The Language of Vampyr

a reply to: Rosinitiate

Yes... that an intelligence organization is involved
is certainly no great surprise. Those spooks have
their heads sticking out of every mailbox and
every CPU chip with a back-door.

And spooks LOVE consciousness research and
the weaponization of it through EM and other
technologies.

Show me consciousness research, and I'll show
you

1) spooks (as in intelligence) and

2) spooks (of another kind).

And what's on the surface scarcely EVER
has any relevance to the meat of it

(the magician/psy op angle).

Kev

a reply to: Kantzveldt

You are a font of knowledge on this.

I guess I'm intrigued with 'male moon gods', as I've seldom
seen 'male moon gods' as the moon is a symbol of the
divine feminine in Hinduism and other cultures, and
the sun being divine male.

I had hoped you would have responded about the
Shekinah and how the Hebrews stole that concept
from some earlier culture.. it's such a delicous
dirty little secret that the emanation of the
glory of god is ..... female.

Kev

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Kantzveldt
the moon is a symbol of the divine feminine in Hinduism and other cultures, and
the sun being divine male.

Chandra/Soma

please, tell us moar about female hindu lunar deities, your kundalini expertise, your top-shelf ufologist connections and the super heavy research you aren't able to share w/ the rest of the class.

btw, to be frank, i'd be looking into corporate sources of funding as being more likely than state at this point, although the two tend to snarl together a lot.

originally posted by: ATODASO

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Kantzveldt
the moon is a symbol of the divine feminine in Hinduism and other cultures, and
the sun being divine male.

Chandra/Soma

please, tell us moar about female hindu lunar deities, your kundalini expertise, your top-shelf ufologist connections and the super heavy research you aren't able to share w/ the rest of the class.

btw, to be frank, i'd be looking into corporate sources of funding as being more likely than state at this point, although the two tend to snarl together a lot.

ATS and the world are big enough
for diverse people to discuss
diverse topics.

I welcome your pithy comments
on financial matters, spy agencies
fraud or whatever you like. I'm sure
it will be fascinating and informative.

That said, I'm enjoying learning
from Kantz and also BSing about
mythology and there is nothing
wrong with that.

As to confidentiality... well sorry
for having integrity...and sorry that
I don't want to wake up dead.

I promise I'm not puffing myself up
and acting mysterious to feed my
ego. I mostly feed my ego at work.

But if you didn't like me just ignore
me!

Best Regards,

Kev

originally posted by: ATODASO

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Kantzveldt
the moon is a symbol of the divine feminine in Hinduism and other cultures, and
the sun being divine male.

Chandra/Soma

btw, to be frank, i'd be looking into corporate sources of funding as being more likely than state at this point, although the two tend to snarl together a lot.

From your source:

In Vedic astrology Chandra represents brain and mind, emotions, sensitivity, softness, imagination, queen and mother.

Although he was male wouldn't the above represent the feminine?

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear

I promise I'm not puffing myself up
and acting mysterious to feed my
ego. I mostly feed my ego at work.

yikes, i thought this was your job. my point, which you tried to take the high road around, is that you make extraordinary claims about your expertise and connections in a wide array of areas, but either simply fail to back them up, claiming to protect your sources, or undermine them through frequent displays of total ignorance.

any info you do share you've cannibalized directly from other members on this forum, but you often spin those ideas to completely alter their context or distort their meaning.

that's not discussion, it's pool pissing, and it appears to be intentional. the results i got when running that stylometric tool against your work, once i adjusted for the colorful formatting trick with the margins, were... interesting.

But if you didn't like me just ignore
me!

roger that.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

if not outright masculine, hindu deities with lunar associations are gonna be hermaphroditic, which is probably a splice from aryan traditions.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

Well that's why I was asking Kantz
about that.

There is an interesting mystery there
I was not aware of.

An angry feminist mythological
conspiracy sounds fascinating
to me.

Kev

Duplicate post sorry.

a reply to: ATODASO

I can understand that and it would explain the affiliation.

a reply to: ATODASO

My old mentor taught me to learn
from others and then see if that
information could be enhanced or
used to spark other thinking.

I always praise and acknowledge
all original authors.

For example, in the Kundalini organization
I was part of, I was required to read several
dozen books and then to critique each
individual line.

It's how it's done in such organizations.

By the end I'd proven like 50% of the
teachers theories wrong which got me
thrown out of the organization after
many years.

I'm only interested in learning and
brainstorming.

If you don't like that....and If I don't
understand the hierarchal social
status structure niceties of ATS
very well....well I guess you will
have to deal with it.

Kev

a reply to: Serdgiam

I think we agree more than disagree. And I apologize for the harshness of my reply, and the use of the word, laughable.
Almost any advancement can be used for good or ill. While I do see the potential good this technology could be used for, I'm afraid I'm far too cynical about people's motivations to see that the good potential outweighs the bad.

Please know I meant no offense in my reply to you.
tetra

originally posted by: ATODASO

originally posted by: Anaana

Alongside that, annealing of narratives? Developing a robust, adaptable, meta- or grand-narrative would be very useful. I should imagine.

and that's why they need public input.

Precisely. And whom do we know has made quite a study of "narratives?"
Btw, I love your graphics. Both of those men are quite easy on the eyes……

a reply to: tetra50

Its all good tetra, I knew that our feelings lined up, overall. That's why I wrote that there book of a response!

I'm not even sure "cynicism" is the correct world.. The satisfaction of greed, in our cultural narrative, is too short sighted to yield anything else other than what we have. Maybe that's my own cynicism speaking..

I just feel it is important to address the aspects of our society that leads to such weaponization rather than the specific tools themselves.

For what its worth, I have considered the possibility similar weapons were used on myself.

Eta: I also have made a deep study of narratives, including their manipulation, in order to counter what is being done. For the most part, I feel its just reactionary and "natural" at this point in the generational timeline. However, some are likely quite conscious and deliberate in their actions.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: ATODASO

For example, in the Kundalini organization I was part of, I was required to read several dozen books and then to critique each individual line.

in old school hindu style traditions like yoga, that's exactly what happens. they drill you on the texts for years at a time, and you gotta comment on them. which is why when you display your ignorance on the topic by asserting something as fundamentally inaccurate as

the moon is a symbol of the divine feminine in Hinduism

.

i'm gonna assume you have not actually gone through that process. and then i'm gonna conclude that the entire, detail-loaded, but easily sourced stuff you asserted in your last post is an attempt to shore up your cred.

originally posted by: tetra50
Btw, I love your graphics. Both of those men are quite easy on the eyes……

And whom do we know has made quite a study of "narratives?"

well, tet, that's the problem. darpa isn't the only private or state entity getting in on this narrative hacking crap by a long shot. the field of candidates is broad, and there's a robust exchange between the private and public sectors both in terms of funding and personnel, which certainly doesn't help any when it comes time to narrow them down.

a reply to: ATODASO

Certainly Hinduism has some of the
'prettiest' male deities to be found
anywhere. Your comment about
hermaphroditic deities is certainly
not wrong.

I suppose we could have a long
conversation on this topic and
we could have competing
quotes and references.

But in the interests of attempting
to maximize honest discourse,
the (somewhat new agish)
organizations I was formerly
affiliated with taught mainly
from the male/female dualistic
perspective which did not focus
upon hermaphroditic perspectives,
being more influenced by Tantra.

Like anybody I speak from my
knowledge and experience, and
nowhere do I claim to be gods
gift to mythology...just refer
back a few posts to see my
admitting that.

Also if you wish I can provide
photos of me with some
'insiders' but I'd only provide
that to someone like springer
who I trust not to get me in
trouble.

But that said....

I find this entire conversation
rather mean spirited and devoid
of any value.

If you wish to prove to the world
what a blow hard I am...feel free.
I have no reputation to guard
and only care what my boss
and wife think of me.

I'll continue to be the exact same
person I am right now.... I sleep
very well at night and live with
no regrets.

And any time you feel that I'm
wrong feel free to speak up...
and if I'm wrong ill admit it.

Thanks for your concern.

Best regards,

Kev

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: ATODASO

Also if you wish I can provide
photos of me with some
'insiders'

not gonna hold my breath there, bud.

originally posted by: ATODASO

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: ATODASO

Also if you wish I can provide
photos of me with some
'insiders'

not gonna hold my breath there, bud.

I don't have Springers email address
but if he wants to participate I'll send
the photos and a copy of my drivers
license to him.

If I have one manipulatable fault it is
being called a liar.

Kev

a reply to: ATODASO

All of humanity should have a vested interest in the narrative, or cultural story. Not only because we are all the author, but also its impact in the creation and propagation of bias.

It happens regardless of whether or not we actively think about it, but perhaps it is time to begin consciously writing the story of our world.