posted on Sep, 20 2013 @ 11:26 AM
Thoughts from a lurker..
“..... my view is that language is the only way we have to describe reality. As language is part of that reality, you cannot simply rely on
language to know reality: your conclusions will be limited by language itself. If you are exposed to aspects of reality that language cannot describe
properly, your knowledge about those aspects will be extremely limited.” Direne, posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 05:16 PM
The Gut touched on what stood out to me early on. That is, a collective consciousness acting in a hive mentality. If achieved the preset limits of
understanding would dissolve because together our aspects of reality increase substantially, and in effect our language broadens yet also
“A good example is quantum gravity (or just quantum mechanics). The math here is more powerful than language itself. You cannot describe properly
the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen experiment or the quantum nonlocality. The sentence "The photon is in two places at the same time" means nothing if
expressed using natural language. The quantum world does not have "here" and "there". If you were to be reduced to the size of a photon, language
would collapse” Direne, posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 05:16 PM
We evolve, our language evolves, our understanding evolves, our knowledge/capabilities evolve. We are then not limited to the quantum. But what do
we leave behind in the journey?
“Going to an exoplanet is a one-way trip. No return. Therefore, if you go, you go to stay. At any cost. At any rate.” Direne, posted on Jul, 17
2013 @ 07:11 PM
We have seen time and time again, in order to come together we must silence our ego. Ego as in what ties us to the quantum, not just ego of how we
compare to others. It is what encompasses our individuality, and what divides us (sometimes great distances).
So how do we achieve this?
“If the brain adopts a given specific measurable configuration milliseconds before opening your mouth to pronounce a word, why pronouncing a word
at all? Couldn't be better to 'read' that neural configuration somehow? And, wouldn't be wonderful if you could read that neural configuration at
a distance? Same for images. If your brain takes a particular, measurable, configuration when exposed to an external image, wouldn't be better to
learn how to read that configuration in order to 'see' the image your communication partner is seeing mentally?”
“We feel that's possible. At least, we feel that's where evolution is leading us.”
“ Cassini Diskus is an experiment to cope precisely with those scenarios in which language collapses. We noticed that each time you change the
scale of a problem, language should change accordingly. Otherwise, it proves useless as a means for communication.”Direne, posted on Jul, 15 2013 @
Scenarios in which language collapses… when our language collapses our perception brought on by our social programming no longer ‘interferes’
with our raw unaltered conceptual understanding and experience.
When I was a baby, before I could walk, I was crawling around my mother’s feet while she did the dishes. I stopped and sat on my bum and stared at
the wall. I remember distinctly looking over at my mothers feet and feeling a connection to her. As in,”oh I know you, and aha so THAT is why I am
here.” That first understanding of memory and building connections has held on for my entire life. Now I did not understand words, I had no true
sense of language at that point other than basic signals of want and need. But I understand now how we are born with an anti-language, an unhindered
understanding where words are not necessary in order to experience.
So how do we bridge the distance?
“Cassini Diskus is not a language. It is a device to encode information using sound and images and transforming that encoded information into a
signal, that is then transmitted at a frequency 27 Hz and/or 12.704 GHz” Direne, posted on Jul, 16 2013 @ 04:24 AM
And we come to a very astute question from Eidolon23….
“I assume that evolutionary leap would be technologically facilitated which presents two problems immediately to my mind.
1. It would probably only be available to those who can pay for it.
2. If the resources were available for universal usage, it would erase cultural and even ego distinctions in one fell swoop.
Do you think we're ready for that?”
In which the reply was:
“I don't see it that way. Changing the way you communicate does not change who you are. Take the sign language as an example. Using it (at a
global scale) does not affect the way society is organized,”Direne
But if language has collapsed, understanding is evolved through collective consciousness and limits are transformed of course we are going to change.
“And you need two beings to start communicating. Though the essential thing you need is space. Distance. Without space separating beings,
communication is not necessary.”Direne
But without space two beings become one.
In the end we have become the vampire, in that we have taken what information we wanted, we have chewed it and either spit it out or swallowed it up
and digested what we could of it. Transforming it into something we can grasp and try to understand to fulfill our own hunger and thirst. And
regardless of the outcome we killed it to consume it.