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The Language of Vampyr

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posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 04:10 AM
Continued reading my mag and the other article that I thought might be relevant is very interesting. Not sure if any of you have online subscriptions to New Scientist or it might still be on the shelves, not sure but the article, Unconsciously Brainy, is super very interesting and relates to Neural Networking. I wanted to put some quotes from it on here, I'll try find some time later but goes into details about conversion, via Neural Networking, employed by Google and the like, of information into images. I think this has been littering social media and news for a while, the pictures that these AIs or perhaps proto-AIs would be a better description, have produced when dreaming etc. Kind of wish I'd seen the porn one, sounds disturbingly fascinating.

Anyway, just in case I don't get chance, thought I'd point it out. It's particularly helpful in terms of giving context to nodespace...all that had been going way over my head but I have now had me a little "a-ha" moment, though not thoroughly digested yet.

Worth a read though, in relation to this thread, and generally.

posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 07:41 PM

originally posted by: Kantzveldt
a reply to: HerbertAshe

I thought they did an interesting article the other day on the beam and encoding of the fiendish CasDis in light;

Due to the very different nature of humans the most effective way to communicate with them is by transferring visual information to their brains. The entry point is the eye. Correctly configured, the device ensures that each beam of light, which encodes the information to be transferred, produces a similar response across all contactees..

This could make people paranoid about visiting their opticians who are very fond these days of directing beams of light directly into the eye, but still it was thought provoking with regards to how those that look directly into the aliens eyes always end up seeing pretty much the same thing.

Though no instructions were given to us as to the correct operation of the device, we know these materials present photo induced conductivity that persists after the illumination is turned off. We noticed that the net increase rate of photocurrent becomes slow as the photon energy increases, which explains the observed slower response for more energetic incoming light. In all our interactions with Giselians we were illuminated by a blueish powerful light before the interaction started, which means ambient light must be somehow reduced before the eye-to-eye contact was established

Higher Levels of Communication...

Though this information is ….informative and extremely interesting, I wonder if anyone has any idea how much of a nightmare this could literally be for a living human being, or does that even matter?

This, in a nutshell, is why this nut hangs in there with being castigated on this thread for my "off topic" responses…..
Perhaps we cannot unring this already rung bell, but I can say, quite clearly, that once the mind is breached in this way, there is no peace possible, no sanity, no sanctity and it totally undermines the value of life and living…..

Surely, there are others who realize and believe this, as well.

posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 09:40 PM
a reply to: tetra50

maybe resilience in such an instance becomes a matter of making that strangeness work for YOU. there is always a path to wholeness, or at least, to existing on your own terms.

posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 11:28 PM
Alright then. Finally managed to carve some time out from all the silly little life sustaining things to attend to important internet hobbies. I'm anticipating wrestling with the formatting for the next posts, so please bear with me. The whole thing still makes me kind of dizzy despite my efforts to bring some kind of a narrative structure to this labyrinth of mirrors.

What follows is my attempt at rough timeline of FL and of this thread filtered through my own inherent cognitive biases and deficits of research. I also have a rambling collection of thoughts, speculation, and hypotheses written with the aid of a rather nice pinot noir. As such, it probably needs some editing before being thrown to the public.

The dates I’m working with are based on my timezone (UTC +12:00).

Let's get this party started.

posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 12:20 AM
Eliseo Gil, director of the Iruña-Veleia archeological project announces the discovery of 3rd Century pottery shards bearing the earliest evidence of written Basque, Egyptian hieroglyphs, and a crude depiction of the crucifixion of Jesus. Link.

A government investigation deems the Iruña-Veleia fragments to be fakes. Link. Wiki

Oct 10
Ayndryl creates first post on FL

April 24
Ayndryl joins Uz-Translations

Sept 9
Ayndryl adds a contact page to FL

Sept 22
Ayndryl posts two images in separate entries: Affel's Notebook (Folio) and Ky Anal Kaudisazas (Folio III). First mention of Affel and Affel’s language later associated with 'Vampyr' languages.

Sept 23 - Nov 5
Ayndryl continues to post images (link and link). These all appear to be scans of old books overlaid with computer generated text and image.

Dec 1
Ayndryl posts a book cover and dead link for Aeon dèéadisò ladd s'njíent lánslóaslà ladd Drizza (A treatise on the ancient language of Drizza), The Englewood Press (2009, 534 pages), and THE MILLANGIVM CRITICAL EDITION WITH NOTES ON THE LANGUAGE OF NILEANI DOMARI, The Englewood Press (2009, 734 pages). There appears to be no trace of The Englewood Press online.

Posts continue including images of books covers (both extant and FL created) including Yiddish tales and books on Romani

Dec 05
This post contains first use of the labels Anti-language and Vampyr.

Dec 28
First mention of Iruna-Veleia on FL.

Dec 31
Curious webmaster notice on FL:
Hello user, from Santander, Cantabria (Spain):
Notification to your IS Provider Cableuropa, S.L. has been sent reporting abuse from your side.
Located between Aguayos and del Rio de la Pila streets, using Safari browser.
For further information, feel free to contact us.

Feb 10
First mention of ‘Translation shall cease.’

Feb 12
First use of ‘Defense’ label and mention of a language within a language:

April 12
An English post on the Iruña-Veleia Affair. Includes a link to a pdf download.

Jun 19
First Cassini Diskus post.

Sept 11
Nyda Addyail posts here. Possibly the same person as FL user Nyda? The Wordbuilder software seems in the same ballpark of interest as that of our friends at FL.

Dec 24
First mention of Nodespaces.

Dec 30
Posts on regarding regarding Ayndryl responds on page 2 and 3 explaining the what FL is about.

Feb 1
Earliest Internet Archive Wayback Machine snapshot of" target="_blank" class="postlink">

May 17
In depth Nodespaces screenshots posted under Advanced Language Visualisation.

June 27
Image of the Nodespaces GUI is posted under The N400 Effect: Preactivation of Lexical Representations.

July 24
A post concerning the FL 2011 Complete Edition shows a mosaic made of 400 covers.

Aug 8
Mostly English post related to Magnus Sahlgren: ‘Web Search Engine’s Search Attractors’.

Feb 14
FL starts to include copyright text watermarked into their images.

June 19
FL is mentioned in this thread at Ayndryl replies 8 hours later claiming to be co-admin and posts again the next day once again explaining FL.

July 17
First video post: Niobe’s Last Tears - Owayn

Dec 8
Cassini Diskus and the Phoenix Lights

posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 01:32 AM
April 29
First post on FL by Karadne. All previous posts for five years have been by Ayndryl alone.

May 20
Naoed begins posting on FL. By June Direne, Aelidse, Enlydd, Yrdda, and Yewaalin have all started posting. By July, Nyda, Yael, Duanan, and Lyaeryn have all started posting.

July 12
Kantzveldt starts this thread.

Doodle19815 posts a screenshot of blogger user profile for FL contributor Duanan containing the following info:.
Blogger since oct 2011,
gender: female
occupation: government
hometown: Hightstown Virginia.

The profile is no longer available.

A post concerning FL is made on Bay 12 Games Forum. It goes nowhere.

July 13
HackedAlias claims a quick search into the registration of FL shows the site is registered to a Karadne Nars in Madrid.

Topdog81 and JayinAR claim to have emailed Ayndryl and both received the same stock response.

Tomjo reports that Nodespaces uses the UVI engine..

Doodle19815 claims to have recieved an email from Ayndryl stating that FL is aware of the ATS thread and are “handling the situation”

JayinAR posts Doodle19815's email from Ayndryl

Kantzveldt posts this 'fake video' mentioned in the email.

July 16
Direne registers and posts at ATS. Confirmed to be a member FL via email to Doodle19815

Direne states that FL members are recruited.

July 17
A supposedly Remote Viewing related video ‘Untold Incidents’ by XViS is posted on FL and linked by ATS

JayinAR posts an apparent email from Ayndryl:
I need you do us a favor, please. Would you mind telling the guys at ATS that the video recently uploaded by Aidnaid to FL, to which they are linking, is a Remote Viewing experiment ran at 24.04 Hz? On the upper right corner of the video there is an information icon, a white circle with the letter i. Users are supposed to click on it to get information about the video.
It seems they didn't.
Thanks in advance.

July 18
Direne mentions that Affel comes from an attempt to understand Affel’s notebook.

Direne references the Roswell crash (indirectly) and suggests rescue party coming two months.

Direne’s last post for two years, “See you tomorrow.”

JayinAR ‘freaks out’ and claims to have agreed to act as a disinfo agent on ATS for Ayndryl and now feels he has been played for a fool.

July 19
JayinAR posts an email from Ayndryl stating that FL are withdrawing from their interaction with ATS. He also states that 45 emails have passed between him and Ayndryl.

July 21
JosephPalasky claims to have found a CV indicating Ayndryl is from Spain.

HackedAlias suggests that Ayndryl is 33 from Madrid, Spain based on this Myspace profile image.

July 23
JosephPalatsky proposes the Irunia Velia link.

July 24
Aboveboard states that Ayndryl has provided useful resources responding to her requests in regard to communicating with her autistic son.

July 30
Kantzveldt starts this FL related thread.

Aug 5
Abeverage posts this message from Direne:
from: Direne
sent: 3-8-2013 at 05:53 PM
Can you please answer two questions.
Are the Cassini-diskus events UFO related?
Is Enok from the Book of Enoch?
Yes. Both questions have an affirmative answer. But the "U" in UFO means "unknown" for you. Not for us.

Aug 24
New members, Ayder and Rhyer are noticed at FL. There is speculation they may have been recruited from ATS.

Aug 30
FL publishes report regarding the XViS music videos: Field consciousness physics: On the nature of mind-matter interaction - Preliminary results of the XViS project.

Oct 7
The Giselian Realm is upload to youtube. Claims to have been produced in 2009. Very likely to not be FL related.

Nov 20
Eidolon23 posts that Ayndryl may be Ruben Cerdan based on this web profile and this blog. The post includes many more links.

edit on 2172015 by HerbertAshe because: formatting

posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 01:50 AM
Feb 16
FL post on Paradigm Shifter Vehicles. If you believe that you’ll believe, well, that the UFO phenomenon is specifically designed to induce a fundamental change in the ontological belief systems of those whom experience said phenomenon.

Mar 1
Mythufology: Tampering with Belief Systems - another FL post on the UFO phenomenon and belief systems.

April 11
First post on FL associated site

May 15
Correct Decoding of Cassini Diskus posted on

Feb 20
Kantzveldt starts new thread on ATS regarding this FL post from the previous day.

Feb 25
Whiteglow posts here linking some of the original source documents that FL have edited and amended with a phrase or two of UFO/ET/ATS-centric buzzwords in their English passages. as well as some of the source images for their ‘books’.

March 9
Countdown timer is first noticed on the FL front page counting down to August 5th.

May 2
Direne returns to ATS.

May 5
Direne claims that FL predicts a ‘High Level Event’ in the Middle East on Aug 5.

May 9
ATS user Digital_Reality indicates they were a past member of FL as 'Isimud’ and hints they may have had a falling out with the FL group.

June 8
Direne’s last post on ATS.

June 10
Velvetprawn posts a link to (now a 404) as a possible FL splinter site.

June 11
Digital_Reality claims that is theirs and that the site is unrelated to, but using techniques learned from, FL.

I join ATS with a flurry of enthusiasm and a Cassini Diskus spectrograph.

June 16
Direne’s last login at ATS.

June 17
Velvetprawn posts a link to Interesting to note that also has a countdown timer aiming at August 5th, although 37 seconds ahead of the FL countdown.

June 30 comes (back) online.

edit on 2172015 by HerbertAshe because: typos

posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 01:59 AM
I know there is a lot of stuff I've skipped in an attempt to distill things to the bare bones. If there are any glaring errors, omissions, or inconsistencies please PM me and I will make edits. By no means is this offered as anything conclusive, just an idle following of curiosity.

Anyways, glad I finally got that done, now back to the guano flavoured craziness of life.

Be seeing you.

posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 02:24 AM
a reply to: HerbertAshe

I'm only on 2011 and firefox crashed and I need a jaw-dolly, preferably with wheels.

Thanks so much, HerbertAshe.


edit on 21-7-2015 by Bybyots because: . : .

posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 04:06 AM
a reply to: HerbertAshe

That's a great summary, one point, when i first came across the site the impression i got was that Karadne was by far the most active early poster and that all seemed to disappear, i think it's important to recognize that FL was initially set up and running by both Karadne and Ayndryl, and that the core membership of around 14 was there in place from the onset though not particularly active on the site they did make the occasional post.

Related to that as i noted at the onset is that the nature of the site is such that all content can only be uploaded onto it through the website manager, and as you noted by 2011 they'd had 400 illustrated articles though they may have been uploaded by Ayndryl as site manager not necessarily produced.

posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 10:17 AM
a reply to: HerbertAshe

You put a lot of non-working links. You should fix them somehow.

posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 03:35 PM
a reply to: HerbertAshe

Thanks so much for the summary!

Only 13 more days until their claimed high-level event. Will be keeping a close eye on this thread and FL.

posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 06:33 PM
a reply to: HerbertAshe

I think I have been a part of this thread since its beginning or almost. Not really participating much since I prefer to do my research alone based on the discussion evolution developing through this thread, but I just had to say Thank You for this timeline friend ! It really helps to find the key points of the thread, that (lets be honest
) got buried along the way.

PS: Concerning the spectroscope image, i thought I try and find the corresponding image on the FL site in the CD subcategory, but didn't find it there, so it was either done for the purpose of the video, or has been removed from the site. I don't know if that would help with anything, but I just wanted to see the actual image with the right colors and shapes for analysis.

posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 02:49 AM

originally posted by: HerbertAshe

June 19
FL is mentioned in this thread at Ayndryl replies 8 hours later claiming to be co-admin and posts again the next day once again explaining FL.

Ploughing my way through all the links, and making my own subsequent investigations...but so far, excellent job, you've created a solid narrative, and the above link has set off a slotting in process in my head that is possibly going to culminate in understanding.

Will continue to work my way through, as time permits, and see what else filters to the top, in the meantime, cheers!

posted on Jul, 22 2015 @ 11:03 AM
Simply a deceiver. That's all. Thank you.

posted on Jul, 23 2015 @ 03:41 AM
a reply to: Anaana

The qualification i noted, Ayndryl was always co-admin with Karadne at the onset of their online machinations, important because i think FL was set up from two directions with Spain somewhere in the middle.

Overall HerbertAshes's wonderful summary suggests, to myself, something of the 90% disinformation 10% truth school of thought is the case here, though surmised previously it sort of helps reinforce that perspective, but that 10% is always worth looking out for as would be the case here.

As ever the only credited source for this type of 'information' is themselves but checking back through their operative links i noticed this throwaway remark here from last year, Algenib-3 induced the Neolithic revolution in Sol-3, silently. Is it a model to follow?

The reason that would get my attention apart from seemingly spontaneously emerging from the ether as an idea is that Algenib-3 is a corner star of the Pegasus square and that was a key motif regarding the establishment of civilization and premise for the development of the tree of life as sourced from Dilmun iconography, as i looked at here, so i would give such a suggestion some credibility with regards to considerable potential corroboration from ancient cultures, it's because of such examples case closed i don't think is possible at this point in time.

posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 05:38 PM
a reply to: Kantzveldt

I don't have sufficient information to conclude that anything that they are producing constitutes "disinformation". In almost all instances the excerpts in English are reasonably referenced and easy to find, reading those, in context with the headings of each post, and the early narrative of FL that HerbertAshe has constructed, disinformation is not what immediately springs to mind. In terms of there being a correlation between what you and they post, as the 19 June 2012 posts by Andryl on the "how to learn any language" forum clearly demonstrate, they are pretty much on the ball in tracking any discussion that involves them.

They're looking at us, looking at them, looking at us...and so on and so forth.

posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 06:25 PM
a reply to: Bybyots

I'm wondering about this annealing thing that you have mentioned a few times, and although I think Direne either dismissed or brushed over it, I don't know, I think you are on to something...perhaps in an abstract sense, I am having trouble nailing some of this down, generally, I'm not finding what FL are doing really open to much direct insight but derivatively, looking at what they were looking at and playing with, there is far more of interest to my mind.

I am not sure if they are aware that there is an annealing equivalent process involved in what they are doing, to my limited understanding of what annealing would be in the given context, or even ascertain whether it could better be seen as "anti-annealing". Isn't the effect, if I am following this right, to actual remove robustness?

posted on Jul, 24 2015 @ 08:13 PM

originally posted by: Anaana
a reply to: Kantzveldt

I don't have sufficient information to conclude that anything that they are producing constitutes "disinformation". In almost all instances the excerpts in English are reasonably referenced and easy to find, reading those, in context with the headings of each post, and the early narrative of FL that HerbertAshe has constructed, disinformation is not what immediately springs to mind. In terms of there being a correlation between what you and they post, as the 19 June 2012 posts by Andryl on the "how to learn any language" forum clearly demonstrate, they are pretty much on the ball in tracking any discussion that involves them.

They're looking at us, looking at them, looking at us...and so on and so forth.

The disinformation aspect would be a little less obvious than that….kind of, well, "obviously."

Forgive me, I don't mean to sound or be sarcastic. But it is what it is.

What I mean by this, is……a kernel of truth within a shell, within another shell, within another, etc.

Kind of how the thread has progressed. We can have all the "obvious" posters appear, and say…so and so has taken us off course, etc. But they would be missing the larger analogy, whether I, or anyone likes it or not.

It starts and begins with achealogical finds and language representations upon them , in places where neither match, per our known and accepted history, at this point. This is the middle, so to speak. But this is the core, of what it probably very important and informative within 100 pgs. hereabouts.

The web that extends from that discovery is convoluted and many faceted. It potentially changes the shape and acceptance of all known history, to this point. This is why this thread is riveting, and people hang in there for it.
I'm sure you've realized that fully, Anaana, so I don't really speak directly to you with this writing, but in general, purely.

Much stems from this discovery, how it is perceived, how it is dealt with, how it is shoved aside; and also, from this thread, and every tangent it displays and follows. Make no mistake. This is a study of "found" information, altering history, and the study and tracking, even while influencing, what it represents.

And even while doing so, it reveals much about every one who participates while they do so….

posted on Jul, 25 2015 @ 12:28 AM

originally posted by: tetra50
The disinformation aspect would be a little less obvious than that….kind of, well, "obviously."

Forgive me, I don't mean to sound or be sarcastic. But it is what it is.

It is what it is to you, and indeed, to Kantzveldt, and you are perfectly entitled to your opinions, but so far, I have seen nothing to support that directly. I am never inclined to judge simply because I don't understand.

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