reply to post by Direne
You mentioned some things about altered states, trance etc which is not only a fascination of my own but how I make my living
I strongly advocate for the study of language in extreme scenarios: coma, altered state of consciousness, stress, schizophrenia, trance,
autistic individuals, etc.
If the brain adopts a given specific measurable configuration milliseconds before opening your mouth to pronounce a word, why pronouncing a
word at all? Couldn't be better to 'read' that neural configuration somehow? And, wouldn't be wonderful if you could read that neural configuration at
a distance? Same for images. If your brain takes a particular, measurable, configuration when exposed to an external image, wouldn't be better to
learn how to read that configuration in order to 'see' the image your communication partner is seeing mentally?
We feel that's possible. At least, we feel that's where evolution is leading us.
If this theory were to become reality through evolution and it were possible to achieve communication between two people with two entirely subjective
viewpoints without language.
This could be highly dangerous to our individuality.
We are highly influenced by language and images that we see. We are naturally hardwired to identify and form patterns to come to our own understanding
of experiences. The subconscious mind feeds our thoughts to the conscious mind based on everything that we see, hear, feel etc all throughout life.
Both deliberate influence and passive communications contain persuasion regardless of the intention.
This would lead to a reality that is currently objective and subjective becoming expressed in an entirely subjective manner without language or at
least an extremely one sided reality leaning towards subjectivity. It would be extremely hard for us (even more than it is right now) to tell the
difference between fact and fiction in a collective haze of thought for what of a better way to convey.
This is why we have a sub conscious and conscious mind, language is a helpful defence against brainwashing because we form our own images based on
what is communicated to us.
I agree that language makes it hard to convey experience but with everything else in mind, I believe that is why it is necessary and why we have the
barriers that language brings us.
I hope that makes sense and if it does not, do not blame me, blame the language
This thread has been a brilliant read, have not had time to fully read yet (thanks OP) and thank you for coming on the site to answer questions. One
thing I will say, if you guys succeed in finding a way to achieve this, you would be very powerful/dangerous regardless of the motive for doing so and
power does corrupt.
What do you think the language of the God's really is? (rhetorical question as I am sure you know all too well)
I would like to ask what an extreme scenario of language study involving trance would be?
edit on 18-7-2013 by XXXN3O because: (no reason