Spin-drom Foundation is located at 3401 Market St., Suite 130, Philadelphia, PA 19104. Some of the original
founders were doctors of the University of Pennslyvannia. The inside story about these early FMS doctors of the University of Pennslyvannia is that
they practiced Satanic Rituals during their work days."
I will have some people check this address out, will let you know what they find out.
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reply posted on 24-5-2003 @ 04:49 PM by dragonrider
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I'll do some digging with regard to the history of DID/MPD- I've had several patients with the disorder. I've heard several reports of ritual
abuse in this population, although many professionals don't put much faith into the accuracy of the reports. Posted by MKUltra
Im not a psychologist, but I do personally know someone who has been diagnosed with MPD (multiple personality disorder), and ritual abuse was in fact
associated (the person had been sexually abused as a child by family members and multiple other people).
I didnt know exactly what the affects of MPD were (indeed, had no information on it at the time whatsoever) but after being around this person for
some time, I witnessed some VERY strange occurrences...
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reply posted on 25-5-2003 @ 01:57 AM by MKULTRA
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My contacts tell me that the address is to a location within the campus of the University of Pennsylvania.
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reply posted on 25-5-2003 @ 09:30 PM by dragonrider
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"Skull and Bones has its own special calendar that numbers years by adding 322."
Mr. Smarty Pants, Columnist, Austin Chronicle, 5/23/03
www.austinchronicle.com...
Anyone ever hear of that?? Any info??
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reply posted on 25-5-2003 @ 10:36 PM by MKULTRA
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"Skull and Bones has its own special calendar that numbers years by adding 322."
Do we have anyone mathematically inclined to figure this one out? Or is more information needed?
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reply posted on 25-5-2003 @ 10:43 PM by dragonrider
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THE story of Skull and Bones begins in December of 1832. Upset (according to one account) by changes in the Phi Beta Kappa election process, a Yale
senior named William Russell and a group of classmates decided to form the Eulogian Club as an American chapter of a German student organization. The
club paid obeisance to Eulogia, the goddess of eloquence, who took her place in the pantheon upon the death of the orator Demosthenes, in 322 B.C.,
and who is said to have returned in a kind of Second Coming on the occasion of the society's inception. The Yale society fastened a picture of its
symbol -- a skull and crossbones -- to the door of the chapel where it met. Today the number 322, recalling the date of Demosthenes' death, appears
on society stationery. The number has such mystical overtones that in 1967 a graduate student with no ties to Skull and Bones donated $322,000 to the
society.
(The number 322 has also been a particular favorite of conspiracy-minded hunters for evidence of Skull and Bones's global connections. It was the
combination to Averell Harriman's briefcase when he carried classified dispatches between London and Moscow during World War II. Antony C. Sutton
claims that 322 doubles as a reminder of the society's mother organization in Germany; the American group, founded in 1832, is the second chapter --
thus 32-2.)
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reply posted on 25-5-2003 @ 10:45 PM by dragonrider
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There has got to be some kind of psychological significance in this...
"The home of Skull and Bones on the Yale campus is a stone building resembling a mausoleum, and known as "the Tomb." Initiations take place on Deer
Island in the St. Lawrence River (an island owned by the Russell Trust Association), with regular reunions on Deer Island and at Yale. Initiation
rites reportedly include strenuous and traumatic activities of the new member, while immersed naked in mud, and in a coffin. More important is the
"sexual autobiography": The initiate tells the order all the sex secrets of his young life. Weakened mental defenses against manipulation, and the
blackmail potential of such information, have obvious permanent uses in enforcing loyalty among members.
The loyalty is intense. One of Bush's former teachers, whose own father was a Skull and Bones member, told our interviewer that his father used to
stab his little Skull and Bones pin into his skin to keep it in place when he took a bath.
Members continue throughout their lives to unburden themselves on their psycho-sexual thoughts to their Bones Brothers, even if they are no longer
sitting in a coffin. This has been the case with President George Bush, for whom these ties are reported to have a deep personal meaning. Beyond the
psychological manipulation associated with freemasonic mummery, there are very solid political reasons for Bush's strong identification with this
cult...."
- . from from chapter 7 of:
The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush by Webster Griffin Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin
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reply posted on 26-5-2003 @ 12:03 AM by dragonrider
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Jonestown an early mindcontrol experiment?
The CIA was first with news out of Jonestown, reporting the mass suicides. The suicides followed an attack, ordered by Jones, on a party led by
Congressman Leo Ryan, in Guyana to investigate alleged human rights abuses at Jonestown. The gunmen struck at Port Kaituma airfield, as the Ryan party
was preparing to depart. Ryan was assassinated in the attack. Four others died as well. Several more were shot, including Reiterman, then a reporter
for the San Francisco Examiner. Among the wounded was U.S. embassy official Richard Dwyer.
Wounded, but ambulatory.
Did Dwyer stroll back to Jonestown after the airstrip assault? Was he there during the massacre? Reportedly, at one point on a tape recorded as the
killings began, Jones's own voice commands, "Get Dwyer out of here!" Reiterman assumes that this was a "mistake" on Jones's part, that Dwyer was
not actually there. If he was, however, the implications are chilling.
Dwyer was an agent of the CIA.
For his part, Dwyer neither confirms nor denies that he was a CIA agent, but he was identified in the 1968 edition of Who's Who in the CIA. A month
after the
massacre the San Mateo Times, a Bay Area newspaper (hometown paper of Leo Ryan), reported that "State Department officials acknowledge that a CIA
agent was dispatched to Jonestown within minutes of the airstrip assault." Dwyer denied to the Times that he was there at the time. According to one
report, Dwyer's next stop after Guyana was Grenada.
www.conspire.com...
[Excerpts from a CIA mind control briefing]
In 1973, just after the CIA's redirection in the next stage of testing and development of the M.K. ULTRA and related operations, it was decided that
religious cults best represented a new and virtually fool-proof operations platform in which to further Mind Control technologies. Several religious
"sects and cults" were examined by the Agency for their possible utilization by the CIA in Top Secret studies of Mind Control operations.
In late 1973, under this new focus of the CIA, Deep Cover Operative George Philip Blakey made the initial $650,000 deposit for purchase of what would
become known as "The People's Temple" in Guyana, under the management of Reverend Jim Jones. During this period, Jones moved his People's Temple
from California to Guyana, where the Agency felt it would be isolated and kept away from public or government scrutiny which might interfere with the
operation.
Jones himself was already well known to many in California government. Among other things, he had been the Housing Commissioner of San Francisco. The
CIA operations specialists were enthusiastic about the People's Temple operations. Like the abortive UCLA Center for the Study of Violent Behavior,
The People's Temple membership was largely Black and impoverished, while the upper management under Jones was all White.
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reply posted on 26-5-2003 @ 12:35 AM by MKULTRA
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"The initiate tells the order all the sex secrets of his young life. Weakened mental defenses against manipulation, and the blackmail potential of
such information, have obvious permanent uses in enforcing loyalty among members."
There is a strong significance to this- considering that many of these bloodlines involve inbreeding & incest. So when you have "highly
respectible" young men revealing these deepest secrets, it creates a loyalty that is perpetuated by their fear of that information being made public.
It really compartmentalises the loyalty, as if it were to God himself. Think about it, most people don't go to therapists, they go to family,
friends or to church to talk about it. And if it is a socially-forbidden secret, maybe the church won't even find out. But the S & B will !
Keep in mind though that the S & B have a lifetime of conditioning, so by the time they get to the college level, this shift will not have as
traumatic an affect.
"his father used to stab his little Skull and Bones pin into his skin to keep it in place when he took a bath."
Self-mutilation happens to be associated with dissociative behaviors.
"Members continue throughout their lives to unburden themselves on their psycho-sexual thoughts to their Bones Brothers, even if they are no longer
sitting in a coffin."
This is the price they pay- no true privacy for the rest of their lives.
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reply posted on 26-5-2003 @ 12:44 AM by dragonrider
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So when you have "highly respectible" young men revealing these deepest secrets, it creates a loyalty that is perpetuated by their fear of that
information being made public. Posted by MKUltra
If this information they are revealing is so traumatic, and gives someone else so much power over them, why would they reveal it? Sounds like
something that would otherwise be sealed in a box and taken to the grave....
It sounds like a great game they play, constantly updating (bragging?) about thier sexual exploits, knowing that what they are talking about could
(will?) be used against them...
Why?
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reply posted on 26-5-2003 @ 03:30 AM by MKULTRA
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"So when you have "highly respectible" young men revealing these deepest secrets, it creates a loyalty that is perpetuated by their fear of that
information being made public. Posted by MKUltra"
"If this information they are revealing is so traumatic, and gives someone else so much power over them, why would they reveal it? Sounds like
something that would otherwise be sealed in a box and taken to the grave...."
They may be coerced and lied to about it. Something like, "don't even think about lying, don't forget that we control knowledge". Either that or
they tell you that if they ever find out you lied or withheld, they go public with the information. Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't
situation. That's my best guess with regard to forced confessions.
"It sounds like a great game they play, constantly updating (bragging?) about thier sexual exploits, knowing that what they are talking about could
(will?) be used against them...
Why?"
That's really the critical question, why. Perhaps to promote the brotherhood notion (although Jenna Bush is going to Yale- I wonder if she will be S
& B). Or maybe after the initial 'shock' it all becomes normalized, "Hey that happened to me too, look how much we have in common".
On the other hand, if you get into Illuminati lore, these confessions could be seen as a way to ensure that the bloodlines are staying pure. This way
marriages can be arranged, etc. They get tips from each other on various sexual practices, perhaps blend all of that into some form of satanic
ritual. The process of sharing brings them together emotionally, which better facilitates them making ritual sacrifices together, perhaps.
Of course, it could be much simpler. The enormously wealthy want to remain enormously wealthy and associate with only those of equal wealth.
While I'm inclined to believe the Illuminati connection, its tough to confirm! We have to keep our eyes peeled!
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reply posted on 26-5-2003 @ 11:42 AM by dragonrider
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"Power Corrupts: Absolute power corrupts absolutely"
I guess we shouldnt be so surprised then, if the most powerful people in the world are willing to sell out themselves, their own personal value
systems, and their own dignity, it shouldn't come as a shock that they are willing to sell out the American people, or perhaps the entire human race
as a whole.
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