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The big MEGA-BANKS are fixing to TAKE OVER and manipulate THE WHOLE ECONOMY.

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posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 07:36 PM
They've out grown the financial industry and now they're ready to start taking control of the rest of the world's economy as well. Not satisfied with just manipulating money and credit, they've moved on to tangible assets and services in their bid to control the whole damn world.

Giant Banks Take Over Real Economy As Well As Financial System …
Enabling Manipulation On a Vast Scale

They also say that the big financial players are able to manipulate virtually every market in the world.

And that the government has given the banks huge subsidies … which they are using for speculation and other things which don’t help the economy.

But the big banks have only gotten bigger – and more interconnected – than before the phony financial “reform” legislation was passed a couple of years ago.

As if that wasn’t bad enough, four congressmen point out that the big banks are not taking over the tangible economy as well … which allows them to control and manipulate the markets.

Washington's Blog

They're taking over the oil industry, precious metals and even utility and transportation companies. Soon, they'll control the whole of the economy from both the financial sector and the tangible sector. With their ability to manipulate credit and debt and the markets, is there anything to keep them from taking over everything?

A few congressmen are asking the Fed how they can regulate this new power grab but, it may be too little too late.

Morgan Stanley imported 4 million barrels of oil and petroleum products into the United States in June, 2012.Goldman Sachs stores aluminum in vast warehouses in Detroit as well as serving as a commodities derivatives dealer.[ii] This “bank” is also expanding into the ownership and operation of airports, toll roads, and ports.[iii] JP Morgan markets electricity in California.

In other words, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and Morgan Stanley are no longer just banks – they have effectively become oil companies, port and airport operators, commodities dealers, and electric utilities as well. This is causing unforeseen problems for the industrial sector of the economy. For example, Coca Cola has filed a complaint with the London Metal Exchange that Goldman Sachs was hoarding aluminum. JP Morgan is currently being probed by regulators for manipulating power prices in California, where the “bank” was marketing electricity from power plants it controlled. We don’t know what other price manipulation could be occurring due to potential informational advantages accruing to derivatives dealers who also market and sell commodities. The long shadow of Enron could loom in these activities.

According to legal scholar Saule Omarova, over the past five years, there has been a “quiet transformation of U.S. financial holding companies.” These financial services companies have become global merchants that seek to extract rent from any commercial or financial business activity within their reach.[iv] They have used legal authority in Graham-Leach-Bliley to subvert the “foundational principle of separation of banking from commerce”. This shift has many consequences for our economy, and for bank regulators. We wonder how the Federal Reserve is responding to this shift.

Huffington Post

Is this the endgame? Are the big banks finally ready to crush all competition and openly take over the whole of the economy and, in effect, the whole world? Is there any force left in the world that has the might or the backbone to stand up to them?

It looks to me that the end times are here and it isn't Satan rising to take the throne to rule over humanity, its the Banksters instead (then again, who can really tell the difference?)

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posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 07:48 PM
Are you of the opinion that the banks don't already own the economy?

posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 08:00 PM

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee
Are you of the opinion that the banks don't already own the economy?

They're supposed to be limited to the financial side of the economy; controlling credit and financial services but, not actively running or controlling the physical aspect of the economy. They have probably exerted their influence through the financial sector to control these markets all along but, now they are doing it openly and directly.

Banks aren't supposed to own factories or power plants directly. They're supposed to help finance those who do. The fact that they are so openly breaking loose from their traditional assigned roles may be an indicator that they believe they are powerful enough that they are unstoppable.

They are no longer hiding their intentions.

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posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 08:00 PM
The United States government is beyond rogue at this point. Our government is actively engaged in criminal activity and telling us that it's just too bad, that's how it goes even when the said criminal activity is broadcast on their own media.

They don't deny ignoring the constitution, the fourth amendment, acknowledge they are spying on us in violation of law and all people are talking about is Edward Snowden and not who is going to jail for authorizing that decision.

We supply military aid, equipment and funding to the tunes of billions of dollars a year to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, a known and dangerous terrorist organization, the same people our government is raping our rights to "protect" us from. Purge all records of the Bin Laden raid from the Pentagon and away from ever finding out the truth, much like the Pentagon video footage from 9/11 and the Sandy Hook video footage that exposes the lies.

They commit Fast and Furious with the proven agenda of compromising our second amendment rights, lie to the entire nation and stonewall anyone who asks for answers and no one is punished. They further lead an assault on our second amendment in every way possible AFTER they commit this act and are caught and yet still Americans insist there would never be a need to defend our liberty against tyranny.

They continue to erode our rights to speech, our rights to free press, our fourth amendment rights and meet any opposition with increasing brutality, intimidation and force to make an example of any person or any group that challenges their ever increasing authoritarian control.

This is NOT the United States government I want nor the one I trust or will swear my allegiance too. I am an American, I am American by my birth right on this soil and the history of my forefathers who fought to ensure that I and my children would be free, free to enjoy liberty and the pursuit of happiness without the burden of a totalitarian, oppressive and hostile government and I will ensure to the best of my ability until my death that I honor that responsibility as a citizen of this great nation.

Self serving laws bread by corporate greed and lusting for money and power have brought this county to it's knees and even Eric Holder has admitted that the big banks, the corporations, the ones that control the true power to change our laws, our economy and our way of life are too big for our government in it's current form to prosecute. The corporations and banks have become and ARE the government.

In the meantime, we have swat teams, helicopters and armored vehicles actively blocking entire city blocks and arresting Adam Kokesh for a victimless crime, a crime that shouldn't be honored because the supreme court has struck the "law" down. Yet, you and I, the tax payer can flip the bill for this, for needless wars, for drone striking women and children but you couldn't take a White House tour if you wanted too.

Our king, Obama is too busy taking vacation after vacation, golfing and going on state wide tours at the cost of billions of dollars to us to notice how intensely the problems have now become, he, this administration along with most in our government are content to continue to escalate the problems because they know it is so far out of control that there can be no reigning in of the corruption, the horse is out of the gate. To admit the system is illegitimate is to admit that they are as well and power will never implode upon itself.

This madness will not end until we act, it will not end until every American is touched by the greed, the corruption, the fear and the brutality of this government, it will not end until we put a stop to it. Take a look around, you live in a box, a prison, a prison of laws meant to allow those that rule over you to dictate everything you do less they label you as a certain word, terrorist........ They will take all of your rights, all that you have and make an example of you to scare anyone else who would expose the criminals they are.

Terrorism, was created because of a guilty conscious, the government knew that they could not maintain the dollar standard for oil and world economic control unless they abandoned the principles and morals this country was built upon and they also knew that Americans would display disent for these unjust actions and they had to devise a plan to ensure that domestic uprising would not become an issue in the face of these crimes against humanity.

This way of thinking is what created the blind eye to 9/11 and what led to the Patriot Act which I am completely sure had already been drafted and awaiting implementation and which has been furthered and expanded upon by the Obama administration. This country has been taken over, it has been infiltrated, secured and is now operating by those that have been put in place directly by money provided from special interests. The continuation, expansion and gross conflict of ideals of American society that these "terrorism" laws are being implemented are only serving one purpose and it is one of enslavement to the American citizen.

Research Nazi Germany, research how they enacted laws to neutralize the public before they assaulted the entire world under an iron fist. We are tearing a page out of the history books with this government only we are doing it with a new enemy and by doing so, they are confusing you into not recognizing the similarities.

In parting, a truly free, democratic based society, a republic......... Has laws. Those laws apply to everyone because the government, it's agents and contractors are nothing more than public servants who as the framers had envisioned serve the people because they are from the people. We do not have that. The government in it's current state recognizes no laws, breaks them with impunity and arrogance and assaults those who would speak out in one form or the other.

There is no accountability in our government, no regresses to crimes committed, no action is taken when they blatantly cross the line outside of lawsuits that when if they are ultimately found guilty WE have to pay with our tax dollars. It'a a kangaroo government led by an agenda straight out of 1984 and all I can say is that George Orwell would have said..........

I told you so.

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posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 08:01 PM
reply to post by FortAnthem

A couple of things to note. .. .. .

If there is obvious manipulation of the markets, it is sure to Not end well. How is it the SEC is not all over this?

Secondly, ALCOA supplies Coca Cola with Aluminum for their cans. So why is Coke the one lodging the complaint?

posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 08:07 PM

Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
reply to post by FortAnthem

A couple of things to note. .. .. .

If there is obvious manipulation of the markets, it is sure to Not end well. How is it the SEC is not all over this?

Secondly, ALCOA supplies Coca Cola with Aluminum for their cans. So why is Coke the one lodging the complaint?

The SEC should be all over this but, the banks are too big to jail now.

As for Coca Cola and ALCOA; the banks are hoarding their aluminum, keeping it out of the market and driving up the price, costing Coke more money to make its cans. That is why they are protesting the bank's move.

posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 08:13 PM
reply to post by FortAnthem

How about the investors?
What if they get pi$$ed and sell all of their stock in those commodities?
Megabanks better watch their backs or they could end up with commodities that are not worth chump change.

posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 08:20 PM
I'm pretty sure the "power grab" actually has a method to the madness, and goal to the supposed dictatorship... and it's not merely to dictate.

If they drive up the prices of the correct items, we'll effectively be forced to curb our "over-consumption" and be put on a more sustainable path.

It seems to me they tried to do it an easier way, and the average individual was too ignorant and selfish. Now they're left to do "gods work".

Just a thought.

One things for sure, they don't do this "just cause", and certainly think of the majority of us as too stupid for our own good.

Are they honestly wrong

posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 08:31 PM
reply to post by QuantriQueptidez

Certainly you don't think they are doing this for the Greater Good, .. do you?

That is a hard Cement Block to swallow.

They are Money Hungry, They are Power Hungry, They are Control Hungry.

Compassionate, Caring, and Selfless They Are Not.

posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 08:38 PM
Alcoa is owned by the big financial institutes. They can do whatever they want. Good thread OP.

Who owns Alcoa?

STATE STREET CORPORATION owns 56.83M shares worth $484.22M
Vanguard owns 47.80M shares worth $407.23M
Manning & Napier Advisors owns 30.82M shares worth $262.60M
JPMORGAN CHASE & CO owns 25.87M shares worth $226.37M
Inves owns 21.75M shares worth $185.32M
GOLDMAN SACHS owns 15.29M shares worth $130.30M
I.G. Investment Management owns 10.18M shares worth $88.38M
Charles Schwab Investment Management owns 7.80M shares worth $65.41M
Credit Suisse AG owns 7.56M shares worth $64.42M
Geode Capital Management owns 6.99M shares worth $59.56M
UBS AG owns 6.64M shares worth $58.79M
D. E. Shaw & Co owns 5.62M shares worth $48.79M
Elm Ridge Management owns 5.60M shares worth $56.15M
GAM Holding owns 5.58M shares worth $55.88M
Perkins Investment Management owns 5.32M shares worth $46.51M
Citi owns 5.10M shares worth $44.14M
TCW owns 4.95M shares worth $49.62M

Financial institutes can do whatever they want. If they screw up, the government is right there to bail them out. Between the crooks in the government and the evil banks, there's not a whole lot of options for the simple enslaved people. The accountability departments have all been paid off. A revolt would be the answer but people are past their prime in doing the right thing, it's simply too easy not to. And quite frankly, would it really do any good? It's SSDD. Apathy is the new slave master and we accepted it with a smile.
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posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 08:44 PM
reply to post by ShadellacZumbrum

Look, a hero is but a different twig sharing the same branch with psychopathy.

Judging someones actions as "compassionate" or not depends on how much information you have available about the situation at hand to properly discern their intent.

It's really easy to think of them as evil, greedy monsters. It's much more difficult to stop and ponder if this is actually necessary.

posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 08:49 PM
reply to post by ShadellacZumbrum

How about the investors? What if they get pi$$ed and sell all of their stock in those commodities? Megabanks better watch their backs or they could end up with commodities that are not worth chump change.

Exactly, and the perfect way to gain the commodity on the cheap. Since they are already into the commodities market, holding AL and forcing Coke to possibly sell plays directly into their hands. In the end they control both commodities, AL and Coke. Once they have gained Coke the price of AL will lower, investors will once again climb on the Coke band wagon and the banks make a triple killing. Don't expect the SEC to intervene, the banks hold the purse and the SEC needs money to operate.

As the old saying goes; I don't care what laws you make as long as I control your money.

posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 09:08 PM
This is no surprise.

JP Morgan put Tesla out of business in favor of Thomas Edison because there was more money in it for him, and that was almost 100 years ago. The same banks today have instrumented several market crashes over the decades, without recourse whatsoever.

It's all about the banks. They control everything, and it has been defined concretely, not in a conspiracy mannered way.

You can read it in THIS paper, and I'll include some of the details here:

The structure of the control network of transnational corporations affects global market competition and financial stability. So far, only small national samples were studied and there was no appropriate methodology to assess control globally. We present the first investigation of the architecture of the international ownership network, along with the computation of the control held by each global player. We find that transnational corporations form a giant bow-tie structure and that a large portion of control flows to a small tightly-knit core of financial institutions. This core can be seen as an economic “super-entity” that raises new important issues both for researchers and policy makers.

How did they arrive at this (page 3-4, definitely look at the diagrams):

We start from a list of 43060 TNCs identified according to the OECD definition, taken from a sample of about 30 million economic actors contained in the Orbis 2007 database (see SI Appendix, Sec. 2). We then apply a recursive search (Fig. S1 and SI Appendix, Sec. 2) which singles out, for the first time to our knowledge, the network of all the ownership pathways originating from and pointing to TNCs (Fig. S2). The resulting TNC network includes 600508 nodes and 1006987 ownership ties.

It goes on to say:

Constructing a Lorenz-like curve (Fig. 3) allows one to identify the fraction of top holders holding cumulatively 80% of the total network control. Thus, the smaller this fraction, the higher the concentration. In principle, one could expect inequality of control to be comparable to inequality of income across households and firms, since shares of most corporations are publicly accessible in stock markets. In contrast, we find that only 737 top holders accumulate 80% of the control over the value of all TNCs (see also the list of the top 50 holders in Tbl. S1 of SI Appendix, Sec. 8.3).
We find that, despite its small size, the core holds collectively a large fraction of the total network control. In detail, nearly 4/10 of the control over the economic value of TNCs in the world is held, via a complicated web of ownership relations, by a group of 147 TNCs in the core, which has almost full control over itself. The top holders within the core can thus be thought of as an economic “super-entity” in the global network of corporations.

So who are these top 50 wonderful trans-national corporations??? (TNCs)

Using the site LittleSis.Org, you can start looking up each one on the list and it doesn't take long to see the connections and understand why we are in the dilemma we are today. It's not just us, it's the entire WORLD! A very small group of probably a few thousand people, control everything and everyone else down the pyramid. That group will not compete with each other and will do whatever is necessary to keep their control. They don't care about paper money, it's just converted to actual wealth, such as land, jewels, metals, etc.

If we want to change things, it has to start by tearing down these people and the structures they support. It isn't the Government(s), they are beholden to the money men.

Government: "I need 50 billion dollars to feed the hungry"
Moneymen: "Ok, but you're going to pass these laws and regulations to protect our interests..."
Government: "But this money is to FEED people who are starving, how is that right or fair?"
Moneymen: "It's not, so stfu and do what we say or the printing presses don't move."
Government: "American public, we've passed laws to protect Monsanto and Big Pharma, and we don't owe you an explanation as to why, so get over it."

Or something like that....

It's got to start with the money men, otherwise, it's pointless.


posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 09:21 PM
reply to post by FortAnthem

Who says they cannot ? I understand what it is you are attempting to point out but we have an open economy and a free market. Loaning money is an investment in that economy and its return is slow so maybe they have decided to cut out the middle man and attempt to buy and finance their own opportunities and increase the money they invest through direct compensation.

For as long as insurance companies have been around offering policies against fires and floods and other natural disasters they have invested the monies earned from premiums in owning other companies and other outside investments other than what is purely the insurance business....its how they stay in business other wise just premium payments would put them out of business real quick after the first natural disaster.

Perhaps the banks have now discovered that by investing directly with not only money but by management they can increase profits. Is it a good thing ? Is it a bad thing ? Only time will tell...but the facts are that the banks and other finance institutions already control the products you mentioned...if they did not loan money then that business would not exist. As long as we have a free economy then this is expected...its always about the money...period and if they can make more then they will go for it.

posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 09:26 PM
reply to post by StoutBroux

Holy Hell .. Their supplier is in bed with the dirty 'ol scurvey ridin' sons a dogs.

No wonder Coke is crying Foul.

Welp,.,. .. I guess it is time to Invent Cheap Plastic Cans.

posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 09:28 PM
Hold your horses foolish debtors!

Everything is hunky-dory
a- okay
right as rain
going gangbusters
don't worry be happy
keep consuming

Do NOT listen to these "Nattering Nabobs of Negativism"

Everything is good to go
in the bag
piece of cake
fine and dandy
rags to riches
high as a kite
double high five

Thanks for asking.

Beware of claims to the contrary.

The fiat USD is infallible. Infallible I tell you!

Trust me. (smiles)

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posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 10:20 PM
reply to post by FortAnthem
I'm not really learned in the subject of banking and finance, but even someone as ignorant as me could guess that this has been the plan all along. Whoever has the most money rules the world, and the big banks just so happen to have the most money.

posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 11:12 PM
The greatest success the banks have had is a general public that believes anyone who thinks they control pretty much everything is a conspiracy theorist.
And if they do, well that's just good business.
The monster is too big to behold and too scary to contemplate.
As long as it doesn't eat me I'll just pretend it's not real.
LA LA LA......LA..........LALALA..........

posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 02:19 AM
Research the Investor Trade Dispute which was signed by our leaders in secret during the Trans-Pacific Strategic Economic Partnership agreement. Chinese companies can appeal our national laws to a tribunal, which already exists under the NAFTA agreement, whereby national laws are discarded in favor of the corporate interests 90% of the time!

The people are having more and more of our rights and freedoms taken away while corporate giants (globalists) are getting more and more rights and freedoms! How much is too much? When will people start to care?

posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 02:24 AM
It's out of control. Such as with student debt is doubled on new loans. No cap on the interest rates, they could go up at any time in the future. Really? But bailing out big banks is alright, they don't even have to repay. Big banks cry they want more? If not given they threaten to collapse the economy.

There's the issue between the politicians-wouldn't put it past 'em- backed by bankers, for example promoting this, which is outweighing what anyone can do against it or at least pretends to attempt(ahem, current administration).

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