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Pathetic how anyone could make excuses for these people. Assault is assault. It's against the law. I guess since there might be a few issues I disagree with you on I should be able to sucker punch you in the face too, right? I mean, you were asking for it bringing your views to wherever I happened to be at the time...
The depth of depravity which the PC crowd have sunk to seems to know no end, and is apparently incapable of cognisance of it's own hypocrisy.
And now imagine the uproar if a homosexual went to a church service and started handing out safe sex flyers.
The person was there provoking. He got attacked. It is not the most enlightened thing for either party to do, but stuff happens when you try and push people's buttons.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
This has "double standard" written all over it.
Originally posted by markosity1973
Originally posted by DeadSeraph
You can't have it both ways. Either you condemn this sort of behavior unequivocally or you condone it because the victim of the assault rubbed you the wrong way.
Can you not say that I disagree with the actions of that one individual, but at the end of the day if you poke a stick at a hive of bees, who's fault is it if you get stung?
So, if a Palestinian attacks a Jew for bowling their homeland and building an illegal settlement on it, is that a double standard if I say I am not surprised it happened too?
Originally posted by DeadSeraph
All the analogies of poking a bee hive are hypocritical and useless. You would not see things the same way if a gay protester was lynched at a neo nazi rally.
EVERYONE has the right to protest safely. I don't know where you live, but my countrymen DIED to ensure that right, and I would be happy to die to keep it. Gay, Christian, Muslim, All have the right to protest peacefully.
Assaulting someone is WRONG. Period. No excuses.
So standing there with a sign is provocation now? And amounts to "pushing peoples buttons"?
so does it mean physical assault is justified?
Originally posted by Darth_Prime
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
what excuses? i haven't read anyone condoning the violence
where was the outcry when i got assaulted by a group in the name of Jesus by myself on a public street?
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by markosity1973
So, if a Palestinian attacks a Jew for bowling their homeland and building an illegal settlement on it, is that a double standard if I say I am not surprised it happened too?
Getting assaulted for exercising the so called right to free speech has nothing to do with the Palestine issue. I think you are intentionally trying to muddle up the issue.
Originally posted by DeadSeraph
Originally posted by Darth_Prime
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
what excuses? i haven't read anyone condoning the violence
where was the outcry when i got assaulted by a group in the name of Jesus by myself on a public street?
What excuses? Read through the thread. Comment after comment of excuses. As for outcry, Where is the outcry for the man assaulted in the video? Not coming from you or anyone else on ATS apparently. Where was the outcry for me when I was assaulted for being me?
If you condone the assault on this man because he "poked a bee hive", then you condone your own victimization, because according to your own logic, you poked the wrong hive.
The point is that physical assault is NOT acceptable. If you were assaulted in the name of Jesus then I'd suggest you just take a look at what Jesus had to say about such people. They are no friends of His.
No matter what wrongs were visited upon you, it does not make assaulting someone right. I'm not sure how much more clear I can make this. It's like muslims who say "we don't agree with violent extremism BUT...". Either you condemn the actions without excuse, or you condone them.
Originally posted by Siberbat
War is not what Jesus taught
Originally posted by Superhans
Lets get some equality and charge these guys with a hate crime.
And showing up to a peaceful gay rally looking for trouble is not a hate crime in itself?