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The Language of Vampyr

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posted on May, 6 2015 @ 05:07 PM
a reply to: Direne
wow dude! Do you always assume and stretch things so far. That's quite thrifty of you reusing such concepts over and over, I have always said that we should recycle words as well. But anyways what makes you think that your imaginary gray dwarfs have children in the first place. With all the possible ways one could propagate out there its pretty far reached conclusion indeed.

And your numbers mean nothing, because you do not have the total conscious willpower to make it work and so far have been running on others reality. In fact numbers are the gray dwarfs game, they practically invented that, were you see a tree they would see a combinations of 0 and 1s. So really, you may actually one day start talking in plain sense, and before traversing the vastness of the cosmos you may want to stick to something more easier, like traversing the night and day gap, or the pond, or learning how to speak and write and get an accurate message across, and then much latter, some hundreds of thousands of years from now in humanities future, then maybe we can accurately traverse space or dimensions.

Till then, a wall would stop all of you in your tracks and a hyperbole would have you running in circles waving wands around in the air saying "expelitus deletus" you all to big for your breaches, playing play pretend in the world of words. But hey on the internet anybody can be anybody, and even that has its walls and its confines.

posted on May, 6 2015 @ 05:08 PM

originally posted by: Direne
No, no bullets. I will talk with the guys in "Ask everything you wanted to..." and will rephrase the question. In any case, we will need those bullets, just to prove if that antigravity thing they rub in our faces really works. Just wait. Right?

This is currently beyond me. Google is getting a good work out. I need to discuss certain things with my brother (my translator) which will better enable me to survey without getting sidetracked by madly enticing I have been for the last hour or so...started on geometricised units, ended up in thermodynamics. Entrophic force seems deeply interesting though.

Anyhoo...I can wait if you can

posted on May, 6 2015 @ 06:34 PM
It seems a lesson on inter/intra dimensional movement is on the cards. I for one look forward to the ride.

posted on May, 6 2015 @ 11:17 PM
a reply to: galadofwarthethird

So, according to you, "numbers are the gray dwarfs game, they practically invented that, were you see a tree they would see a combinations of 0 and 1s."

wow dude! Do you always assume and stretch things so far??

posted on May, 7 2015 @ 02:14 AM
a reply to: Direne

The Sumerians had a particular God for making small holes in walls and allowing the shades to pass though, Sisig son of Utu, a Deity of wind and dreams, that transforms darkness into light.

Enkidu exits the hole made in the netherworld he explains that Utu "As one who daily makes the journey from the Netherworld to the land of the living, the sun god is uniquely positioned to open such a hole. Enkidu's shade duly escapes through a chink in the wall like a pigeon flying from its nook

The word in question, Sum.ab.làl// Akk. takkapu, signifies a small opening in the city wall of the Netherworld: The dead shades were often perceived as bird-like in form

The child of the sun-god Utu, light up for him the netherworld, the place of darkness!
Let him set up a threshold there as bright as the moon
For all mankind whatever their names be, for those whose statues were fashioned in days of yore,
For the heroes, the young men
From there the strong and mighty will march out.
Without him no light would be there during the month ne-izi-gar,
during the festival of the ghosts
The youths and the strong men, on seeing the lunar crescent,
without him they should not make light!
Sisig the son of Utu makes light in the dark places! "

Winds and dreams seem at one time to have been considered the same thing for the name of the god of dreams Sisig means "the winds" or "the ever blowing one." The point of similarity is apparently the evanescence of the dream world, on awakening it is gone like the wind

In the dream experience the dreamer moves about and acts independently of his stationary body and this may underlie the notion of separate mode of being, as "spirit" as in evanescent manifestation that would arise and pass on like the wind. One word for it was lil2, and was sig3-sig3, which denoted the god of dreams. Both words mean "wind." The lil2 can be that of a living person or one dead, of one awake or one asleep, it can occur of its own volition to plead its case or to ask for help or it can be called; and it is, it seems, capable of engendering a child. There is no proper translation for it in English

The idea that the future is born in the nether world finds confirmation in the Babylonian understanding of the nature of dreams. This means that dreams are merely a variety of ghosts. As such, they fall under the authority and regulations of the sun god, who transports them from Below to Above, in the same manner as he brings up ghosts in necromantic rites.....Thus, there is a complete analogy between the future and dreams: both of them are created by - and actually are - the sun god.

Of course it's very unlikely that a wall could ever be constructed that could keep out Sisig, indeed he could transform the entire house into so much wind.

"The good house which is no mere cane brake turned into wind only, its interior is mere wind, its outside is mere wind, its interior has been destroyed into wind."

Revisions on Sisig

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posted on May, 7 2015 @ 03:01 AM
a reply to: Kantzveldt

Yes. That's the Sisig way, the only one working. Microholes. Planckian ones. The way ahead, and thru.

posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:48 AM
a reply to: Direne
Hey what the hell. That's what I said. It is most excellent of you to reuse and recycle words, see it was not hard and much easier then coming up with your own answer.

Besides for all you know were talking about imaginary things here. Besides if you want to know about gray dwarfs, well why dont you ask them. It is supper effective.

posted on May, 7 2015 @ 03:03 PM
a reply to: Direne

Mr. Everett claimed that the formalism of quantum mechanics, taken completely literally, describes a reality where every macroscopic superposition of quantum states is really a splitting of the universe into parallel copies.

I'm a tad behind (as usual), but while I'm thinking of it, here is a talk (and thread about it) that has resonated in many conversations on this board, lately... a logical, apparently well known to some, walk through why it must be either the many universe theory or NO universe theory... no in between.

The Quantum Conspiracy Thread

Anyway, fascinating, engaging and obtuse (to some)... as usual.

edit: and IF the many universe theory is not correct, then we're back to an actual phantasm universe... and then what? We wake up... and keep waking up? Dumb Buddhists... always the first to arrive at the places where thought takes a sentient creature.

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posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:19 PM
a reply to: Direne

Okay, I'm up to speed (in my own way), my brother was unfamiliar with Planck's Length so worked with the Constants.

In terms of "Quantum Tunnelling" it looks like your customers may have grounds for suit.

Gray dwarfs, being able to pass back and forth...I have yet to said, step by step. Simply thinking of the getting through the wall, as a one way process, it is not impossible but would be dependent upon a correlating set of events. Specifically, we* need to consider what the walls are containing or keeping out, and the environments on both sides of the begin with.

edit on 7-5-2015 by Anaana because: lack of joining words

ETA: By "we", I mean us here, discussing the situation brother has no interest in this discussion (we can only pity him I am afraid), but he serves as my lingua to speak.
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posted on May, 7 2015 @ 06:52 PM
And another thought brought by this layman's understanding of physics... and perhaps a tad OT.. but the universe is expanding...

as it is explained in one source, space is growing, but the objects in space are not... like 'raisins in a rising loaf of raisin bread'... or dots printed on an inflating balloon... huh... so how fast is the expansion and does that mean we are getting more diffuse? Are our atoms just getting further away from each other... and if so, won't the forces that bind us together diminish with distance ... or are we growing along with the very space we exist in?

If the atoms stay the same relative size while space grows, will we become so diffuse that we appear as huge, wispy ghosts as other galaxies and clumps of matter thin out? Or are we all growing/inflating together, relative to each other... space and particles both "inflating", so that we appear stable, but in fact have grown from a speck to the size of a solar system in a few seconds if one could stand outside of space, observing us?

And if we, or our constituent parts, remain the same "size" while the empty space expands (into what? Heh) what about the physical forces that diminish over distance? Aren't we then destined to "fuzz out" once the atoms are far enough from one another so that the forces no longer bind?

And if we are, instead, growing-expanding along with our universe as it must be (think growing to the size of a mountain in a moment) then how can we perceive the universe expanding? Everything is growing at once.. .so how can we see growth...expansion?

Does anyone else see what I'm trying to convey? It's a paradox formed from my ignorance of the higher maths describing this, I'm sure, but some searching has brought up zilch.

Anyway, back to dreaming relative reality...

posted on May, 7 2015 @ 11:06 PM
a reply to: Direne

So I am bored and watching Enterprise on netflix (not much saving me from boredom) but in the episode Cold Front there is a time traveler (Daniels) who dons a device that allows him to phase through the walls of the ship...I do not believe in coincidence so let's call it Synchronicity.

It got me thinking...if you could actually get time down to an incredibly small controllable scale with specific timing enough to knowing exactly when the electromagnetic information is being passed from atom to atom. You could potentially predict the displacement the quantum flow of information within an object. But because each object is made of Billions of atoms I would have no idea how you could align them with the time of another object thus allowing the vast distance of space between the atoms in say your body and the wall to pass through each other...

But I would love to know how you would even begin to predict this let alone if the object would ever be in sync?

Now I will sleep on it in the meanwhile...

Very specifically for Direne, but Kantz as well...actually anyone reading this thread and being confused this might help...

Notice the posting date of the video...then notice when I wrote this exactly a year later. Coincidence or timing or synchronicity? It is a question of mind over matter? I don't mind because it doesn't matter.
How do we know what is real?
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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:00 AM
The deeper reality suggested by the existence of entanglement is so unlike the world of everyday experience that until recently, many physicists believed it was interesting only for abstract theoretical reasons. They accepted that the microscopic world of elementary particles could become curiously entangled, but those entangled states were assumed to be fleeting and have no practical consequences for the world as we experience it. That view is rapidly changing.

Scientists are now finding that there are ways in which the effects of microscopic entanglements “scale up” into our macroscopic world. Entangled connections between carefully prepared atomic-sized objects can persist over many miles. There are theoretical descriptions showing how tasks can be accomplished by entangled groups without the members of the group communicating with each other in any conventional way.

Some scientists suggest that the remarkable degree of coherence displayed in living systems might depend in some
fundamental way on quantum effects like entanglement. Others suggest that conscious awareness is caused or related in some important way to entangled particles in the brain. Some even propose that the entire universe is a single, self-entangled object.

If these speculations are correct, then what would human experience be like in such an interconnected universe?

("Entangled Minds: Extrasensory Experiences in a Quantum Reality", by Dean Radin, Paraview Pocket Books)

To an observer whose eye movements are not synchronized with the screen it is obvious (a) that at any moment the screen contains almost nothing but x’s and (b) that what is on the screen is constantly changing. However, to the experimental subject, whose eye movements are synchronized, the screen looks like a perfectly normal page of
text. To convey just how good the illusion is Grimes records that one of the first people to conduct an experiment of this kind served as the first experimental subject; after a while he sat back from the apparatus and announced that something must be wrong with the system because the text was not changing—though it was, in fact, working perfectly.

("Mind and Matter", by D.M. Appleby,

posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:19 AM

originally posted by: Direne
If these speculations are correct, then what would human experience be like in such an interconnected universe?
("Mind and Matter", by D.M. Appleby,

It would mean that for some of us we already know we are interconnected and very possibly entangled with others of our nature.

Direne are you here to enlighten or recruit or find who you are entangled with?
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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 01:06 AM
a reply to: abeverage

You used to create worlds. Landscapes. From distant worlds. Sitting in front of your computer. I am sure you remember those days. And you used to dream of them. I am sure you remember those nights.

posted on May, 8 2015 @ 02:27 AM
So far I have gained a little understanding about QM, consciousness, and the connection of both.

The understanding is still incomplete, something is still amiss.

However, this may be Step 3 (still in progress) :

posted on May, 8 2015 @ 10:21 AM

originally posted by: Direne
a reply to: abeverage

You used to create worlds. Landscapes. From distant worlds. Sitting in front of your computer. I am sure you remember those days. And you used to dream of them. I am sure you remember those nights.

Why do you say "Used to" past tense? And how did you know? Do you remember you know me? Very odd you would know I create anything but who knows...

posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:06 AM
a reply to: Direne

Hey D.

Glad to see you here old friend.


posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:37 PM
a reply to: Direne


Careful.This is far from Enoch. Your very clever.

I also hope you are not doing well.


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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:51 PM
a reply to: Digital_Reality

Hello Isimud. Someone once took Enoch for a ride in what he described as "an angelic spaceship". The funny thing is that there were two Enochs.

The first one was son of Cain, brother of Abel, the first human killed by another human.

posted on May, 8 2015 @ 01:15 PM
a reply to: Direne

Yes. Your knowledge of Cain and Enoch is extensive. I read all of your books and we both know your stance. Nothing but love and respect for you Direne.

I still miss our late night (early morning for you) mash-ups on the occult. Not sure why it all went the way it did. I emailed you.

You know how to find me.


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