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Originally posted by ValentineWiggin
Originally posted by SpaDe_
Originally posted by cry93
reply to post by RalagaNarHallas
You are assuming that Trayvon struck first based on GZ words.
My point is being followed is a menacing act. Had GZ stayed in his vehicle as advised Trayvon would still be alive today. Walking at night isn't a crime, either.
Oh, and I like how you aborted your racial diatribe here. Good job.
You could take this one step further and say that if Trayvon would have not gone into a neighborhood that he did not belong in he would still be alive. Let's face it Zimmerman was within his rights to follow Trayvon even if he wasn't neighborhood watch captain.
Following someone is not a menacing act either. If you have nothing to hide and your not doing anything wrong then why not just ask why the person is following. Instead Trayvon chose to confront and assault Zimmerman, and eyewitnesses corroborate his story.
How did he not belong?
More importantly, how is this different than "If you hadn't worn that slutty dress you would not have gotten raped"?
Originally posted by cry93
Let us start over. Being followed is an aggressive act in and of itself. It is not illegal but most would respond with some type of equally aggressive action, especially if the follower is within strking distance.
Originally posted by ValentineWiggin
Originally posted by HauntWok
So let's see, unarmed man, shot by armed man.
Let's not forget, someone is dead. Yes, he was found not guilty of murder or manslaughter. But the fact (and it is a fact) Zimmerman shot and killed Martin.
Some people may be proud of Zimmerman for what he did, some probably think he's a hero.
But maybe just maybe, humans can use words instead of violence to solve life's problems. Yes, guns don't kill people, but violence sure can.
I am a female who is logical. I am also a concrete thinker. Here is my thought process.
Told not to follow, followed.
Armed, Travyon unarmed.
Travyon is dead.
That is murder.
Nothing to see here carry on
Originally posted by RalagaNarHallas
reply to post by ValentineWiggin
by a 911 dispatcher(or what ever they call the non emergency operators) who was not a cop and had no authority to either tell or not tell him to do anything.
him getting out of his truck legal
him following travon legal
what was illegal was when travon decided to attack Zimmerman and thus lost his life
on the it was not his business he was neighborhood watch and called the authorities to report a suspicious person
get over it zimmerman didnt break the law travon did. self defense is legal in the usa especially Florida
Originally posted by SpaDe_
Originally posted by ValentineWiggin
Originally posted by SpaDe_
Originally posted by cry93
reply to post by RalagaNarHallas
You are assuming that Trayvon struck first based on GZ words.
My point is being followed is a menacing act. Had GZ stayed in his vehicle as advised Trayvon would still be alive today. Walking at night isn't a crime, either.
Oh, and I like how you aborted your racial diatribe here. Good job.
You could take this one step further and say that if Trayvon would have not gone into a neighborhood that he did not belong in he would still be alive. Let's face it Zimmerman was within his rights to follow Trayvon even if he wasn't neighborhood watch captain.
Following someone is not a menacing act either. If you have nothing to hide and your not doing anything wrong then why not just ask why the person is following. Instead Trayvon chose to confront and assault Zimmerman, and eyewitnesses corroborate his story.
How did he not belong?
More importantly, how is this different than "If you hadn't worn that slutty dress you would not have gotten raped"?
You should re read what I posted, it wasn't his attire that got him killed it was his actions. I don't even mention attire, so that analogy doesn't even fit this situation. If he did belong, then why did he not address the fact that he was being followed by simply saying something like, "Hey is there a reason your following me, I'm just on my way to (insert location here)".
I think people are giving way to much benefit of doubt to Trayvon based on the preteen pictures that keep floating around the media of a harmless looking young boy instead of the actual pictures of his current age and body type.
Originally posted by RalagaNarHallas
reply to post by ValentineWiggin
easy the "slutty"(dont really like phrasing it this way as no one deserves to be raped ever) girl as you put it didn't assault the guy before he raped her
now if he tried to rape her and she then assaulted him that would be legal or what we like to call self defense
and as Zimmerman was not trying to rape martin i don't see how rape is relevant to the case
he who starts the fight is almost always the one at fault and found guilty
Originally posted by RalagaNarHallas
to the people who think zimmerman did something wrong why was he cleared of all charges? was it cuz america is only wanted to kill black teenagers or is it because the state failed miserably to disprove self defense?was the jury all a bunch of racist women? why do you think he was voted not guilty if you have such a problem with the verdict?