a reply to: StormyStars
It has been my experience that getting your thinking out of the box is not the difficult task. The mind that thought inside the box, is still the
mind that thinks when it finds itself outside of the box because it was conditioned and structured within the box, and it's ability to perceive the
what, whys and hows of all that is outside that box has to be re-developed and recalibrated, learnt from scratch, from the bottom up, in some
instances. There are no short cuts to that, otherwise you're just laying stuff on top, a new add-on to fix the bugs in the app when what you need is
a complete rewrite.
Hitler didn't do any genetic engineering. The Nazis like most other practitioners of Eugenics, at that time, didn't have enough understanding of
genetics to engineer anything or anyone. Their beliefs about racial superiority were fermented on pseudo-science developed as a means of justifying
white colonial superiority, for the purpose of putting down and subjugating native peoples and exploiting them economically and physically.
With the exception of those experiments carried out on Auschwitz inmates by Bayer as part of the IG Farben Group, which led to the development of
modern anesthetics, and the inhumane extreme conditions experiments conducted on Dachau inmates that enabled rapid post war development of the US
space programme, the Nazis were just playing with disposable populations and exercising personal expressions of sadism and prejudice. The Nazis did
not remove genetic groups, they removed cultural identities. It was all about appearances, nothing about what was on the inside. We have been,
collectively, stuck in that particular box for what seems like forever. Which brings me to another point.
Red-headed Scots aliens. Since Bybyots brought it up and because coincidentally my brother came to me yesterday afternoon having been doing some
reading up on the dispersal of red heads in the global genetic populations. We had been talking about it last week and come up with a few possible
hypotheses about where, how and why red heads might occur, so it was an extrapolation of that. Red heads are, at best guess, the result of a fairly
localised mutation that was, as a result of reproductive isolation was bred into a group, and subsequently was a trait that was sexually selected. We
thought it possible that the increased ability to absorb vitamin D due to the loss of pigmentation would have increased their strength and longevity.
In the northern regions, as the glaciers retreated, life got very competitive for those groups who's economies had depended on hunting and for a
people already adapted to harsh conditions, that change included a need to control reproduction, they most likely did this, archaeology suggests,
through competition for reproductive rights.
Long story short, when the first farmers arrived in the South of England, these little people whose genetic heritage was in the East, eventually met
with the local red headed giants. All the farmers, as they spread across Europe did, and parts of India too. These people liked each other and made
lots of babies together, it seems it was that way with the Neanderthal and Denisovians too, us humans aren't as fussy as we've been made out to be.
Side bar, my brother was explaining to me the Denisovian-AMM genetic diffusion. He was on a roll and describing where he saw the contact points etc,
and then how such and such would have gone in, raped and pillaged etc. I asked if I could just stop him a moment, and pointed out that more often
than not, sex occurs because both parties want to have sex, particular when social and moral guidelines are dust in the wind. Rape is also far less
likely to culminate in progeny and not often progeny that is wanted, or invested in.
To conclude, we all, animals, insects, even bacteria, come from the same mixing pot and things get interesting when it's stirred.