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posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by tetra50
...and feel bad I may have chased others off......

Nobody has chased me off this thread! GREAT artwork from Tetra and Kantzveldt, too!! I also appreciate Kantzveldt's reply to me....I'm just busy with the whole Syria question and RL at the moment.

Schwarzenegger y'all........you know: I'll be back!




posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 07:13 PM
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Thanks, from me at least, Gut. And I know Kantz will appreciate your positive affirmation, as well. Understand, clearly, what you are busy with, and it is definitively, perhaps, superceding. But I am through on this thread. This will be my last post, cause you're a good man and had something positive to say, I felt a reply necessary.

The thread, as I said, taught me alot. But as per my recent reaching out and private messages, I will no longer engage here. Thanks everyone for helping to teach me, though all our conclusions and learning may be different, after all...... Cheers and much love.....I wanted to give you A Brand New Day...but I couldn't find a good link....so for our brothers in the ME, for this is the only music I have to express the beauty you possess, I'll leave you with Desert Rose, instead:

Tetra
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ETA: Well, I tried twice to fix this link to Sting's song, A Brand New Day, thought it was very fitting here.....but wouldn't let me do it. How lame a note to leave you all on....please forgive......and listen to the song on your own, as it the spirit in which I leave this thread, in thanks.......
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Okay, well apologies, peeps.... This link doesn't work, either. I am not the administrator of the comp I am working on, so please forgive. Listen to either song, already....they're beautiful.
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posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 08:48 AM
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Course i do, i'm a very appreciative and mature well balanced person...








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posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 08:59 AM
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Was this the Brand New Day you wanted?




...And I always Dream of Rain in the Desert...

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posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 04:42 PM
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The latest Cassini-Diskus is an image

Why an Image?


Cassini-Diskus (CD) Also changed recently from this pattern

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To this...

◂ ◎ ▪ ◢ ◄ ◢ ◙ ◥ ◨ ◈ ◊ ◣ ◈◃ ▰ ◀ ◢ ◍ ▨ ◬ ▩ ◛ ◖ ◣ ◘ ◖ ◬ ◅ ◧ ▱ ▨ ► ◗ ▻ ◗ ▻ ◎ ◥ ▿ ◗ ▪ ▦ ◂ ◥ ▩ ◎ ◑ ▢ ◘ ◣ ◂ ▪ ▯ ◓ ▲ ◔ ▹ ◧ ◔■ ▹ ◢ ◌ ◀ ◓ ◩ ◛ ◎ ◥ △ ◛ ◄ ▢ ◄ ◛ ▯ ▸ ◭ ◣ ◍ ◚ ◓ ◥ ◤ ▹ ◌ ◔ & ▱ ◂ ◐ ◈ ◔< ◩ ◁ ▩ ◥ ▾ ◓ ▪ ◇ ◐ ◈ ▥ ◖ ▩ ◛ ◚ ► ◢ ◂ ◣ ◎ ◦ ◣ ◛ ■ ▵ ◓< ▧ ◐ ▩ ◥ ▥ ◆ ◧ ◯ ● ◎ ◥ ◖ △ □ ▼ ▷ ◫ ◍ ◁ ◇ ◉ ◙ ◙ ▻ ◓ ◁ ◖ △ ◥ ▹ ▯ ◂ ◇ ◁ ◣ ▣ ◙◁ ◃ ◓ ▪ ◌ ◁ ◃ ◐ ▸ ◇ ◁ ◛ ▯ ▹ ◁ ◥ ◙ ◎ ▽ ◣ ◂ ◖ ◦

A subtle difference, but these are not the same characters. It makes me wonder why they shifted the text and then went to an image to encode it why not type it out?. CD is a written language and uses Unicode or I wouldn't be able to copy it and paste it in here.

Creating a Unicode font is relatively easy, as is making it in color. Having it transfer to each text editor is a bit more tricky.

Placing the text in an image adds yet another layer of complexity and it keeps a bot from crawling the text, but you could use an OCR program. Scan the image transfer the text into characters and then decode the characters.

It is very possibly they are worried about an Ant or Web Crawler picking up correlations and similarities with other pages about CD. These similarities could then be used to create a cypher and the decode CD, or perhaps they felt someone was figuring out the code...

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posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 05:40 PM
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abeverage
The latest Cassini-Diskus is an image

Why an Image?


Cassini-Diskus (CD) Also changed recently from this pattern

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To this...

◂ ◎ ▪ ◢ ◄ ◢ ◙ ◥ ◨ ◈ ◊ ◣ ◈◃ ▰ ◀ ◢ ◍ ▨ ◬ ▩ ◛ ◖ ◣ ◘ ◖ ◬ ◅ ◧ ▱ ▨ ► ◗ ▻ ◗ ▻ ◎ ◥ ▿ ◗ ▪ ▦ ◂ ◥ ▩ ◎ ◑ ▢ ◘ ◣ ◂ ▪ ▯ ◓ ▲ ◔ ▹ ◧ ◔■ ▹ ◢ ◌ ◀ ◓ ◩ ◛ ◎ ◥ △ ◛ ◄ ▢ ◄ ◛ ▯ ▸ ◭ ◣ ◍ ◚ ◓ ◥ ◤ ▹ ◌ ◔ & ▱ ◂ ◐ ◈ ◔< ◩ ◁ ▩ ◥ ▾ ◓ ▪ ◇ ◐ ◈ ▥ ◖ ▩ ◛ ◚ ► ◢ ◂ ◣ ◎ ◦ ◣ ◛ ■ ▵ ◓< ▧ ◐ ▩ ◥ ▥ ◆ ◧ ◯ ● ◎ ◥ ◖ △ □ ▼ ▷ ◫ ◍ ◁ ◇ ◉ ◙ ◙ ▻ ◓ ◁ ◖ △ ◥ ▹ ▯ ◂ ◇ ◁ ◣ ▣ ◙◁ ◃ ◓ ▪ ◌ ◁ ◃ ◐ ▸ ◇ ◁ ◛ ▯ ▹ ◁ ◥ ◙ ◎ ▽ ◣ ◂ ◖ ◦

A subtle difference, but these are not the same characters. It makes me wonder why they shifted the text and then went to an image to encode it why not type it out?. CD is a written language and uses Unicode or I wouldn't be able to copy it and paste it in here.

Creating a Unicode font is relatively easy, as is making it in color. Having it transfer to each text editor is a bit more tricky.

Placing the text in an image adds yet another layer of complexity and it keeps a bot from crawling the text, but you could use an OCR program. Scan the image transfer the text into characters and then decode the characters.

It is very possibly they are worried about an Ant or Web Crawler picking up correlations and similarities with other pages about CD. These similarities could then be used to create a cypher and the decode CD, or perhaps they felt someone was figuring out the code...

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I think it could easily be considered to be an evolution, new parameters introduced to the base code as it were. I can't see how, given the way they actually form their "languages", that anything like a "decipher" of the cypher could be created, as they use parameters that are "placed" by the user right? R.E. let's take a base language of Portuguese. Let's now add a second language of English. Let's now choose the frequency of noun/adjective/verb etc. Let's now add ...paste here any other parameters you wish. I can't see how this type of code could be cracked without access to the basic input parameters. Just an opinion though.
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As to why they have loaded it as an image file rather than a "usable" file, that is quite interesting. More enigmas then, or perhaps just a mistake on upload. Has anyone tried to find the image anywhere else on the site as an "original" usable file? If it isn't available as such, and isn't corrected, maybe it could be considered to be the final image couldn't it? "template" anyone?
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posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 12:55 AM
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Okay, I have spent the past 8 hours cramped up on my couch making my way thru the best reading, research, thinking, pondering, conjecturing, and theorizing that I've ever found anywhere!

I have nothing to add right at the moment except - please, please, don't everyone go away and drop it all now that I've managed to get caught up...begging...



posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 09:21 AM
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it is odd makes for difficult analysis but not impossible



posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 09:51 AM
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The symbols overlap upon closer inspection. Layers? They are also more complicated than the previous shapes, with slight variations in shading, pixilation, etc.

There are "double helix" lines possibly? I don't know - I'm just fascinated by looking at it! The black triangle in the middle is a strong focal point, followed by the black square. I'm thinking 3D on 2D or some such - does that even make sense?? Or wave forms? I'm just throwing stuff out - you guys are better at this than I am...

peace,

AB
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posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 10:07 AM
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I had the same thoughts, it seems to me it is an image that is being translated as sound I think it is meant to be funny too.

When i look at it I can only wonder it sounds like



posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 01:33 PM
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Something Direne said that I don't think anyone else picked up on, not sure where in the thread it is, I jotted it down during my marathon thread reading session last night...

In describing the Cassini Diskus, she says it is:

"A device to encode information using sound and images and transmitting that encoded information into a signal that is then transmitted at a frequency of 27 Hz and/or 12.704 GHz"

Here's the freaky part: she mentions, in a way that really seem unintentional - as if she's trying to educate rather then give information (this part is not directly quoted in my notes, so wording is off, but you get the gist)

...27 Hz is in the beta range which relates to anxiety and compulsive behavior while 12.704 GHz is related to inducing chemical reactions with sound...

That looks very DARPA oriented to me.
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posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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I think perhaps if you are interested in this aspect you may find that language landscapes and xenolinguistics would be a great place to start reading, I wonder if certain frequencies are more or less perceptive between species and more or less condusive through space over time



posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 01:52 PM
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I dont know if this is applicable to anything you are looking at or are interested in with regards to this thread but I have found this resource very helpful

Link

Also this link I highly recommend almost seems like something FL is into

Link
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posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 03:08 PM
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Thank you Brotherman...

Actually, I was more interested (concerned actually) by the fact that according to Direne's description, Cassini Diskus could be used to affect people negatively both mentally - the sound switching a person's brainwaves to beta in order to 'cause' anxiety or compulsive behavior - and physically (inducing chemical changes in the body? What kind of changes? Inexplicable pain?).

I would like to say (I hope you don't mind) I found it wrong that people were trying to engage you in talking about aspects of the FL people and their work that you did not wish to discuss and then getting angry at you for not wanting to discuss those aspects...
You bring so much pertinent information to the table, and I think that their harassment on the matter showed both a lack of appreciation and a lack of empathy....



posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 03:22 PM
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Thank you for the links...good info. Funny, on the second link, I was able to bypass the "log-in" page by going down and clicking on the NSF logo....



posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by lostgirl
Something Direne said that I don't think anyone else picked up on, not sure where in the thread it is, I jotted it down during my marathon thread reading session last night...

In describing the Cassini Diskus, she says it is:

"A device to encode information using sound and images and transmitting that encoded information into a signal that is then transmitted at a frequency of 27 Hz and/or 12.704 GHz"

Here's the freaky part: she mentions, in a way that really seem unintentional - as if she's trying to educate rather then give information (this part is not directly quoted in my notes, so wording is off, but you get the gist)

...27 Hz is in the beta range which relates to anxiety and compulsive behavior while 12.704 GHz is related to inducing chemical reactions with sound...



From what I have read, sound frequencies of 27 Hz are related to improved information retention, problem solving and analytical skills, but they can be used to counteract anxiety and compulsive behaviour.

Sound has been used since, well, forever, to induce fear and negativity, for crowd control, rioting, and of course, war itself...but I think what Direne was discussing was the reverse of that, using sound to improve comprehension and to induce a receptive state.

Obviously, you could use that receptiveness to promote apathy and indifference, which would be one of the negative implications, but primarily, it serves as a means of calming the subject and making them easier to educate. Or, for the sake of argument, to brainwash them. Basically, rather than previous methods of sound abuse, which are designed to quicken the heart and breathing, filling the mind, disallowing mental clarity thus inducing anxiety leading the subject to crack under the pressure and breaking them prior to re-programming, the 27 hz sounds would lull the subject into a semi-hypnotic state that would make them much more passively receptive to such change. But as easily and more frequently, it can simply be used to benefit students taking examinations, or the such like.

The 12.704 GHz is more in the presumed 'healing' and 'spiritual' range I believe, so if it does induce chemical reactions, they are of a beneficial nature from what I have read.

I may have misunderstood though



posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by AboveBoard
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The black triangle in the middle is a strong focal point, followed by the black square. I'm thinking 3D on 2D or some such - does that even make sense?? Or wave forms? I'm just throwing stuff out - you guys are better at this than I am...

peace,

AB
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You have hit a nail there for me, the black triangle is very reminiscent of art, where a black or very dark purple area, often a triangle or suchlike is used to give depth to an image. Not sure if it means anything, as none of us can be sure about anything, but I do like the idea.

I obviously cut and pasted the reply to the original rather than the original, my mistake, apologies
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posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by lostgirl
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Thank you Brotherman...

Actually, I was more interested (concerned actually) by the fact that according to Direne's description, Cassini Diskus could be used to affect people negatively both mentally - the sound switching a person's brainwaves to beta in order to 'cause' anxiety or compulsive behavior - and physically (inducing chemical changes in the body? What kind of changes? Inexplicable pain?).

I would like to say (I hope you don't mind) I found it wrong that people were trying to engage you in talking about aspects of the FL people and their work that you did not wish to discuss and then getting angry at you for not wanting to discuss those aspects...
You bring so much pertinent information to the table, and I think that their harassment on the matter showed both a lack of appreciation and a lack of empathy....


For every curse a counter curse, for every piece of love a bit of hate...

I believe once you find a way to heal you also discover a way to inflict pain. Find the cure to cancer and you have also found the cause.

As typical the latest FL post directly links what has been and is currently being discussed on ATS, on the topics of Autism and Cassini-Diskus...

Mentioned at the beginning of post Barbara Maria Stafford investigates the connections of media on emotions and mental imagery.

*WARNING* I do not have any control or enough knowledge about the following videos and imagery.

Following the bread crumbs lead me to Sound Visions

In the thesis by Rachael Linton she gives a overview of mind, body and sound connections and how the Visual presentation she gave made people Feel uneasy….but also feel good!

On the video page linked above I found this interesting...

If you know anything about esoteric beliefs you will see the Vesica Pisces in the form of Red Sphere and Blue Sphere coming together until finally they become one as
a Purple Sun...



At this point I could digress into the Red Pill verses the Blue Pill and the dichotomy within our dualistic world. Or how those 2 colors


make us believe we are seeing an extra dimension on a flat screen.



We are manipulated into a false belief of the Red & Blue States (here in the USA) or in the media Entertainment with Teal & Orange but many others and I mean To Many! to the point It has become its own trope...

Back from the digress, Her videos have been shown in Soul Dome at Brighton Fringe in England recently. You will notice there are age requirements for certain viewings with in the dome. And

I am oh so curious about a SOUL...dome. To bad I was not in England to see this.

*END WARNING*

I have yet to fully read the article I provided, but I do believe it is along the lines of what FL has posted and that this is a way to heal minds and people. However I add that if you have the means to heal, you may also have the means to harm...
edit on 7-9-2013 by abeverage because: I likes to tidy up a bit!



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 11:16 AM
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Thank you for posting that link to FL's article (Geometric Shapes and Emotional States: Cassini Diskus and its cognitive significance - Autism Barrier: breaking on through to the other side) As you know, anything relating to autism and potential healing methods is of great interest to me!

I've reviewed the English portion of it, which feels fragmentary, but it is an interesting line of inquiry. I wish I could read the rest of the article, dang it!! The Bibliography is very interesting as well. Something to ponder. I will follow what crumbs I can... It is always wise to move with caution when a technology can potentially influence / entrain one's consciousness or even restructure one's thinking.

I have a wild idea that Cassini Diskus may be an attempt to entrain another person/being to a message/experience - to communicate on such a level that you may tap the information/experience Directly, without the boxes of language, thus eliminating the barrier between people/species. Wild idea. Poorly articulated perhaps...

peace,
AB



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 12:52 PM
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There are considerations of transition through all stages of nature in terms of a continuum, alchemy of sorts, correspondent to 4-8-16-32-64 directionalism



as i pointed out here;



But what is involved with the eight directional can be a geocentric focal point or a Cosmological one, as in a star, and there is also concern with interaction of eight elementals.

and one finds that Venus was capable of reflecting all aspects;

If Venus wears a black crown - Saturn stands in front of her
If Venus wears a white crown - Jupiter stands in front of her
If Venus wears a green crown - Mars stands in front of her
If Venus wears a red crown - Mercury stands in front of her
If Venus wears a rainbow crown - a rainbow lies crosswise in front of her
If Venus wears the Sun's crown - she becomes very bright, Saturn stands in front of her
If Venus wears the Moon's crown - she is very small, Mercury stands in front of her


And thus in a sense Inanna could be seen as a great Alchemical Queen, the eighth level of a ziggurat would of course be the Earth that it stands upon, though also note in the listing a rainbow is mentioned rather than Venus wearing the Venus crown which obviously she does.

In this one sees that Inanna is perhaps a sort of cosmic catalyst, that is her propensity toward making things happen and situations to develop, and that she determines the flow and interaction of the spiritual aspects of the Celestial Rulers.

Gold - Sun/Šamaš -------- Gold
Silver - Moon/Sin --------- Silver
Light Red - Mercury/Nabû - Copper?
Blue - Venus/Ištar -------- Lapis
Dark Red - Mars/Nergal --- Red gold?
Black - Saturn/Ninurta ----- Lead
White - Jupiter/Marduk ---- Electrum?



The Alchemical Ziggurat






This can be in positive terms or negative, the entire system has retrograde balance, if you consider the potential for 8 positive aspects then by default you get the potential for a further 8 negative, so the essence of the 8 elemental stages of transition system was 16

Secrets of Heaven


Or maybe it's just a nice pattern





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