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our Spelled Universe, Procession and Zodiac [ Luna and real Moon IV]

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posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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The ideas you have in mind of other than what is are what makes life unpleasant.
Why argue with reality (God)? Deny what is in favour for what isn't and that is what divides one from God.



- you are exactly sustaining the point; thank you.
This present "reality" is NOT " from God".
if you knew God - or cared to read what He said - then you d know that He wants only 1 thing: Heaven on EARTH.

..obviously, that must imply that at this moment, it ISNT.
right?

What yóu are proposing, is a compromise with Evil
- to keep Evils rule: as long it wont "bother yourself too much".

im sorry - that is an impossible stance.
since evil will not give up, untill it will Own you completely.

regards




posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12
the Spell has consumed your mind already
leaving you thrive upon an totally Unpersonal concept


The spell is the mind. The mind talks about other than what there is. The mind tells you about evil (which is a concept).
Is there any evil appearing right now or is evil a story about something happening somewhere else or some when else?
The mind tells stories that will never give you any peace.
But peace is what the stories appear in.
Peace is where you are but you go outside of what is real.



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Lone12
 


The ideas you have in mind of other than what is are what makes life unpleasant.
Why argue with reality (God)? Deny what is in favour for what isn't and that is what divides one from God.



- you are exactly sustaining the point; thank you.
This present "reality" is NOT " from God".
if you knew God - or cared to read what He said - then you d know that He wants only 1 thing: Heaven on EARTH.

..obviously, that must imply that at this moment, it ISNT.
right?


Heaven is right here and right now - the presence of the lord. God is what is present watching the scene that is arising presently.
God is not the seen world - God is in heaven watching now and always.

If you find that you are what is seeing the appearing presence you will know heaven.

Heaven is seeing earth.



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 05:02 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Lone12
 


You believe evil rules so that is your reality.
Eating from the tree of good and evil, you are banished from paradise.
The garden of Eden is right here and now but you have wandered out of presence into time and space (past/future and somewhere else).
The garden of Eden is where you are.
edit on 27-7-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


look please my friend
im not going to debate Truths here, into subjective opinions.
The garden of Eden WAS once - and it is NOT this holographic Fake.
If you cant get those basic facts straight, then you ll do nothing but swim into endless chaos.

the whole point is
that we need to get OUT of this holographic fake
and find the new Eden
- the same one, He started: but which was Sabotaged.

What yóu want, is the same as Evil wants:
to fabricate from *this* present matrix a New Dawn Society.

thats quite something else.



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Lone12
 


The ideas you have in mind of other than what is are what makes life unpleasant.
Why argue with reality (God)? Deny what is in favour for what isn't and that is what divides one from God.



- you are exactly sustaining the point; thank you.
This present "reality" is NOT " from God".
if you knew God - or cared to read what He said - then you d know that He wants only 1 thing: Heaven on EARTH.

..obviously, that must imply that at this moment, it ISNT.
right?



The present is all there is. Reality is what there is. Have you ever experienced anything outside this present moment? Can you see or hear the past? Can you see or hear the future? Are not 'future' and past' just thoughts arising always presently?
Can a thought arise without your presence?

If there is nothing but what is actually happening right now why disturb yourself with stories about other times or other places. Do not worship other, do not deny the presence.
God is right here and right now and so are you - isn't that strange? Recognize what is real and what is just projection.



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12

The garden of Eden WAS once - and it is NOT this holographic Fake.
If you cant get those basic facts straight, then you ll do nothing but swim into endless chaos.

the whole point is
that we need to get OUT of this holographic fake
and find the new Eden
- the same one, He started: but which was Sabotaged.



What is wrong with right now? Unless you think about it?
Your mind will tell you that everything is all wrong but the mind distracts you from the peace that is always present. It is your suffering that the bible is trying to help you cure - the world cannot be cured until you take the beam out of your eye.



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 05:10 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by Lone12

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Lone12
 


The ideas you have in mind of other than what is are what makes life unpleasant.
Why argue with reality (God)? Deny what is in favour for what isn't and that is what divides one from God.



- you are exactly sustaining the point; thank you.
This present "reality" is NOT " from God".
if you knew God - or cared to read what He said - then you d know that He wants only 1 thing: Heaven on EARTH.

..obviously, that must imply that at this moment, it ISNT.
right?



The present is all there is. Reality is what there is. Have you ever experienced anything outside this present moment? Can you see or hear the past? Can you see or hear the future? Are not 'future' and past' just thoughts arising always presently?
Can a thought arise without your presence?

If there is nothing but what is actually happening right now why disturb yourself with stories about other times or other places. Do not worship other, do not deny the presence.
God is right here and right now and so are you - isn't that strange? Recognize what is real and what is just projection.


honey im not going into subjective discussions with you.
Not cause i dont want to discuss
but your Vieuw on the relation between God and Man is too different to can Reconcile.
im sorry.

You have No Idea who God is
but as Concept in your own Mind.
- which is, ofcourse, Off.

Not as Existing Deity which is in Front of you.

trust me.

- dont get cross now ; i have no intention of being rude.
Just showing you.

regards



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 05:15 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12
honey im not going into subjective discussions with you.
Not cause i dont want to discuss
but your Vieuw on the relation between God and Man is too different to can Reconcile.
im sorry.

You have No Idea who God is
but as Concept in your own Mind.
- which is, ofcourse, Off.

Not as Existing Deity which is in Front of you.

trust me.

- dont get cross now ; i have no intention of being rude.
Just showing you.

regards


Nothing could insult me as I rest totally with God and I am pointing you to peace and harmony but I see you do not want it. What reason is there for me to be upset or cross?
God is not an idea, god is what all ideas arise in.



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12

You have No Idea who God is
but as Concept in your own Mind.
- which is, ofcourse, Off.

Not as Existing Deity which is in Front of you.

trust me.



Do you have an idea as to what God is?



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by Lone12

You have No Idea who God is
but as Concept in your own Mind.
- which is, ofcourse, Off.

Not as Existing Deity which is in Front of you.

trust me.



Do you have an idea as to what God is?


the truth ?
- no love i do not.

..i have encountered Him a few times when He approached

..it is like the Universe is turning around
imploding
expanding
...i ve no words to describe

totally annihilating "you "
or all you thought you was
or thought you knew

...i have the utmost respect for such a Personality.

so completely foreign to our thinking
Undoing our kind of thinking
playing with it

....i am telling you the Truth here.

im not against you - do know that
as much as i d be against myself ?
but i fight to get out of this #*** hologram
and find Life
...scary...incredible sweet....and new Life
by that same Deity i have sensed coming

kind regards



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 05:34 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by Lone12

You have No Idea who God is
but as Concept in your own Mind.
- which is, ofcourse, Off.

Not as Existing Deity which is in Front of you.

trust me.



Do you have an idea as to what God is?


the truth ?
- no love i do not.

..i have encountered Him a few times when He approached

..it is like the Universe is turning around
imploding
expanding
...i ve no words to describe

totally annihilating "you "
or all you thought you was
or thought you knew

Yes - the annihilation of 'you' is God waking up and seeing what is real. Presence is 'your absence'.
When the 'you' in time goes there is only this present happening.
The present is happening and that is all there is.
The 'you' is what is fake in this reality.
There is only God and God is the present happening.

God is this moment of presence and there is no 'you' separate from this.




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posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12

im not against you - do know that
as much as i d be against myself ?
but i fight to get out of this #*** hologram
and find Life
...scary...incredible sweet....and new Life
by that same Deity i have sensed coming

kind regards




Life is alive right here and right now - this is aliveness.
The hologram that you wish to escape is the holodeck in the head - a stage show of what is not actually happening. A stage called 'another time' and 'another place' on which you place a pretend you - on that stage all sorts of horror and drama can happen (absolutely anything can be imagined) but come back to where the action is really happening - right here and right now and see that all happenings happen in you - in presence.



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by Lone12

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by Lone12

You have No Idea who God is
but as Concept in your own Mind.
- which is, ofcourse, Off.

Not as Existing Deity which is in Front of you.

trust me.



Do you have an idea as to what God is?


the truth ?
- no love i do not.

..i have encountered Him a few times when He approached

..it is like the Universe is turning around
imploding
expanding
...i ve no words to describe

totally annihilating "you "
or all you thought you was
or thought you knew

Yes - the annihilation of 'you' is God waking up and seeing what is real. Presence is 'your absence'.
When the 'you' in time goes there is only this present happening.
The present is happening and that is all there is.
The 'you' is what is fake in this reality.
There is only God and God is the present happening.

God is this moment of presence and there is no 'you' separate from this.




edit on 27-7-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


- you are stubborn and WRONG,
and that is my final word on this matter.

Believe as you like -
cherish your stubbornness as you desire.

...He is a Seething though Controlled ocean of the sweetests Love whirling around ones Soul -
desiring to honour that Soul,
but that soul stands upon a square yard of unpenetratable Ego

...and satan does nothing else but FORTIFY that souls ego
to make that soul unreachable for Him.

This is what YOU are doing friend.

the difference between you and me
is that i fight to get OUT of that cursed square yard of desolation
- while you try to stay IN it.

All the best for you.
end of discussion.



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 05:48 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12
the difference between you and me
is that i fight to get OUT of that cursed square yard of desolation
- while you try to stay IN it.


I am out and know the way out but I see you are still wanting to play the game of hide and seek. I found but you are looking the other way so you still wish to seek.
I would say enjoy the seeking but I know how painful that part of the game is.



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 05:56 AM
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Thank you for an amazing subject. I have only read for 1 1/2 pages of this but it opens so many thoughts. I will find the time to read all that is here.



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12
the difference between you and me
is that i fight to get OUT of that cursed square yard of desolation
- while you try to stay IN it.



What are you doing to get out? Have you found a way out of whatever it is you dislike?
How are you curing the concept of 'evil'?

Denying what is in favour of what isn't is worshipping other.
The present is actually happening - it is not what you hold in mind - it is seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling. Life is sensational and the words make it mental - the words deceive one into leaving the presence, one seems to leave the garden of Eden. The whispering serpent can be very deceptive.

Words produce the spelled universe - words make you believe there is something outside of yourself. When there is a belief that there is something other than what there is then fear happens because it is as if you believe you will cease to be.
That fear makes you want to find something to make it all better - you think it is out there somewhere - when in fact there is nothing outside what you are.
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posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by Shiloh7
reply to post by Lone12
 

Thank you for an amazing subject. I have only read for 1 1/2 pages of this but it opens so many thoughts. I will find the time to read all that is here.


- make sure you find Him shiloh
promise me



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 08:15 AM
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Life is happening unconditionally.
And then a projection happens - a me is imagined. That me suffers. Only when 'me' falls away will the suffering end.



posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by Lone12
Originally posted by veteranhumanbeing
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veteranhumanbeing
Any idea as to whom is the controller of the locks; its clear they are there , spells, visuals, verbalizations. I have an idea.



Lone12
..i assume VHB you mean God , deriving that from your signaturebut im sorry; i cannot agree.
- i have never. ever. read such a deep hate against humans - us - as in all the Spells.
all s devised to keep us blind and deaf and imprisoned in this poor physical frame
and all of the Spelled 'reality ' around us, is devised to kéep us within this spelled frame
..so, so many rant on about ' the pineal ' without seeing that the Eye [ the rule of Evil, we search to locate ] is directly connected to the pinea the I , the Self consciousness of Evil is directly connected to our pineal !!
..our entire view on the world, on other people, on everything, is ADDED through the pineal by the Eye !
ofcóurse then it is complicated to figure out another reality [ Heaven] ?
since the Eye directs our wáy of looking at things, our very act of observing, everything !
....how can you hold God responsible, who wants nothing else, as to give us our superior stunning beings back, which we HAD once......??i dont understand you...


Not God necessarily, "YOUR HIGHER SELF" if you agree that aspect is better than you so be it. I see it as a more evolved form of myself that speaks to me. Who is spelling the hatred? The ones that control (or think they do)? The pineal gland is just an acorn form in the skull that allows for non verbal telecomunication. The only all seeing aspect of it is that if you meet someone with a developed 'third eye' can speak to each other without audable language, its just a function like disc brakes on your car, there is nothing evil intrinsic to it. I have two pineal glands, I have one also at the base of my spine (extra evil infiltrator). The Third Eye is just a place within the brain that can observe that which is not physical, its intuitive awareness that can instantly decifer EVIL, Mal intent. Its not the causation of EVER, its just an antennae (PRE-WARNING SYSTEM). Im not a fan of a God aspect, I only know that which I talk to are ME>my higher selves. I am all in as far as getting the stunning being back; at this point there is no God only you; and inso knowing this truth have only YOURSELF TO BLAME for the foibles or banana peel slips and the organization of pure thought to corral real and true change cannot be left upon others shoulders. You have to step up.

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posted on Jul, 27 2013 @ 07:56 PM
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- thank you for the thoughtful reply
....but you understand i see it quite different.

- i need, want, a Real Deity in front of me
that is the secret of Love : the Other

...because i d be uncomfortable Lonely with my own ideas and own Self....as you propose

- kind regards



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