The Language of Vampyr

Voices from Edom, I surmount to them being artists being accredited to the video put together by Naoed, I can think of other unsigned and other un-google-able artists that have work in FL.org but guess that isn't spooky enough for some here, I guess if they used instrumentals from Bathory for their videos it would start a 2 page converstation about Elizabeth Bathory.


SMH



not every artist has a website or a youtube channel

reply to post by Brotherman


You are quite right, Brotherman - and it did occur to me that this may be absolutely nothing sinister or strange, just a band name, which is always a good thing to remember - bands are named all kinds of things! I was hesitant to bring in the EDOM reference for just that reason, but since the Edom theme was being discussed, I thought it was interesting, to add to that particular node of our larger discussion. EDOM is an interesting topic, as is the Biblical Edom, and as we work from crumbs, it is easy to pick up each and every one to add to our data basket, so to speak.

So, it really, truly, may be nothing more than a band name playing on whatever metaphors they are into.
Honestly, I don't know. I did try to find the band first, but it could just be one person with electronic music gear and a computer, calling themselves a band, and this could be their only composition so far.

Connections are interesting to look at, but not all connections lead to correct conclusions. But if we don't make connections, we lose out on potential clues. The best course, in my opinion, is to make connections but withhold conclusions until the data point to a clear answer.

peace to you,
AB

reply to post by AboveBoard


I am just saying I am pretty sure EDOM or whatever else is probably very much alive and well right now and are not ancient estoric or anything else as someone had to be accredited for the work on youtube, I do not think that I can accredit god for electronica music unless of course god was a band somewhere guess the world will never know for sure unless they get a youtube channel or a face book page

smh but not at you AB I always appreciate what you have to say

Brotherman
Voices from Edom, I surmount to them being artists being accredited to the video put together by Naoed, I can think of other unsigned and other un-google-able artists that have work in FL.org but guess that isn't spooky enough for some here, I guess if they used instrumentals from Bathory for their videos it would start a 2 page converstation about Elizabeth Bathory.

Yeah...they probably do all that work for disparate reasons and they have no real and/or collective philosophy behind their hard work that they go to great lengths to hide with antilanguage.

Just another hopeful garageband on youtube, eh? Recklessly pulling concepts and philosophies out of the air with no deeper meaning inherent?

No doubt we're playing guesserology to some degree, brotherman. No doubt,
as well, that most of us understand they're more serious than your own "youtube" garage-band disambiguation/metaphor.

Maybe you think--as proffered early in this thread--that they are fantasy-role-playing-emos? Just kids playing with names they pull off the internet for hits?

No, FL leaves unintentional clues--as do we all--when we name those things important to us. Whether we're intelligent enough to decipher them is another question.

I see this thread is still going. So did that direne person ever come back to answer more questions? Or did the whole thing fall into speculations and misfires, us and them, such and such. I take it the latter, she seemed like a semi rational person, and answered questions up in till the point of trying to troll a place so full of trolls, totally uncharacteristic of her, or at least based on the few posts I read, the others I skimmed or skipped. It does not seem like something a semi rational person would do all of a sudden.

Anyways they seem to put out pretty interesting vids, like the latest one the op put up with the cross sections between synthetic and biological. Transformers robots in disguise, is what probably came into the minds of many people, go figure eh? Thought I personally dont see what the big deal is, there vids dont necessarily say anything more then thousands of others out there, and the whole mind numbing or mind relaxing thing at 27 hz I still think there trying to give people diarrhea, amateurish I would say, if that is what there trying to do. But in comparison to the moon were all, us that is, meat bone and mostly water sack creatures at its beck and call, the tides of the moon do not only effect the oceans and water based creatures such as fish you know. And the whole FL site, well I mean who cares? Why not just go ahead and say what you need or want to say? The whole thing seems kind of pointless, and then there wondering why they get misconstrued. Pshh. I mean really for people who claim to be language specialists or prone to such, they seem to suck at explaining even basic things.

Is it just me or am I the only one in this thread who does not care about all the possible mysterious which may or may not be going on. Probably just me no doubt. And for that edom memory wiping thing as I only read a few pages from this page and did not read like 70% of this thread. But I mean who needs it when a day or few hours would accomplish the same, people are not known for there great memory retention skills, the public attention span can be measured in nanoseconds some instances. I mean the radio and TV have been doing it for some time now making people see only parts of things, in instances as they come and go, and only what is required to see sometimes a blurry shadowy image is more and says because it leaves much to that most most circumspect of things called imagination. Like that allegory in platos cave, flickering images and shapes on the wall which pass by only to be replaced by new ones in different configurations. If anything what everybody from the media to even these FL people are trying to do is keep peoples attention glued, and sometimes there just may be nothing there till somebody sees something in it, or even sometimes what people think may be there, is more interesting then what actually is there. Our whole civilizations, religions, gods, goddesses, media, governments, and the whole shebang is more in part on getting people to see something which is not really there but is created and brought to life once there is enough focus on it. i.e. If you build it they will come.

Sorry to say but I do not think they have anything to say that is all that special, and definitely nothing which has not been said before. But i dont know do words have meaning? Isn't language merely just a transitory thing? There is no vampiric languages when all languages are just amalgamation of every other language that came before it. Is there an origin? Off course not! as its all just a constantly changing thing, withing the span of a few years the language you use any language would change. I mean look at English and how much it has changed in the past few hundred years, and it will continue to do so after were gone. So what is a vampiric language when there all a bit from here and there. There are no vampiric languages, there are only languages which commute a use, a function among a whole.

And if there was any original language it was not expressed and communicated in words or sounds. In fact that is what holds this whole thing together and societies functioning being and emitting the same frequencies both in thoughts and sounds, if our societies and everybody in them were to overnight become telepathic our whole world and society would fall apart overnight as there is little more to it then the things it puts out, though it would rearrange itself in a myriad of different focuses. I dont know I think that one direne person said there all supposedly telepathic, which obviously can not be the case, thought they may be more aware of each others mind frames in there little group. But telepathic? Negative on that. Telepathy is a kind of solvent, something they seem to try and to achieving to certain ends but in small locales and groups, while in fact telepathy may be something that may already exists though none of us, if any, are even aware of it.

For all we know we could be at the apex of individual communication, the whole thing about being able to see or translate the synapses of another brain/mind is not really telepathy per say, or it is. But its also being another step in that process, a hive mind is usually operated by a higher intelligence the total sum of its parts, even if they are not connected by physical means, but they also do not in many ways have any sort of free will beyond there purposes and programmings. But then again it all just depends on how you look at it, as opposed to how you are allowed to look at it.

I've been going over and over parts of the thread and checking out tons of the links related to posts...and I have to say I am even more of the opinion that the FL people have an agenda with questionable motives...

There are a few nebulous new ideas trying to coalesce in my brain, but I think I may have hit on something specific:

I think that the reasons their videos are so gruesome and layered in imagery is to hyper focus the optical receptors in the brain, keeping the conscious mind on the images, so that...
....the audio receptors can be used to breach the subconscious mind...they are experimenting in this way to see if Cassini Diskus can be used in subliminal sounds as opposed to pictures...

I was already forming this theory when I followed a link ending in articles on 'programming' with subliminal sound...

I imagine it's fairly early days yet as far as the degree of success they are having, but I have a feeling they are on the right track, because in my extensive review of the thread I came across a couple posts of people who tried playing a video with their eyes closed, and the music alone gave them distinctly unpleasant feelings (with brief residual effect) to the point they couldn't listen to the whole thing...

reply to post by The GUT


I never said garage band and can say and claim many artistic feats visually and other means without the use of garage band or the internet, I fail to see the connection, maybe some choose to stay off of the mainstream web but where obscure interests are, obscure people find. It is sometimes in the strangest of places you might find something artistic that defines you or me, maybe even a painting from a garage sale? I hardly am under the impression of garage band though this in my opinion is truly on your part knowingly or not a very bad misinterpretation of what it is I was trying to say their. Some may argue the best bands are garage bands, I am saying I am not saying this is the best or the worst, but this was not made in a garage or mommas basement.

No, FL leaves unintentional clues--as do we all--when we name those things important to us. Whether we're intelligent enough to decipher them is another question.

This is like saying ATS does not leave clues FL in my opinion is not very much different ATS wasnt always this way either I find this mentality very odd for you my friend. Maybe alot like ATS, FL does not have an agenda they just create content, theirs just happens to be a bit different in format, I would almost wish to bet that every topic there in some way or another has already been covered here as well. Problem is, if you can't read the script then we will never really know for sure. Problem with this is, what if this is true? Would this mean ATS is like them?

reply to post by galadofwarthethird

Hi,
I'm really sorry that I have to disagree...as someone who not only read the whole thread, but has been immersed in many specific pages/individual subject matter posts - and doing extensive follow-up research, there really is an agenda (maybe even more than one) to all the information they are gathering and all the extrapolation of the various components of research they are doing...

galadofwarthethird
And for that edom memory wiping thing as I only read a few pages from this page and did not read like 70% of this thread.

I wonder why someone with your fairly in-the-negative ATS stats would even post an uber-boring wall of text like that after admitting they are ignorant of 70% of the content here?

I stopped reading at that rather self-embarrasing admission of yours. Have you ever contributed a thread here? If not you should probably sit down and shut it instead of speaking out your behind.

Research laziness and admitted ignorance is no excuse.

reply to post by lostgirl

Well everybody has an agenda lostgirl. You practically cant be a living breathing biological being, or for that material being period without there being an agenda in there somewhere at some level. In fact even immaterial beings most likely have agendas, if they exist that is. So I do not think it is a question of do they have and agenda or dont they. Off course they would have something of that nature. As to what it is? Who knows, like you said I merely skimmed this thread and i do not really care either way. You could ask others or yourself since you actually read this whole thread to get an answer to that. Ah but how do you know the people you ask do themselfs not have an agenda or at least a particular way of looking at things. You see the thing can just go on and on.

But the art of listening is a dying art, for all intensive purposes it may just be what they said it is somewhere in the beginnings of this thread. The definitions of nefarious or good or bad, is prone to change depending on any number of factors and circumstances, sometimes literally depending on which side of the line your on. Though sneaky people can not be trusted, they could just suck at expressing what it is they are trying to do and get at, or it may change depending on data they get. Which after looking at there site for some minutes its what it seems to be about, thought there is a onerous theme to it, that to could be subject to change. Ultimately everything is subject to change.

Brotherman
This is like saying ATS does not leave clues...

That was my point. We All do. I've made that point more than once.

Maybe alot like ATS, FL does not have an agenda they just create content, theirs just happens to be a bit different in format

That would be counter to the concept, for one, of creating an antilaguage. As such it differentiates itself to what we do here. That makes sense, right?

Brotherman
Voices from Edom, I surmount to them being artists being accredited to the video put together by Naoed, I can think of other unsigned and other un-google-able artists that have work in FL.org but guess that isn't spooky enough for some here, I guess if they used instrumentals from Bathory for their videos it would start a 2 page converstation about Elizabeth Bathory.


SMH



not every artist has a website or a youtube channel

Okay, i gotta say something about this, brotherman.....

If you don't like the direction, resist, push away, and reflect on the board how it cannot be pertinent. FL is absolutely filled to the brim with esoteric symbology, and outright confrontational theories representing occultism one could spell it out and you'd still friggin argue with it. I've had it with that. It's silly, and a waste of everyone's time, IMHO. Everything obvious, replied to and linked with some obvious esoteric root to what this website is, you argue with.

"Let's just understand the language."

I find this similar to your avatar: a badger, teeth shown and hostility obvious, but with a really, pretty, very shiny coat....

reply to post by The GUT


Often times in regards to the presented topic you and I find ourselves at not issues but cross sections of the same thing as where I am most interested in communication your interests lay either there or somewhere else, my stand alone point has been clear and accepted by many still here. Sometimes what I learn does point to estoric, archaic, and other points of reference from original source, but under scrutiny ATS and other places across the net have not seen this kind of scrutiny. I still wonder why them and not other places? I can think of 3 off the top of my head that are probably even stranger then FL and I can source going through other notes that if I put a sensational title too could also be just as demeaning to the authors and their likes and beliefs, I simply am asking you, what truth is there with FL not apparent other places when the same scrutiny and parallels are applied?

What comparisons can you draw if applied to the ATS search under every topic asked about in regards to FL can you make minus of course proprietary FL.org subjects like CD and literally forgotten languages? This has been attempted and make sure you use quotation marks for terms, you might surprise yourself.

Okay, I was trying to edit for clarity and managed to lose the whole bloody post!

I know Brotherman read it (all the stuff before my eyeballs falling out)...if it's worth writing out all over again, let me know...thank you!

The GUT

Brotherman
This is like saying ATS does not leave clues...

That was my point. We All do. I've made that point more than once.

Maybe alot like ATS, FL does not have an agenda they just create content, theirs just happens to be a bit different in format

That would be counter to the concept, for one, of creating an antilaguage. As such it differentiates itself to what we do here. That makes sense, right?

edit on 9-9-2013 by The GUT because: (no reason given)

I think antilanguage has more of a basis in telepathy/intuition than it does posting on an internet forum it is a shame we can not read what they have to say about it in their own words as using words is kind of counter intuitive to having an anti language wouldnt you agree?

Brotherman
reply to post by AboveBoard

 

I am just saying I am pretty sure EDOM or whatever else is probably very much alive and well right now and are not ancient estoric or anything else as someone had to be accredited for the work on youtube, I do not think that I can accredit god for electronica music unless of course god was a band somewhere guess the world will never know for sure unless they get a youtube channel or a face book page

smh but not at you AB I always appreciate what you have to say

Ummm, first I would like it a whole lot if you would begin to use punctuation. It has a purpose, and helps, aids in your effort to communicate. Otherwise, it's one long, run on sentence. Not the grammar police---just want to make sure I understand you, precisely....


"EDOM is pretty much alive and well right now" please, I would like very much to explain exactly what you mean here, please. Perhaps I am just obtuse, and apologies if that is the case.
Tetra

reply to post by lostgirl


"I have not researched "sonochemistry" yet...my eyeballs feel like they're fixin' to fall out of my head!"

Welcome to the club

reply to post by tetra50


What I meant exactly(comma) is that the people that are accredited for the music that was used by (capital) forgottenlanguages.org is very much living breathing people that are very good at electronica music. (electronica is not a word recognized by the OED either so this is a slang term for noise made by computers)

You did sound like the grammer police sorry for poking B's nests but I am not fond of police whether grammer or not.


"Okay, i gotta say something about this, brotherman.....

If you don't like the direction, resist, push away, and reflect on the board how it cannot be pertinent. FL is absolutely filled to the brim with esoteric symbology, and outright confrontational theories representing occultism one could spell it out and you'd still friggin argue with it. I've had it with that. It's silly, and a waste of everyone's time, IMHO. Everything obvious, replied to and linked with some obvious esoteric root to what this website is, you argue with. "

So is ATS whats your point

reply to post by The GUT

I did not say I was ignorant on the contents. I merely said I did not read some majority of it going on in this thread. There is a difference you know. And it is against my religion to make threads, if it were otherwise I would probably be kicked out of this place for spamming it with all kinds of things, most of which very few would understand, I could for all intensive purposes end up talking to myself for hundreds of pages. Which is not cool, and I think they have a rule against that.

But relax there mister The Gut. In this instance your gut is wrong, if your even going by that. Pfff. As if. Do carry on, tell you what I will be staying away from this thread, if that makes you feel any better. Besides i think all of you are just speculating a lot, without somebody to say contrary and seeing as that direne person from the FL site is not coming back to say anything on the matter. What is to say that any of the things you all say is not just idle banter and pure speculations. What I am saying is all of your research only seems to take into account a few point of views and none of those of the actual and original people which this thread is about. You could all just be agreeing with yourself and calling it research. It could all just be much ado about nothing.

But anyways...Don't mind me, do carry on.

Brotherman
I think antilanguage has more of a basis in telepathy/intuition than it does posting on an internet forum...

Then why do they need symbology?

...it is a shame we can not read what they have to say about it in their own words as using words is kind of counter intuitive to having an anti language wouldnt you agree?

Hence, the curiosity. It's human nature. Heck, they even encoded a post about the Chinese language that was unique and yet still felt the need to build in a code.

It intrigued them, why not us?