The Language of Vampyr

a reply to: Bybyots

The diagram is not mine, neither that post. No, I ignore everything about Bybyots, however the sentence "a character from fiction" reminds me of a certain guy called Curtis LeMay. Was that guy real?

I don't know about Tékumel and Barker. I wished I could read fiction, but I only really enjoy A.C. Clarke, in particular "Rendezvous with Rama".

a reply to: Direne

Good enough then.

a reply to: Anaana

I suspect we're not talking about a full blown Close Encounters of the Third Kind jamming session.
Repetition of same for same or repeat then variation? Mimicry or learning?

The highest level of close encounters is not the face to face encounter with a extra terrestrial intelligent being, as seen in the movies. This is so because the chances that those ET beings have a "face" is nil. For instance, there is no close encounters of the third kind with a virus. The virus is inside you, no way for a vis-to-vis encounter.

the perspective though, as you say, distorted, comes from within the biosphere and seems to be directed to within the biosphere...

Interesting view, Anaana. The problem here is that when a planet has intelligent life, there is another new layer entering the contact equation: the noosphere. Much as you can learn a lot of a civilisation by simply studying the garbage, the wastes, the dumping sites, you can learn a lot by analyzing the signals. Archaeology, in a way, is just the study of garbage dumps, and graveyards. We need to also study communications graveyards, so to speak. Beacons are just that: garbage dumps, albeit quite sophisticated ones. I wonder how does the garbage dumps of a noosphere look like.

in our evolutionary quest for short-term individualistic survival we have over ridden some processing abilities required for longer term adaptations, that does not mean that we are incapable of understanding the signals being communicated to us by re-engaging with those faculties.

Actually, some people have the view that because some species can only communicate within a higher state of consciousness, there is then a need for one of the species to "tweak" the minds of those with whom they wish to communicate. According to this hypothesis, you need to "hack" somehow the individuals you wish to establish contact with. A direct way would be to abduct an individual and implant the required tools to get his/her
mind to enter into that higher level of consciousness. Fillings of MgAl (magnalium), with a specific submilimiter size, can do the job, if they are located in specific areas of your body, they say. They then just need to make those fillings oscillate when exposed to radiation in order generate electric pulses, triggering neural activity in the individual's brain. Basically, it is like implanting crystal oscillators inside your body. They will oscillate only when they pick a given signal. Perhaps some abductions are just that.

The process with which I imagined my "Temporal Snicket Maker" to work utilises naturally occuring bio-chemical processes driven by EMR and NIEMR interacting with each other.

Yes, that would do the trick for a human brain. Forcing specific patterns of neural firing, keeping those patterns correlated, and activating specific areas in the brain would take the individual to the point where neural processes of a different kind could emerge. However, how do you communicate with a sort of intelligent jelly fish? No eyes, no verbal communication, no sound, and a dramatically different biochemistry. That's what you'll find in a close encounter out there.

Have a look at these beautiful examples of failed communication.

a reply to: Direne

But if one species is more intelligent than the other, and they study how the lesser intelligent ones communicate among themselves, couldn't the more intelligent species work out how to communicate with the 'lesser' ones?

For example, we have marine biologists who are on the verge of figuring out how to communicate with dolphins...

a reply to: lostgirl

Sure, but we do not have a standard against which to measure who is or is not intelligent. A mosquito can fly, so does a butterfly. Are they more intelligent than an ant? More intelligent than a human? Intelligence is not an objective criterium. Technologically advanced is not a criterium either. To communicate implies sharing experiences and ideas, and it is hard, not to say impossible, to share experiences with beings who have a different biology.

For what we know, some of those ETs behave just like cockroaches: if stimulated with light, they fly away; if you happen to have a source of coherent neutrinos, they approach. Others behave in a quite scary (and boring) way, flying in formation with a wing leader (which tells you a lot about hierarchy, work specialisation, work division, social status, etc.). The very moment they show a hierarchy it means there is a chain of command, with someone commanding and someone obeying (obedience is present in just a few species even on Earth).

To communicate with someone that someone must have your very same neural structure, and identical biochemistry. No room for interspecies communication. Symbiosis, and parasitic coexistence may be the only way ahead.

In this case, they are obviously the parasites.

a reply to: lostgirl

I've looking for some research on this topic. There are good articles, books, and papers under the name endophysics (also, microconstructivism):

- Ali Sanayei and Otto E. Rössler, Chaotic Harmony: A Dialog about Physics, Complexity and Life. Springer, 2014.

- Endophysics: the world as an interface. By Otto E. Rossler, World Scientific Publishing Co. Pte. Ltd, Singapore, New Jersey, London, Hong Kong, 1998.

- The world as interface: towards the construction of context-controlled event-worlds (a paper by Peter Weibel)

Basically: you interpret the world according to the brain you have, and you communicate your experiences about that world with that brain you have, and only to those who have the same brain you have.

originally posted by: Direne
Interesting view, Anaana. The problem here is that when a planet has intelligent life, there is another new layer entering the contact equation: the noosphere. Much as you can learn a lot of a civilisation by simply studying the garbage, the wastes, the dumping sites, you can learn a lot by analyzing the signals. Archaeology, in a way, is just the study of garbage dumps, and graveyards. We need to also study communications graveyards, so to speak. Beacons are just that: garbage dumps, albeit quite sophisticated ones. I wonder how does the garbage dumps of a noosphere look like.

One man's rubbish is another's treasure. I don't know. An old and dusty, forgotten library?

originally posted by: Direne
Actually, some people have the view that because some species can only communicate within a higher state of consciousness, there is then a need for one of the species to "tweak" the minds of those with whom they wish to communicate. According to this hypothesis, you need to "hack" somehow the individuals you wish to establish contact with. A direct way would be to abduct an individual and implant the required tools to get his/her
mind to enter into that higher level of consciousness. Fillings of MgAl (magnalium), with a specific submilimiter size, can do the job, if they are located in specific areas of your body, they say. They then just need to make those fillings oscillate when exposed to radiation in order generate electric pulses, triggering neural activity in the individual's brain. Basically, it is like implanting crystal oscillators inside your body. They will oscillate only when they pick a given signal. Perhaps some abductions are just that.

My Mum has a very strong bite. She also has a few missing teeth, and has to wear a denture. When I was little those two factors combined to give my Mum headaches as the metal in the bridge of the denture picked up radio frequencies. She only ever picked up the BBC though.

originally posted by: Direne
Yes, that would do the trick for a human brain. Forcing specific patterns of neural firing, keeping those patterns correlated, and activating specific areas in the brain would take the individual to the point where neural processes of a different kind could emerge. However, how do you communicate with a sort of intelligent jelly fish? No eyes, no verbal communication, no sound, and a dramatically different biochemistry. That's what you'll find in a close encounter out there.

I wouldn't recommend doing that to a human brain.

In terms of "intelligent jellyfish", how do you introduce yourself in any novel encounter? How do you get any communication rolling? And why?

originally posted by: Direne
Have a look at these beautiful examples of failed communication.

And of when it succeeds...





The fun guy and gal in us humans, can be the better half, so long as the sugar level stays balanced and the culture doesn't get too rich.

originally posted by: Kantzveldt
a reply to: Anaana

The concern that can be seen is with connectivity across two event horizons, the place of sunrise and sunset and the mountain were this occurs, which is the same mountain in both instances.

The first image looks like a gift giving ceremony. The other two (above) are maps, the vessels advertising both service and location, though the directions can be generally applied to a particular type of location.

Several lines of scientific evidence suggest that Australopithecus africanus (like the ‘Mrs Ples’ fossil from Sterkfontein) was adapted to mixed, or mosaic habitats – landscapes with trees and open grassland, with some wetland marshy areas. The study suggests that it was the type of mosaic environment created by tectonic earth movements near rivers or lakes.

These features including cliffs, sedimented valleys, river gorges and drier plateau areas in close proximity of about 10 kilometres, are created when sections of the earth’s crust move in response to pressure, then blocks of land are lifted up, while others are forced downwards. When this happens next to a river, the result is the creation of wetland, marshy areas close to drier plateaus and areas of erosion.

Professor Geoff Bailey, from the University of York, who is the lead author on an accompanying paper, also published in the same issue of the Journal of Human Evolution, confirms: “This link between earthquakes and human habitation is one we’ve long suspected was there. Regions vulnerable to earthquake and volcanic activity often create landscapes with long-term benefits for human settlement. But the tragic events in Christchurch are a graphic illustration of the attendant risk of these locations.”

www.york.ac.uk...

The vessels which depict various demons predatory animals and stinging insects, serving more general antiseptics, packaged for those purposes, the symbols direct usage.







The ability to purify water without fire would have been of enormous benefit to anyone lacking in burnable fuel, particularly for birthing and preventing infant death.

Also, because Chlorite has anti-fungal properties, societies were able to isolate and select yeasts which were domesticated for a variety of uses.

Another map, this time illustrating an alliance of some of those "cultures".

a reply to: Direne

I was thinking more along the lines of highly evolved/intelligent ETs figuring out how to communicate with us...


But actually, we do "have a standard against which to measure" intelligence - ourselves...We study various animals and compare their mental capabilities with our own.

This is how we came to know that it may be possible to communicate with dolphins, but not with ants...This is how it came to be that there is at least one gorilla in the world with whom we can communicate in sign language:

www.koko.org


Re: Your second post
Thank you for the info, I read a bit on endophysics and find it very interesting.

Although, I'm not sure I agree that we can only communicate with those who "have the same brain" we have - this leaves out a fundamental quality of the human mind: imagination.

Humans can use their imaginations to shift their perspective so that it is not entirely limited to the subjective 'view' of our own world and experiences. Whether 'alien' minds have this ability is the question.

I think the primary obstacle to any potential communications with 'beings' from different worlds (whether extraterrestrial or inter-dimensional), is that it could only be initiated by whichever 'species' had had both the opportunity to study the other and had the intelligence and imagination to work out a means of communicating based on the subjective parameters of that 'other'...

...my meaning being that if we were being visited/observed by 'aliens', we would most likely have to wait for them to make the first move (and probably the second, third, fourth, etc..) in order for there to be any communication.

wait a second, direne you are saying all nuclear weapons world wide are disabled? i have to call BS on that one. especially since new comers have detonated nukes after 1982.

Also i personally feel that we humans are the beginning. that we are the seed to the galaxy and one day the universe, i actually have a whole theory and all but for some reason i cannot start a new topic on the site yet.

but a TL;DR
humans are the only "critical thinking" species that has survived thus far. others have come and gone and possibly made it farther down the evolutionary and galactic chain but due to:
*natural events in solar system (solar storms, super nova, system collisions, extra solar neutron bursts)
*Geo physical change on planet (impacts, loss of tidal forces, core solidification leading to loss of magnetic field)
*Disease
*War
* lack of motivation to innovate
These species have Failed and died off

somehow the choices made by our collective species has led us to this point. I know this sounds very "sun revolves around the earth" but if i could post my full thoughts on this i think people would see it could be true.

a reply to: snowman22

you are saying all nuclear weapons world wide are disabled?

I am saying they won't work the time you need them, the way you expect them to work. To prove it, you'll need to launch one of those nukes against a city. That would be the final test, even if they happen to work. I call that
"aliens' sense of humor". When you don't get a radar track of a flying object, you can always blame the radar.
When you do get a radar track of the scrambled jet chasing the UFO, but not a radar track of the UFO itself,
whom to blame?

we are the seed to the galaxy and one day the universe

I agree with you. You are the seed. To be harvested. On the other hand, whether the seed leads or not to a growing plant highly depends on which soil was the seed planted, and on whether there was water and light enough for it to grow. Seeding a desert won't make a garden.

These species have Failed and died off

Species confront extinction, sooner or later. Cockroaches have been around for millions of years without major changes in their design. Most insects can withstand radioactivity with no major impact. As a species, mammals are really bad performers. Humans desperately need to modify their environment if the wish to thrive, and they adapt to changing environments extremely slowly.

a reply to: lostgirl

We study various animals and compare their mental capabilities with our own.

Yes, you write the intelligence tests, and you decide about who is or not intelligent. This only means you are cheating. Intelligence takes many varied forms. Solving maths problems is a specific kind of human intelligence, much as weaving a spider nest is a specific spider's ability in which spiders outperforms humans. Being a dolphin is something dolphins do extremely well. Intelligence cannot be compared interspecies. All of them are intelligent
in their own way.

it may be possible to communicate with dolphins, but not with ants

Agreed. You can surely interact at a very basic level with dolphins, but that is because they are mammals and their neural structure is similar to yours. However, to interact is not to communicate. Interaction is a basic level of communication, a starting point.

if we were being visited/observed by 'aliens', we would most likely have to wait for them to make the first move (and probably the second, third, fourth, etc..)

Some of them have made the first move already, and the second, and they've done a lot more. Others simply would want to domesticate you. Domestication is a difficult task. Taming of a population of humans in order to accentuate traits that are desirable to the tamer would be like "human-forming" (as a second step after terraforming). There are would be traits they are not interested in, and others they would find useful. Taming is a slow process, though. It has something to do with enslaving, though they are not the same. From their point of view, the aim is that humans become habituated to alien presence. It is what you did with dogs only that now the dog is you.

Finally, there would be other aliens whose level of intelligence is similar to yours and they would apply a different approach: occupation via silent invasion.

I am a strong opposer to contact until we find a way in which relations with other species are not based on hegemony or utility. Interstellar traveling does not equate automatically to higher intelligence; in fact, a highly intelligent species would not feel the need to travel at all. It would be self-contained, and self-sufficient. Why traveling? What for?

Your entire world, right now, is based on MAD. MAD shaped the way nations inter-relate to other nations. MAD dictates what can and cannot be done. MAD has a deep influence on your culture and in your entire civilisation, something even philosohers tend to forget. Your sociology, your economy, your belief-systems, are all children of that mutual-assured destruction paradigm

a reply to: Direne

do you mean to say YOU are an OBSERVER....possibly non human ...you speak as if you are not part of ..OUR entire world right now ..

is FL part of a race supremacist campaign against mankind.

i mean deneb-5 matrix

World civilizations cease to exist, once they are wired into the global matrix of the galaxy. They become local cultures in a global galactic civilization. For the newcomers that means they have contributed nothing to that global galactic civilization, so far, and sure Sol-3 will be shocked when it finally be accepted into the Deneb-5 matrix.

Algenib-3 induced the Neolithic revolution in Sol-3, silently. Is it a model to follow?

now i can see where the all the gods went...with the exception of the mean 'religion-gods'..

can you clarify what the end game is with respect to the 'domain overseers'---algenib,deneb.

and what happens if there was already another domain overlord before these two groups ...i mean surely unicorns,dragons,dinosaurs existed long b4 the neolithic revolution ..whoever planted them there must have had a purpose for them...perhaps one involving ...evolution over billions of years .

these new 'budding' type 4 civ just run around using genetic cook-books they barely understand...they should try building their own 'evolution equations' from basics rather than just fooling around...with existing ones.

for now i guess we're just sitting ducks waiting to be evolved into a different creature...like someone put it elsewhere 'its the end of our ..hidden oasis'.

and what is it that drew attention of these 'gods' to our oasis..radio tx,nuclear bombs,moon visit,Montauk..

probably the latter ..if giselians are type 4 ufonauts...the only project with sufficient complexity to create 'windows' in space-time--parallel universes e.t.c , i've heard about is montauk.

a reply to: fr33coll3ct1v3

My friend, please consider this:

Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers

Time Travel?

It is a bit laughable that someone proposes a strategy to look for evidences of time travellers; it is, because obviously if there are time travellers they would have known about those strategies the minute before the author wrote his paper about how to detect them. Of course, assuming TTs do not wish to be identified...

I am sure you will find those two papers an interesting reading, indeed.

is FL part of a race supremacist campaign against mankind

No. Actually, mankind does not need any supremacist campaign against itself: they are self-sufficient for that task. Sadly enough, I must say. I am sure you agree with me.

a reply to: Anaana


You're not seeing the simple statement they make, in the drawn example the centrally located symbol, the cross, is the sign for Nibiru, literally relating to centre.

In the first example, the model, they make offerings to the sunrise at the centre, the horizons as i mentioned are represented by the stepped mountain of the horizon, the mountain of light which was personified by zodiacal light appearing at dusk and dawn, even though they represent two mountains in fact there can only ever be one active the other being its pre-destined twin, the two always inter-connected, most burial artifacts from Jiroft concern themselves with this inter-connectivity of the horizons.

At the centre of course birth and death are reconciled as one.

a reply to: Direne

Hello this morning (at least for me), Direne.
The following is what I mean by the term back masking. My use of this term was based on this definition:

Backmasking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backmasking
Wikipedia
Backmasking is a recording technique in which a sound or message is recorded backward onto a track that is meant to be played forward. Backmasking is a deliberate process, whereas a message found through phonetic reversal may be unintentional.
History - ‎Use - ‎Accusations

Further, though Wiki may not be the best of sources, and I can only provide a link here of supposedly backmasked messages and only dealing with music (which I love--music--and mean no disrespect and do not intend to zero in on it in any way, as these techniques exist in many, many places other than music--, due to T&C language limitations, here is a further list of proposed backmasked messages contained in music: backmasking messages

I found this particularly interesting, as well, though one can take or leave the validity of it, taken from this LINK:
mentalfloss.com... Excerpt from article as follows:

It began, as many things do, with Thomas Edison. After inventing the phonograph in 1877, old Tom noticed that music in reverse sounded “novel and sweet but altogether different.” In the early 1950s, avant-garde musicians began incorporating that difference into their compositions. They ran reel-to-reel tape recorders backwards, and presto - the unsettling sound of a hundred little Hoovers sucking up a melody and lyric.

A decade later, The Beatles pushed backward sounds into the mainstream with such songs as “Rain” and “Tomorrow Never Knows.” Later, their audio reversals came back to haunt them with the Paul Is Dead rumors. But that’s a topic for another day.

The backmasking-Satanism connection can be traced to a 1913 book by mystic Aleister Crowley, who recommended that those interested in black magic would do well to “learn how to think and speak backwards.” Sixty years later, Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page moved into Crowley’s old mansion. To borrow one of Aranza’s pet phrases: “Coincidence?”

But this is the more interesting point to me:

BACKMASKING ON THE BRAIN

Let’s pause here to ask two questions. Can any songwriter actually write lyrics that scan forwards and backwards? And does the brain even comprehend backward messages? No to the first. And despite claims by pseudo-scientists like David John Oates that the subconscious mind can decipher phonetic reversals, there is no proof that it can, or that a person’s behavior would be influenced in any way, if it could.

That said, the brain will search for recognizable patterns in noise or gibberish. A song played backwards offers many possibilities, especially when you’re told what to listen for.

Now, this was the question you asked me, pertaining to the airbus crash and the post on FL, prior, I assume, to the crash. Your actual questions put to me about back masking were this:

Please, take note of the date of our post, and the date of the aircrash.

Would that be an example of backmasking? Who or what backmasks? We or the copilot?

Neither and/or none of the above, according to what I meant, obviously.
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When I referenced back masking in terms of FL's video offerings, the idea of back masking via those videos, imho, becomes child's play. Frequency, flashing light timed just so, combined with haunting music, paired with haunting visuals all designed to instill, induce and stick with the viewer far beyond the actual viewing all combine to show that there are far more intricate, sophisticated, capable and well studied ways of doing similar things today, and perhaps go way beyond anything akin to "backmasking." The viewers seem transfixed, and many, changed forever by the viewing. There is a hypnotic component at work, as well.

Now, the point must be made that tacit compliance is inherent, as well. Viewer be warned. All advertising today uses less overt, but nonetheless effective methods to sell, sell, sell, for many years now. Although subliminal messages may have been outlawed many years ago, the methodology has only become more sophisticated and less obviously detectable. However, most everyone knows this, and no one seems particularly concerned about it, as long as they are surfacely entertained by what the consumer sees. Everytime a consumer (read: individual viewer, which covers just about everyone) and is synonymous with the word: consumer. For that's what the population has become, quite simply.
In that context, the minute you allow some outside input or stimulation to your brain, you have tacitly agreed, as though you are on a stage where hypnotism is being performed for the entertainment of the viewer, at the expense of the hypnotized subject. And, of course, we all understand that "tacit" means an unspoken agreement to whatever's being pumped into your brain: shocking, induction and hypnosis all come to mind, here. There may be a tacit feature once one pushes "play," but there are sophisticated inductive and hypnotic features at work here that stick with the viewer well after the first, and perhaps, only viewing.

Today, each time we power up a device, be it a cell phone, a television, a movie in a theatre, and even and especially our confuser, ah, sorry, computer, etc., we are engaged in tacit activity, whether we consider the effect on our brains or not. Most, sadly, do not consider this. Many are wholly unaware of the entire principal, much less the affect on the brain and body. Almost all modern society, I believe, is hypnotized daily, by a plethora of devices.
And even if one does not engage or interact with said devices, one would still be exposed to some manner of the same, just by walking through Times Square, just as an example, where the outer stimluation is rampant.

And that brings me, necessarily, to the point of purposeful and weaponized, and perhaps not quite as tacit, technology which goes far beyond the practice or concept of backmasking. In fact, with these certain, directed and wweaponized technologies, one has absolutely no choice in the matter. And this brings me to this particular book:

a reply to: tetra50

Con't:"The Mind Has No Firewall," by Timothy L. Thomas, an excerpt of which appeared in 1998 in Parameters, a U.S. Army War College Quarterly, of all surprising places (and I'm being quite sarcastic, in case that isn't clear.) LINK to article

I would venture a guess that on a military level, this has been studied and perfected, even, many years hence, starting at a boot camp level where the point and practice is to completely break down a personality and replace it with something else entirely, and certainly brainwashing and even hypnosis play a basic role there, and well before FL. However, a caveat about before and after assumptions, here, as I am not a proponent of discussing chicken and egg timeline quandaries, or all things vis a vis timelines, as I am quite dubious and skeptical that there is any order of events that cannot become, quite easily, out of order.
in fact, the ordering of events are subject to re-ordering at any given "time,"just as "history" is his to tell who won whatever war and prevailed to write it, and almost anyone with the right science, power and blackmail, even, behind them, with enough hypnotism and holography at their disposal, can hijack absolutely any "history," and convince the public, perhaps even themselves, of what "truly happened and when it happened, especially given today's technology. As it is said, once a quantum computer is turned on, it is then, always on, and could certainly engage in the reordering of anything, much less factualizing what at one time was considered preposterous..
An excerpt of the beginning of this article:

"It is completely clear that the state which is first to create such weapons will achieve incomparable superiority." -- Major I. Chernishev, Russian army[1]

The human body, much like a computer, contains myriad data processors. They include, but are not limited to, the chemical-electrical activity of the brain, heart, and peripheral nervous system, the signals sent from the cortex region of the brain to other parts of our body, the tiny hair cells in the inner ear that process auditory signals, and the light-sensitive retina and cornea of the eye that process visual activity.[2] We are on the threshold of an era in which these data processors of the human body may be manipulated or debilitated. Examples of unplanned attacks on the body's data-processing capability are well-documented. Strobe lights have been known to cause epileptic seizures. Not long ago in Japan, children watching television cartoons were subjected to pulsating lights that caused seizures in some and made others very sick.

Defending friendly and targeting adversary data-processing capabilities of the body appears to be an area of weakness in the US approach to information warfare theory, a theory oriented heavily toward systems data-processing and designed to attain information dominance on the battlefield. Or so it would appear from information in the open, unclassified press. This US shortcoming may be a serious one, since the capabilities to alter the data- processing systems of the body already exist. A recent edition of U.S. News and World Report highlighted several of these "wonder weapons" (acoustics, microwaves, lasers) and noted that scientists are "searching the electromagnetic and sonic spectrums for wavelengths that can affect human behavior."[3] A recent Russian military article offered a slightly different slant to the problem, declaring that "humanity stands on the brink of a psychotronic war" with the mind and body as the focus. That article discussed Russian and international attempts to control the psycho-physical condition of man and his decisionmaking processes by the use of VHF-generators, "noiseless cassettes," and other technologies.

An entirely new arsenal of weapons, based on devices designed to introduce subliminal messages or to alter the body's psychological and data-processing capabilities, might be used to incapacitate individuals. These weapons aim to control or alter the psyche, or to attack the various sensory and data-processing systems of the human organism. In both cases, the goal is to confuse or destroy the signals that normally keep the body in equilibrium.

This article examines energy-based weapons, psychotronic weapons, and other developments designed to alter the ability of the human body to process stimuli. One consequence of this assessment is that the way we commonly use the term "information warfare" falls short when the individual soldier, not his equipment, becomes the target of attack.

The mind, indeed, has no firewall. And though this article asserts the American military knew little of this, I am extremely skeptical that was the case in 1998. It was just then being discussed publicly. The history of MK Ultra, for one, makes it pretty obvious this was, indeed the case, and the beginnings of that were circa 1950s.

The very interesting part about this article for me is that it's really talking about inducing frontal lobe seizures, among other points, of course. I'm sure, if interested, Mr. Bybyots can inform us quite a bit about frontal lobe seizures, and certainly, there are references in this article as to what is seen in FL's videos….

Certainly, extreme rendition and the ideas prevalent in the movie Inception, the practice of influencing and inducing into a mind thoughts, ideas, concepts, dreams and even words that are not the thought product of the individual's mind but yet, they are unable to stop the intrusion, nor separate their own thought product from what is being induced, much less determine the true source of the inception of thought, which many times inevitably then influences and creates belief and most importantly, action.
tetra

a reply to: tetra50

scientists are "searching the electromagnetic and sonic spectrums for wavelengths that can affect human behavior."

I see your point and your concern. Given the definition of backmasking provided by your source my answer is negative: our videos do not use that technique. My previous answer had more to do with scripted lives, where you can play them back in reverse. Assume a world in which the only way to see the floor wet is because it rained. If you see the floor wet, your brain will jump to the only possible conclusion: it rained. If that world is scripted and you play it back, then when you see the floor wet the conclusion would be "it's gonna rain". That's what I meant.

Now yes, I understand your being wary. Brain waves are electromagnetic waves, so obviously there are many ways to tamper with them. The holographic paradigm is all about that: stimulating your senses in such a way as to make your brain recreate/create reality. However, there are life forms that do not have a brain and that do not sense the environment around using waves, which automatically rules out the holographic paradigm and the Matrix-like hypotheses.

Yes, you have good reasons to be worried about the evil use of EM, but we at FL do not use EM at all. What happens, I guess, is this: some of our videos are engineered to trigger OBE and NDE, but this only works if the viewer has been trained previously. Some of our members are OBErs and they engineer their videos to trigger that experience. It is the way they have to communicate among them. Could be the case that some of our videos triggered that mechanism in your brain? Could it be that, as you were reluctant to it, the video caused you to have nightmares? I do not think so, tetra50. We use local resources taking extreme care not to harm locals. I mean, I do not believe our videos could cause that effect in you, beyond what TV programs or movies could cause in anyone else's brain.

There is a vast corpus of research papers on the effects of music and about the interaction of music and brain (music therapy is based on that), and there are papers about sonically inducing altered states of mind; however, it is precisely the opposite that holds: privation of sound causes deep damage to a brain.

There are test areas, usually in forests, in which sound removal equipment is installed to test the effects of sound removal in people (usually, areas where trees have been newly planted; reforested areas include some of those engineered trees inside of which you find the antennas). I recall one of those in British Columbia where a vast area was entirely devoted to those experiments; it included a conditioning buffer zone in which sounds were played back (birds, water flowing, etc.) to recreate certain emotional states, followed by areas of total and absolute silence.

Sound privation, under certain conditions, is also a concern, tetra50.

a reply to: Direne

Direne: Again, thanks so much for paying attention to what I'm trying to say, and answering it intellectually.
But your last statement about sound……I am a self trained musician myself. I love and need music in my life to fight depression. However, I'm also somewhat of a victim of EM tampering. And I believe many people are, but just might not yet recognize it. This is, in fact, what I meant when I said a line out is also a line in. Take fMRI, for instance. They claim to be able to visualize what's in the subject's mind, at a given time. But, they can also put images there, fMRI them, and claim they are a product of your brain. And then someone thinks, or at least can claim, they know you, your psyche, your subconscious, know you on your deepest level, when it ultimately could be nothing but a con job.

Anyone who has suffered EM intrusion, and I must add here that it leaves damaged imprints in your brain visible with the right testing, knows that it's a hell one cannot escape. The feeling is different from schizophrenia, and the brain on testing will look different than a schizophrenic's. But even schizophrenia can be induced, and I'm talking about messing with the seratonin levels and other biological brain chemicals to induce such a thing. Without sourcing, (I can, if necessary, though) they've even invented tiny bots that can monitor and deliver medications. Heart attacks can be induced. You can be artificially, sexually aroused, and given thoughts while that's happening to lead to certain conclusions that are not true because it isn't really YOU that's reacting or being reflected.

Since you mentioned television, have you heard of Silent Sound Spread Spectrum? Here's a fun article about it for your reading enjoyment:ppjg.me...Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS) & the All-Digital TV Broadcast Signal: Connection?
And a little snippet from the article:

The Department of Defense calls it Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS), and it also goes by the name of S-quad or Squad. In the private sector, the technology goes by the name of Silent Subliminal Presentation System and the technology has also been released to certain corporate vendors who have attached catchy brand names like BrainSpeak Silent Subliminals to their own SSSS-based products.
Whatever you call it, SSSS is a technology that uses subliminal programming that is carried over Ultra-High Frequency (UHF) broadcast waves, planting inaudible messages directly into the subconscious human mind.

Though psychtronic weapons are supposed to be illegal, apparently laws don't matter much, that is, unless you're below a certain income level or the wrong color or talking too much. The rest of the run down:

Perfected more than twenty years ago by the Department of Defense and battlefield-tested upon unwitting Iraqi soldiers serving in the army of Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War during 1991, SSSS is a sinister weapon that may have been been developed for a specific mission: the total subjugation of the American people.
Whether SSSS is coupled with the new all-digital TV signal as its means of delivery into the minds of an unsuspecting U.S. populace or not, it can be deployed by many different devices, including HAARP and GWEN towers, which would effectively blanket the entire nation at once. In fact, Judy Wall says that “there is evidence that the US Government has plans to extend the range of this technology to envelop all peoples, all countries.

I know this is long, but bear with me, please, for it's worth knowing.

But the most insidious aspect of SSSS is that it is completely undetectable by those being targeted. Because it delivers its subliminal programming directly to the human brain via the auditory sense at frequencies that humans are incapable of perceiving as sound, there is no defense against it. Everyone on the planet is equally susceptible to mind control via SSSS and there isn’t any escape from it, as the UHF waves can be transmitted over very long distances from remotely located sources and will pass through walls and other objects as if they are not there. UHF is the frequency (100mhz) that has been used for television and radio broadcasting for as long as these media have existed. SSSS is designed to utilize UHF as a carrier wave.
Even more insidious, though, is the fact that, coupled with the use of supercomputers, an individual’s unique electroencephalographic (EEG) patterns can be digitally altered and then stored for rebroadcast via digital UHF. According to Judy Wall, editor and publisher of Resonance, the newsletter of the Bioelectromagnetics Special Interest Group, these computer-enhanced EEGs “can identify and isolate the brain’s low-amplitude ’emotion signature clusters,’ synthesise them and store them on another computer. In other words, by studying the subtle characteristic brainwave patterns that occur when a subject experiences a particular emotion, scientists have been able to identify the concomitant brainwave pattern and can now duplicate it.” These modified emotion signature clusters can then be broadcast over UHF carrier frequencies (i.e., regular TV and radio signals) directly into the brain where they can then “silently trigger the same basic emotion in another human being.” In other words, if the emotional signature cluster for, say, a feeling of hopelessness and despair is being fed directly into your brain via unseen radio waves, you will feel those emotions. The implications of this are, quite literally, mind boggling.

I love music, completely. But yes, I absolutely DO have some concerns. A lot of them, in fact. Emotions, thoughts and images. All of it. That sounds pretty much like an anti-language to me.

Enjoy your weekend.
tetra

This is creepy interesting, right up my alley good find , weird. a reply to: Kantzveldt