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posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 07:43 AM
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Now that Russia is prepared to grant Snowden asylum, the US administration is in full attack mode.




White House Spokesman Jay Carney, said the meeting runs counter to the Russian government's declarations of neutrality in the matter and statements that it has no control over Snowden's presence at the airport.

"Providing a propaganda platform for Mr. Snowden runs counter to the Russian government's previous declarations of Russia's neutrality and that they have no control over his presence in the airport," White House Spokesman Jay Carney said during a news conference in Washington DC on Friday.


The Guardian

In other words.. or newspeak..
Telling the truth is now propaganda..
And propaganda is now the truth?


Maybe they should just create the Ministry of Truth and be done with it.




PS: I've been searching and I can't find this news in any american sources.
It's in Indian, Russian, Israeli, Norwegian, British and probably a few outer news outlets though.




posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 07:46 AM
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Originally posted by tyfon
In other words.. or newspeak..


That book - 1984 - is amazing. If a person reads that book with their eyes wide open, they will see some amazing and concerning similarities between life in that book in 1984, and life in the world today.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 08:09 AM
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Wow its obvious the Us government no longer cares how it is being perceived. They seem content to play the part of the evil empire. Scary stuff.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 08:15 AM
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reply to post by FlyersFan
 


I wonder why that is?
The book isn't just an idea off how the world would look like in the future, it is the idea they have planned for us and he knew that.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 08:23 AM
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The answer to 1984 is 1776?



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by intergalactic fire
reply to post by FlyersFan
 


I wonder why that is?
The book isn't just an idea off how the world would look like in the future, it is the idea they have planned for us and he knew that.


They read it and thought: This is great.. lets make it 1000 times "better".

I actually think it is way worse today than in Nineteen-Eighty-Four.
We don't know where and what they listen into.

And the information gathering possiblities are a _lot_ better than in the book...


Scary indeed.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 09:23 AM
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As i said before, these are not just ideas popping up in the head of a writer. These are actual ideas and beliefs of a society, going all the way back to K. Marx.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by tyfon
In other words.. or newspeak..


That book - 1984 - is amazing. If a person reads that book with their eyes wide open, they will see some amazing and concerning similarities between life in that book in 1984, and life in the world today.


The problem is the Orwell wrote it as a polemic warning to the people of the day and for the future, but sadly it has been adopted as a blueprint by political parties who seek to keep us at war permanently and in fear. Why bother with universal healthcare provision, or educating the populace, or feeding the world, curing cancer, discovering cheap energy solutions, etc., when a minority can live in luxury we can't imagine, while the rest of the world struggles to maintain their standard of living and in many places people just struggle to live.

Oceania is at war with terrorism, it has always been at war with terrorism.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 10:52 AM
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1984 missed out on one key and important aspect of this
modern surveillance state
the world lives under now.

In Orwells' book there is still the problem of
intelligent writers being a threat to the system.

The system described in the book 1984
lacks the element of massive debt burdens
to keep the peasants quiet.

Take a look at this clip of
Patrick Swayze's
1987 movie "City of Joy"





Timestop 2:00

The local official explains to the trouble making doctor
that he wants him to stop giving the peasants hope.

He has a noisy chicken brought in,
and weighs it down, around the neck,
with two bags of coins.

The chicken just lays there quietly.
Accepting it's situation.


Mike






edit on 13-7-2013 by mikegrouchy because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 30 2013 @ 03:46 PM
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