The Language of Vampyr

reply to post by Brotherman



I considered it the case about 65 pages back that the subject was becoming to complex and wide ranging for most to readily follow, and that it would degenerate into confusion, so i was surprised many managed to hang on in there so long.


The opening premise was correct in that the concern here is with Vampiric Demons of inner space, the quantum level, there is no concern with nuts and bolt aliens of outer space on the part of FL, it is the inter dimensional variety, that are considered to manifest in some way through feeding off psychic energies.

Attempting to create a programme in the form of Cassini Diskus to communicate with such is still to my mind sensational, but very much in keeping with the traditions found in the esoteric lore they so avidly study.

Many who have studied the UFO phenomena conclude that it is entirely derivative of traditional Demonic manifestation, and that the promotion of potential visitors from outer space through the mass media facilitates activities at the spiritual level, the one feeding off the other.

There is then disinformation propagated with regards to the extra-terrestrial, just as there is disinformation propagated with regards to there being such a thing as a 'vampiric language', reliant upon the naivete of the targetted individuals.


The realm of primordial chaos is as one might expect not very good at formulating plans, in essence the aspects of it are as it were purely 'instinct' driven, just as a blood crazed vampire simply cannot help itself, to use the metaphor, which is all it is.


They can however be introduced and their associated behavioral patterns infused into an unsuspecting population, for the purpose of rendering such incapable of behaving in any rational or constructive manner, the tradition of the servile summoned Demon to be used to further ones ends.

Of course it takes a particular sort of focused mind to engage in such activities, yet certain Brotherhoods have long dabbled in the diabolical arcane.

reply to post by Kantzveldt


Subtext, subtext... but what IS said puzzles me. Or at least requires some clarification... for me, anyway.

Where did you (and whomever else) get the idea that A) They are focusing on the daemonic realm and B) the denizens of said realm exist on a quantum level ...if quantum is understood (or at least partially) as relating to the newer physics on the level of the very small and not the literal meaning of 'quantum' as a unit of measurement?

I'm not trying to be difficult, merely curious... or more correctly, thick. I guess I could add the question ... was it said they were delving into the traditionally occult realm of spiritual intelligences as opposed to biological beings beyond Betelgeuse, or is it more of a conglomerate impression formed over time and growing familiarity?

I mean, I see the occult overtones... heck, any fool could see it... but is there a specific instance that clued you in?

And if this was clearly outlined in pages 1 - 70, I plead an undisciplined mind, lack of higher levels of certain areas of formal education and literal kilos of strange, mind bending substances and apologize.

Originally posted by Baddogma
reply to post by Kantzveldt

 

Subtext, subtext... but what IS said puzzles me. Or at least requires some clarification... for me, anyway.

Where did you (and whomever else) get the idea that A) They are focusing on the daemonic realm and B) the denizens of said realm exist on a quantum level ...if quantum is understood (or at least partially) as relating to the newer physics on the level of the very small and not the literal meaning of 'quantum' as a unit of measurement?

I'm not trying to be difficult, merely curious... or more correctly, thick. I guess I could add the question ... was it said they were delving into the traditionally occult realm of spiritual intelligences as opposed to biological beings beyond Betelgeuse, or is it more of a conglomerate impression formed over time and growing familiarity?

I mean, I see the occult overtones... heck, any fool could see it... but is there a specific instance that clued you in?

And if this was clearly outlined in pages 1 - 70, I plead an undisciplined mind, lack of higher levels of certain areas of formal education and literal kilos of strange, mind bending substances and apologize.

Probably I am not the best mind on this thread to answer your observant questions; however, I am compelled to try. There are the videos. Having said that, I haven't watched them, only read the descriptions, and therefore, need not watch something hypnotic combined with flashing lights and trance like fixating music that is known, scientifically, neurologically to spur possible entrainment already in existence in one's brain or to implant such. As one member said specifically, and I know exactly what that member meant, what sometimes is seen, cannot be unseen. But there are much larger implications there, which I don't want to get into here.

That's dealing with what you asked about the assumptions about demonic realms. Certain things, visualized, are inherently obvious.

Then there is the committment to anti-language: per their spokesperson: as I understand it: the development of a language, or nonlanguage, (perhaps telecommunication, brain to brain, mind to mind or otherwise) which will be understood by those "in the know" but no one else around them, physically. Think about that for a moment. That means, inherently, I want to talk to my "tribe" (i.e., believers and travelers with me on my journey sharing the same life values, or death values, judgements, etc.) without anyone else around us understanding. Does that not seem somewhat, at least, nefarious to you?

But there are many levels, obviously to this group. I don't need to click on a link to understand that. Or watch a video and see what I cannot unsee, that infects my dreams at night.

Then we have Nodespace, their software program, for language, communication, narrative collection, causal and cultural factors and differences and reactions. I posted on this forum because I recognized the screenshot of what Nodespace looked like, researched it, and as I suspected, it was developed through subcontracting through DARPA, which is very deep into what I describe above....about narrative collection, language, modes of communication, and how to effect and predict.......

Though the demonic layers may hide true "research," it does seem to be all connected.....it is a favorite of those who have certain pursuits which are not intended to benefit everyone equally, to put it out there right in front of those they mean the worst to, in advertising, in symbols, etc.......

Perhaps this is not an answer enough for you....but I have tried my best, and I do believe I understand what is going on. But who knows? I got called ignorant on another thread today, so whatever.

But if you think you know, and truly care, you almost have to speak about it, if you are to hold onto any of your character within the present environment.
Sincerely,
Tetra50

reply to post by tetra50


Actually, a succinct, cogent answer... thank you. I see. Part of the problem was the "hidden" portions of this thread that exist as (formerly or pre-internet) occult understanding and were alluded to with what I felt was unnecessary coyness... it implied much but said little.

I'd like more meat to my answer from other luminaries, too, but thanks... that helped.

The connections to the darker corporate interests are certainly provocative, and in light of FL's focus, I guess being coy might be the wiser course... but I've always been the blundering fool who's the last to see the elephant in the room as I'm too focused on the mice in the corners... and elephants have nothing to fear from mice befriending fools.

Originally posted by Baddogma
reply to post by tetra50

 

Actually, a succinct, cogent answer... thank you. I see. Part of the problem was the "hidden" portions of this thread that exist as (formerly or pre-internet) occult understanding and were alluded to with what I felt was unnecessary coyness... it implied much but said little.

I'd like more meat to my answer from other luminaries, too, but thanks... that helped.

The connections to the darker corporate interests are certainly provocative, and in light of FL's focus, I guess being coy might be the wiser course... but I've always been the blundering fool who's the last to see the elephant in the room as I'm too focused on the mice in the corners... and elephants have nothing to fear from mice befriending fools.

No, my friend, you are justified in your answers as it is a long and complicated thread and subject matter.....i just merely tried to fill in some gaps as I you expressed them. It doesn't mean I am right, by any means. Keep looking and searching, but keep what I say in mind, at the same time.
Tetra

reply to post by Baddogma


Demons don't exist at the quantum level or any other, the concern there is always going to be with phenomena that are non-existential, chaotic relationships based upon entanglement rather than absolute Ordering.

Things that are outside of all rationale are not easily explained as i'm sure you appreciate, but the concern is with how our realm of stable existence and Order is founded upon the ever shifting sands as it were of the quantum, it's a concern with patterns and how they can interact.

In looking at traditional mysticism and Demonolgy, rites and rituals, incantations and invocations, they study the patterns and methodology involved, aspects of sound and vision, repetition, rhythm, to understand what could give rise to an individual making contact with the realm of Primordial Chaos, and under what conditions and in what manner will this manifest itself into the realm of our existence.

The essence of such inter-connectivity is communication and language, how is the one making contact with the other and establishing a relationship, how does one first become entangled with the Demonic being the starting premise for many an occultic yarn...

reply to post by Kantzveldt


Thank you, Kantz, that helped, too. I'm able to add context and piece together more of the picture... and understand the term "quantum's" context now... and attach it to a certain uncertainty.

Playing with unknown, powerful forces is akin to leaving toddlers with dynamite and blasting caps... but after the dust settles, something will have learned... no?

Although I understand your frame of reference, I would suggest that those non-existent demons, or more correctly daimons, can sometimes leave welts... both metaphorically and literally upon one's baby smooth dermis... though I gather you know that, too, in one sense or another.

Thanks for the time and a fine, fine thread.

Almost looks like I could've of skipped to this last page and just jumped right in. Good conversation going. Okay, I can resist no longer. I'm digging in. I'll be back.

reply to post by The GUT


Heh, I was hoping some guts would slop in... there are some gems in these pages... real fascination that put a gleam in my eye as when a true work of human genius is experienced (and has added enough extracurricular reading material to my list to last until death and beyond). That "genius" I refer to is found both in some of our posters and very certainly in the work of the people of FL... despite any darkness mixed with light.

And the subject matter, especially the stuff only (mostly) alluded to, is right up The Guts digestive alley. I await collation and digestion of this material.

I will say this: Ayndryl's first--and form-letter email--certainly got me intellectually erect. Ahem...what nice big brains you have, mama. Not just your knowledge of linguistics as relates to to socio-history, but your ability to render such a complex, and vast knowledge, in easy, understandable terms. That's the mark of a truly exceptional mind.

It's also a trait of those who have had to write compelling grants and also explain it to policy planners in a way that they might, hopefully, understand outside their own realm of expertise. Not that her facility for superb communication stems from that, but keep it in mind.

"Anti-language," obviously, is the lingui-philosophical concept that's on the tip of her brilliant, and deep, mental tongue. She knows she--and others--are on the verge of a breakthrough…but that aspect is "unutterable" at this point.

That 'tip-o-the-mental-tounge' phenomena seems to precede most superior "breakthroughs." Maybe she will require, even, possibly, a deeper, and more spiritually and homogenous, language? It certainly suggests someone that was "mesmerized" by "deconstructionism" at some point before they themselves took it to the next level.

The Tower of Babel meets New Atlantis meets the Alphabets. Understand those descriptors are just "place-holders" to get my initial thoughts across. It's all there, however…just probably not as traditionally organized as some might like and, as such, a tangled web that doesn't point to one easy explanation or understanding. Compartementalization also comes to mind.

There is nobility here. But in the same way that the naive have always wished for a better world and have proffered their philosophical offerings: Democracy, Socialism, Communism, etc. all beautiful in the initial rhetoric, we should keep in mind that the basic theory here could produce a language that leaves no room for "counter" thinking.

For example, a "language" could be created that doesn't have a concept for "hate," which is admirable, but at the same time leaves no room for "questioning the party line." Like I said; the New Atlantis.

Whether Ayndryl is a puppet for the hoped-for future language that can "unite" mankind in the globalists' wet-dream, or whether she has been surreptitiously co-opted remains to be seen.

"Ayndryl"…do keep the "Ayn" part as a possible clue for now. I'd also guess that "Ayndryl" has experienced a valid "initiation at depth." That's just a guess for now. It also shouldn't suggest that I see an entirely "occult," or esoteric, explanation of what we are looking at here…but it's not a totally divorced aspect of, at least, some of the players in this field and where they're coming from.

I'm only at pg 20, and going out on a limb here, so it will be interesting to see if I change my assessment, but I will say, yes…this probably is one of the most important threads ever produced here.

Last note before diving back in: There are multi-levels to this material it seems. Certainly the IBIDS are important clues here, and I don't suggest Ayndryl's expertise and thrust is the only spoke of the wagon wheel…although it probably is one of the most important parts.

Originally posted by sadybull
Ok this topic made me register here. So i did a little searching for this ayndryl person. Here is a link of her posting in a forum about this experiment a few years ago. Anyone catch this???


lingvoforum.net...

Heres another forum where this person posted. Just want to throw these clues out there and get to the bottom of this. I read this person saying something to the tune of learning two languages without hearing someone speak a single word of it. Pretty brilliant individual.

uztranslations.net.ru...

From your links:

...Demetrius, [from Ayndryl]

I totally agree with the conclusion of the article, that is: "Russian, as well as any other language, despite it’s obvious and unquestionable virtues, is by no means an ideal mirror for reflecting reality". In fact, there is a school of thought that holds that language "infects" reality…

...Your statement related to the dependency of words on culture has been, and is, thoroughly researched by Anna Wierzbicka. You can find her books in the internet, too. My example on Russian was taken from her. Your question on whether there is any proof that the feelings of a Lakota and a Russian are different in any way has a positive answer: there are proofs. There are cognitive tests that consistently prove a speaker of a certain language perceives reality in a different way than a speaker of another language. I know this sounds somehow shocking, but it is that way.

I don't understand your last statement: "language doesn’t neccessarily correspond to our feelings". Unless a speaker wishes to lie, we have to accept that anything that it is said it is also meant, I mean, you say what you mean, otherwise communication would be impossible. Your article makes the point: there are feelings for which we do not have words. There are emotions for which we have no words. But the results from Wierzbicka's research is even more radical: there are speakers from a certain language that do have emotions that speakers of another language do not. This is baffling, but true.


lingvoforum.net...

And then more, THIS, in addition. from Ayndryl:

RE: Bibles and Qurans
Alexius,

Genesis 11:1 talks about the Tower of Babel and the many-languages punishment. Genesis 10:5 states that many languages were already in existence. Because Genesis 10:5 precedes in time Genesis 11:1, it is of necessity concluded that your god came late in punishing mankind with the many-languages terror: mankind was already speaking different languages.

Of course, this is just one of the many inconsistencies in the bible. It also means that men and women were skilled enough to build the tower of babel even when they were already speaking quite different languages...

About your god being omnipotent, I disagree. You see, I can or cannot believe, while he cannot believe: he knows.

One cannot 'believe' that oneself exists: one 'knows' it. For god, the possibility of believing does not exist. Obviously. Therefore, you see, I cannot consider omnipotent a god that cannot believe in himself, for obvious reasons.

Lastly, god does not need a language. It is Adam who needs it.

And you should consider also this fact: 90% of the species that your god created are now extinct. This makes a success rate of just a mere 10%. Would you trust in his design with such a low success rate? I certainly not.

uztranslations.net.ru...

There's a pattern here y'all.

Originally posted by The GUT
Almost looks like I could've of skipped to this last page and just jumped right in. Good conversation going. Okay, I can resist no longer. I'm digging in. I'll be back.

Knowing you, Gut, I can't wait for you to jump in.....
Tetra

Originally posted by Baddogma
reply to post by The GUT

 

Heh, I was hoping some guts would slop in... there are some gems in these pages... real fascination that put a gleam in my eye as when a true work of human genius is experienced (and has added enough extracurricular reading material to my list to last until death and beyond). That "genius" I refer to is found both in some of our posters and very certainly in the work of the people of FL... despite any darkness mixed with light.

And the subject matter, especially the stuff only (mostly) alluded to, is right up The Guts digestive alley. I await collation and digestion of this material.

Second you strongly, Baddogma. But have to give it up for Kantz. Comprehension of subject matter, writing and expression, sound perspective and research, and assimilation and dissemination of subject matter beyond what I read here, usually, to the nth degree. And so, OP, I thank you for the thread, and how much you have done to inform us, as well as other threads of yours I have now begun to explore, because of this one.
Tetra50

reply to post by The GUT


Okay, Gut, this is a fascinating, obviously, and quite serious topic, but I needed a laugh today badly, and you just gave it to me....thanks so much for this, below:

I will say this: Ayndryl's first--and form-letter email--certainly got me intellectually erect. Ahem...what nice big brains you have, mama.

reply to post by The GUT

"Anti-language," obviously, is the lingui-philosophical concept that's on the tip of her brilliant, and deep, mental tongue. She knows she--and others--are on the verge of a breakthrough…but that aspect is "unutterable" at this point. That 'tip-o-the-mental-tounge' phenomena seems to precede most superior "breakthroughs." Maybe she will require, even, possibly, a deeper, and more spiritually homogenous, language? It certainly suggests someone that was "mesmerized" by "deconstructionism" at some point before they themselves took it to the next level. The Tower of Babel meets New Atlantis meets the Alphabets. Understand those descriptors are just "place-holders" to get my initial thoughts across. It's all there, however…just probably not as traditionally organized as some might like and, as such, a tangled web that doesn't point to one easy explanation or understanding. Compartementalization also comes to mind. There is nobility here. But in the same way that the naive have always wished for a better world and have proffered their philosophical offerings: Democracy, Socialism, Communism, etc. all beautiful in the initial rhetoric,

Brilliant summation here of what is going on, and the allusion, as well, to the layers involved here, and what they may mean. But this statement of yours says it better than I ever could, and has been my "pounding away point"
(forgive, please, I am truly totally committed for the well being of all to this concept, for my pounding anything ever: Also, your last sentence here sums up quite nicely what I would describe as a kind of BAIT, using that nobility, and our human, naive wish for that better world, while offering something that, once involved, may actually be anything but.......for in practice on this thread, as well as the website, it is obvious there is a quite exploitive process going on here....whether to collect energy, engender belief, or use neuroscience of individuals' brains and hypnotic entrainment to accomplish certain of their goals.

we should keep in mind that the basic theory here could produce a language that leaves no room for "counter" thinking.

And the whole point here is it is not meant to allow for that. And not only that (and forgive me,Gut, if I haven't read further yet enough but I think this point is worth stressing repeatedly), layers may be hiding some "true" research, but the point of an anti-language within a group of people whom only certain chosen ones have the translation and capacity and ability, is obviously, nefarious. As Kantz has stated, this truly is about making a demonic presence(s) real in a dimension it/he/she needs us or our energy to achieve.

Originally posted by tetra50
Okay, Gut, this is a fascinating, obviously, and quite serious topic, but I needed a laugh today badly, and you just gave it to me....thanks so much for this, below:

I will say this: Ayndryl's first--and form-letter email--certainly got me intellectually erect. Ahem...what nice big brains you have, mama.

It was a calculated--and sincere--flirtation. In conjunction with the rest of that post. We'll see if it works.

"Attractors" work regardless of intent. For example, a negative charge attracted to a superior positive force--or vice-versa--might like to resist, but...

Not that I'm assigning negative or positive roles here. Only that 'non-partial' physics works regardless of intent. Like I said, we'll see.

One can resist, but not deny, the dichotomous attractor. Shall we talk, Ms. Ayn? You probably haven't had a good, blood-stirring, pulse-thumping, debate in a fortnight, eh?

reply to post by The GUT

"Ayndryl"…do keep the "Ayn" part as a possible clue for now. I'd also guess that "Ayndryl" has experienced a valid "initiation at depth." That's just a guess for now. It also shouldn't suggest that I see an entirely "occult," or esoteric, explanation of what we are looking at here…but it's not a totally divorced aspect of, at least, some of the players in this field and where they're coming from. I'm only at pg 20, and going out on a limb here, so it will be interesting to see if I change my assessment, but I will say, yes…this probably is one of the most important threads ever produced here. Last note before diving back in: There are multi-levels to this material it seems. Certainly the IBIDS are important clues here, and I don't suggest Ayndryl's expertise and thrust is the only spoke of the wagon wheel…although it probably is one of the most important parts.

"Ayn".....glad you brought that up. I was thinking she may be an intellectual, internet amalgam, of sorts, of identity of more than one person, but all with the same bent, shalll we say, pursuing the same research and goals.

I, too, Gut, took apart her name like this in reading the responses, and thought about this possibility. Ayn as in
Ayn Rand, mother of libertarianism, but also, anyone so inclined should research the Rand part, as well. Rand McNally, Rand Atlas, Rand Maps and Travel Guides.......Then we have the "dril" part. Hmmmm..... Interesting, really, when you start taking apart words just on this simplistic, phoenetic level, and making historical and informational comparisons. Drilling for what lies underneath the sublayer of the earth, macro to micro, to the human mind, soul, consciousness, and using this energy for an exploitative purpose, once again, for I see this repetitive theme of that here, just in the naming of it as the Language of Vampyr. Nothing more exploitative than living off the most integral life force of certain beings: blood. And language, well, that throws it into a whole other quantum entanglement of energy, and the reapplication of it, once stolen and reattributed, does it not? As the anti-language, allowing for tribal type communication within a group not all joined on that same tribal level certainly suggests and even defines: We want to be amongst you, whilst the rest of you know not what we are about......
Tetra50

As always your comments are stellar.
just sayin'......I'm a fan.....

Originally posted by The GUT

Originally posted by sadybull
Ok this topic made me register here. So i did a little searching for this ayndryl person. Here is a link of her posting in a forum about this experiment a few years ago. Anyone catch this???


lingvoforum.net...

Heres another forum where this person posted. Just want to throw these clues out there and get to the bottom of this. I read this person saying something to the tune of learning two languages without hearing someone speak a single word of it. Pretty brilliant individual.

uztranslations.net.ru...

From your links:

...Demetrius, [from Ayndryl]

I totally agree with the conclusion of the article, that is: "Russian, as well as any other language, despite it’s obvious and unquestionable virtues, is by no means an ideal mirror for reflecting reality". In fact, there is a school of thought that holds that language "infects" reality…

...Your statement related to the dependency of words on culture has been, and is, thoroughly researched by Anna Wierzbicka. You can find her books in the internet, too. My example on Russian was taken from her. Your question on whether there is any proof that the feelings of a Lakota and a Russian are different in any way has a positive answer: there are proofs. There are cognitive tests that consistently prove a speaker of a certain language perceives reality in a different way than a speaker of another language. I know this sounds somehow shocking, but it is that way.

I don't understand your last statement: "language doesn’t neccessarily correspond to our feelings". Unless a speaker wishes to lie, we have to accept that anything that it is said it is also meant, I mean, you say what you mean, otherwise communication would be impossible. Your article makes the point: there are feelings for which we do not have words. There are emotions for which we have no words. But the results from Wierzbicka's research is even more radical: there are speakers from a certain language that do have emotions that speakers of another language do not. This is baffling, but true.


lingvoforum.net...

And then more, THIS, in addition. from Ayndryl:

RE: Bibles and Qurans
Alexius,

Genesis 11:1 talks about the Tower of Babel and the many-languages punishment. Genesis 10:5 states that many languages were already in existence. Because Genesis 10:5 precedes in time Genesis 11:1, it is of necessity concluded that your god came late in punishing mankind with the many-languages terror: mankind was already speaking different languages.

Of course, this is just one of the many inconsistencies in the bible. It also means that men and women were skilled enough to build the tower of babel even when they were already speaking quite different languages...

About your god being omnipotent, I disagree. You see, I can or cannot believe, while he cannot believe: he knows.

One cannot 'believe' that oneself exists: one 'knows' it. For god, the possibility of believing does not exist. Obviously. Therefore, you see, I cannot consider omnipotent a god that cannot believe in himself, for obvious reasons.

Lastly, god does not need a language. It is Adam who needs it.

And you should consider also this fact: 90% of the species that your god created are now extinct. This makes a success rate of just a mere 10%. Would you trust in his design with such a low success rate? I certainly not.

uztranslations.net.ru...

There's a pattern here y'all.

edit on 20-8-2013 by The GUT because: (no reason given)

Absolutely, and at least she is frank about it with those with the concentration and wherewithall to study and read and comprehend what she is saying....for it can become quite overwhelming and sinister, if taken quite literally.
She is last (I'm kind of backwards in my approach, forgive), suggesting "God" or this concept is extinct, and that this concept or being is either gone (as a being, or even chained or removed from his/her/its creation) to the point she will deduce and reduce this in mathematical perspectives.

Math is another representative language, remember. This person is all about language. Not only that, but percentages are completely malleable within the context of math, dependent upon information access and how much there is to draw from, and how those "probabilities" or "conclusions" are reached, to begin with, in order to represent it with a percentage. A percentage of what, exactly, is my point. Here, I feel, she betrays her obvious conclusion that most of us are inferior intellectually, for she has shortcutted here, logically, in a very big way, based only on the assumption that her and her groups' goals and perceptions are obviously superior to the common human.

Originally posted by The GUT

Originally posted by tetra50
Okay, Gut, this is a fascinating, obviously, and quite serious topic, but I needed a laugh today badly, and you just gave it to me....thanks so much for this, below:

I will say this: Ayndryl's first--and form-letter email--certainly got me intellectually erect. Ahem...what nice big brains you have, mama.

It was a calculated--and sincere--flirtation. In conjunction with the rest of that post. We'll see if it works.

"Attractors" work regardless of intent. For example, a negative charge attracted to a superior positive force--or vice-versa--might like to resist, but...

Not that I'm assigning negative or positive roles here. Only that 'non-partial' physics works regardless of intent. Like I said, we'll see.

One can resist, but not deny, the dichotomous attractor. Shall we talk, Ms. Ayn? You probably haven't had a good, blood-stirring, pulse-thumping, debate in a fortnight, eh?

edit on 20-8-2013 by The GUT because: (no reason given)

Ah, yes, I got the invitation to meet immediately, thus my winking icon.....such a clever man, you....would hate to meet you in a bar in a weak, lonely moment? LOL For you have the intellectual touch, and that, IMHO, is far more attractive than anything physical.

But this, first,:

. Your question on whether there is any proof that the feelings of a Lakota and a Russian are different in any way has a positive answer: there are proofs. There are cognitive tests that consistently prove a speaker of a certain language perceives reality in a different way than a speaker of another language. I know this sounds somehow shocking, but it is that way.

I find this directly applicable to Nodespaces, and its development and purpose, hidden deep within all these layers.
What proof? Where? What "cognitive tests," and where and who were they applied to. This is purposeful and manipulative subterfuge. Another layer explained, perhaps: vis a vis time travel......So you've personally talked to the Lakota, for there aren't many original, untouched by modern life left, huh?

So, I find this disengenuous, and perhaps relying upon research that this amalgamate of a "personality" may have even participated in to back up that concept right there, and so on, and so on.......

Obviously, the goal is "in your face," here: We have been further and more backward to research than whom we are speaking to, and are now just dissertating in order to achieve certain goals, and justify and apply our approach, which again, seems exploitative in nature, whether blood, energy, expression, creativity, consciousness....they are all the same in a way, though residing in very different parts of us physically, they come from and are linked to the same part of our humanity, are they not?