ATS do we remember what was going on before the shooting and trial?

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posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 11:23 AM
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14-2-2012
Glendale Police shoot and Kill grandfather with granchild in arms
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19-2-2012
Spent shell caseing sent with new pistol?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

21-2-2012
Detroit wants to outlaw guns
www.abovetopsecret.com...

21-2-2012
Russia's New Assault Rifle AK-12
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21-2-2012
New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar
www.abovetopsecret.com...

23-2-2012
Grandpa Arrested for Holding Burglar at Gunpoint
www.abovetopsecret.com...

23-2-2012
Guns In Space. Some Interesting Facts.,
www.abovetopsecret.com...

23-2-2012
Smoking Gun: DU Weapons Used Against U.S. Army In Iraq?,
www.abovetopsecret.com...

20-2-2012
Cop Tazers Handcuffed Women In The Back. She Is Now Braindead
www.abovetopsecret.com...


In my opinion all conversations about the right of citizens to own firearms,
all details about safety courses, responsibilities and duties,
have been hijacked and pivoted into racism.

Let the dead bury the dead.
Remember who you are.

Find the conspiracies.


Mike
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edit on 7/16/2013 by benevolent tyrant because: to correct spelling error in thread title (from 'shoting' to 'shooting




posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 11:44 AM
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16-2-2012
This Will Make Your Day: Pistol-packing Granny!,
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17-2-2012
Tasers have killed at least 500 Americans
www.abovetopsecret.com...


I can see why TPTB felt they needed a media circus,
to get some control of the conversation.


Mike
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posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 11:44 AM
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Remember years ago when ATS was real mad about illegal immigration and George Bush?

What's the point of this thread?

People talk about current events, this is normal.

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posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by WaterBottle
Remember years ago when ATS was real mad about illegal immigration and George Bush?

What's the point of this thread?

People talk about current events, this is normal.



Normal ?!?

Normal?

Normal ...

The second Amendment applies to all Americans,
no matter the color, from pink to blue, both
boys and girls.

The safe handling and storage of firearms,
safety courses, training at the firing range.

I'm tired of idiots who point "empty" pieces at me
and when I say "always treat a firearm like it's loaded"
they get mad at me like i'm the butt hole.

And informed citizenry is
a friggin civic duty .... (string of profanities redacted) ...

There used to be Boxing and Riflery classes in the schools,
but the dep of Ed took them out.
Reason given: we don't want all that violence near our children.

Funny thing, no one was shooting up schools when they had their own rifle teams,
and no one was being bullied in the halls when you could "Take it to the ring".





The matrix has you Neo.
You are a slave.



Mike Grouchy



posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 12:24 PM
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English person here, I don't care get over it.



posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by DPrice
English person here, I don't care [color=gold] get over it.




In England adults have to swallow a lot of foul behavior
from so-called minors. And In this video the adult,
didn't go to jail for one reason, and one reason
only. The Chav was the aggressor.

Maybe I'm not the one who
should "get over it."


Mike



posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 01:28 PM
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That's basic self defence. What's your point?



posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by DPrice
reply to post by mikegrouchy
 


That's basic self defence. What's your point?


... And the defense rests.


Mike



posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 02:24 PM
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Ah so you think people should be able to attack anyone that's annoying them. I hope you aren't married or have kids you sound like a lunatic.



posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by DPrice
reply to post by mikegrouchy
 


Ah so you think people should be able to attack anyone that's annoying them. I hope you aren't married or have kids you sound like a lunatic.


What's the matter?

The utopian dream of a world full of judgmental people
who form consensus based on who they think the lunatic is,
not coming together the way propaganda and the media promised?

Us peasants turned out to be smart enough to study, understand, and respect Law.

/sarcasm
Don't be sad.
/end sarcasm


Mike



posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 03:32 PM
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The point that I see is don't let one issue distract you from everything else going on. While you're watching the right hand, the left is up to all sorts of mischief!



posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by Magister
reply to post by WaterBottle
 


The point that I see is don't let one issue distract you from everything else going on. While you're watching the right hand, the left is up to all sorts of mischief!



Exactly right.

And some people, in some states are watching out.

Type these three words into any search engine and click on "news"
Senate, Gun, Laws.

You'll see there is a quiet offensive going on in legislatures across the country
trying to change, amend, or restrict the Second Amendment at state levels.

Unfortunately for one Senator in Colorado,
this is going to cost him his seat.


Mike



On June 18, Colorado certified that the recall effort had gained enough signatures to move forward making Senator leader Morse the first legislator to ever be recalled in the state’s history.

Colorado Sen. Who Spearheaded anti-gun laws is close to recall


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posted on Jul, 14 2013 @ 07:44 PM
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...and another one.


Mike




The pro-gun forces have also gathered enough signatures to recall another state senator. 13,500 signatures to recall State Senator Angela Giron of Pueblo were also recently filed.

During her vote in favor of the gun bills, [color=gold] Senator Giron told Colorado media that she knew she was voting against the will of her constituents but that she didn’t care.




posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:46 AM
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And this buried White House report from shortly before the verdict.


Mike


The report, ordered under one of President Obama’s 23 Executive Orders signed in the wake of the Sandy Hook incident, asked the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the National Research Council and other federal agencies to identify the "most pressing problems in firearms violence."

To the surprise of the authors and those who would no doubt have used the report to further restrict access to personal defense firearms, the study found that gun ownership actually saves lives, and those who have a firearm at their disposal improve their chances of survival and reduce their chance of injury in the event they are confronted by a violent criminal:

Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year....


Up until this study became available, anti-gun politicians often cited figures that indicated that just 108,000 people a year used guns in self defense. The new study suggests that those numbers were off by over 2500%.


SHTFplan.com [source]

ATS thread about it 30-6-2013
White House Study finds Guns save Lives.



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by DPrice
English person here, I don't care get over it.


If you don't care, why do you post in this thread? Maybe you should "get over it".



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 03:08 PM
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What an idiot. Made me feel good to see that punk get slapped to the ground like that.

Some people can learn no other way.



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by mikegrouchy

Originally posted by DPrice
English person here, I don't care [color=gold] get over it.




In England adults have to swallow a lot of foul behavior
from so-called minors. And In this video the adult,
didn't go to jail for one reason, and one reason
only. The Chav was the aggressor.

Maybe I'm not the one who
should "get over it."


Mike
I woulda clocked him within the first twenty secs



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 07:04 PM
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That is what needs to happen to a lot of people in this administration right now.

These idiots are nothing more than a joke. A bad joke at that cuz no one is laughing.



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by bottleslingguy

I woulda clocked him within the first twenty secs



The laws in England are quite biased in favor of "youth"
and as a minor many of the chavs know this and exploit it.

It is an epidemic. There are tons of youtube videos about it.

Chav stands for C)haritable H)ousing A)nd V)iolent.

What is unusual about the video above is that there was only one male Chav.

Usually they travel in packs.
Here is a 20 minute video
by someone who lives in housing near some.



They are almost untouchable
being protected by "minor" status,
and they are very savy of the limits.

As Jordan explains,
mostly they drink beer and smoke "ciggs"
when they are aren't robbing and mugging people.

But regardless,
If you lay a finger on one,
and you are an adult in England
the Authorities will do something about it.


Mike
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posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:44 PM
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What I remember most before the trial was Bengazi, IRS Scandal, NSA copying all our electronic media/personal information, and all the rest of the follies committed by the FBI, DOJ and DHS...Oh yes, and there's Obamacare which speaks volumes for itself.

Remember...if you trash your Hard Drive just call the National Security Agency as they have all your files and much much more.





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