Russia Says It Was the Syrian Rebels Who Used Chemical Weapons

reply to post by neo96


So according to you neo NATO and Company are both Reliable?

reply to post by Swills


Hmmmm.

Well, it could be Iranians posing as Rebels, or Russians planting Chemical Weapons. Could even be Rebels using them.


I mean anything is possible.

Russia has too far of a stake in this War, to try and "claim" something. Just like Iran.

reply to post by sonnny1


Well sure, I guess if we use our conspiracy imaginations it could be anyone and there's always more to the story than meets the eye ( ). The facts are sarin gas was used, low tech sarin gas and Al Qaeda has already been busted not only with said gas but making it as well. Those are the facts.

Originally posted by all2human
reply to post by neo96

 

It is illegal constitutionally and according to international law.

edit on 10-7-2013 by all2human because: (no reason given)

Tell that to Russia, and Al Queda, and FSA, and hell EVERYONE ELSE in the world.

reply to post by neo96


Russia is legally fulfilling it's contractual agreements with Syria,and has a legal standing mutual defence pact with Syria.
Apples and onions..
Politically supporting,Funding,training,arming,commanding and providing drone support to terrorist organizations,including a national enemy to overthrow an sovereign governent is not.
www.guardian.co.uk...

reply to post by Swills

What do you mean what's my point? You missed it, really? My point is the West is already guilty of creating and supporting Al Qaeda, not Russia. A

Seriously?

SERIOUSLY?

The RUSSIAN invasion of Afghanistan CREATED the mujahideen who in '89 later formed AL Qadea.

Then :

Some financing for al-Qaeda in the 1990s came from the personal wealth of Osama bin Laden.[62] By 2001 Afghanistan had become politically complex and mired. With many financial sources for al-Qaeda, Bin Laden's financing role may have become comparatively minor. Sources in 2001 could also have included Jamaa Al-Islamiyya and Islamic Jihad, both associated with Afghan-based Egyptians.[63] Other sources of income in 2001 included the heroin trade and donations from supporters in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other Islamic countries.[62] A WikiLeaks released memo from the United States Secretary of State sent in 2009 asserted that the primary source of funding of Sunni terrorist groups worldwide was Saudi Arabia.[64]

en.wikipedia.org...

The insurgents received military training in neighboring Pakistan and China, as well as[8] billions of dollars from the United States, United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, and other countries.[

en.wikipedia.org...

The WEST?

The WEST?

OH HELL NO that crap is not going to fly anyone pushing that all on the WEST is pushing intellectual dishonesty.

reply to post by neo96


Are you implying the 'west" is not supporting Al-Qaeda in Syria now? or funded the movement immensely in the 1980's?
Al-Qaeda is a western designed concept,it was supported then and it is now.
www.theinsider.org...

[DP

Originally posted by all2human
reply to post by neo96

 

Are you implying the 'west" is not supporting Al-Qaeda in Syria? or funded them immensely in the 1980's?

Bother reading anything WHAT SO EVER in THIS POST ?

Doesn't sound like it.

Back to the bunny video previously linked in the thread potassium chlorate was easily seen..

Potassium chlorate is used in explosives,matches,fireworks and is not the ideal source of use as FAS says:

Efficiency is not particularly high in that a good deal of the agent is lost by incineration in the initial blast and by being forced onto the ground.

www.fas.org...

Without an efficient delivery system rather pointless so to repeat PROPAGANDA VIDEO in a confined space potassium chlorate alone is enough to kill da rabbit.

The Material Safety Data Sheet, MSDS, for potassium chlorate states that it is "toxic to blood, kidneys, lungs, the nervous system, liver and mucous membranes." Repeated or prolonged exposure can cause serious damage to the affected areas.

www.livestrong.com...

Wait just a minute OP....You mean these guys? - - >



McCain says these are good guys, so they must be..

Trust our Leaders, our best interest is what drives them.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Swills

 

What do you mean what's my point? You missed it, really? My point is the West is already guilty of creating and supporting Al Qaeda, not Russia. A

Seriously?

SERIOUSLY?

The RUSSIAN invasion of Afghanistan CREATED the mujahideen who in '89 later formed AL Qadea.

Then :

Some financing for al-Qaeda in the 1990s came from the personal wealth of Osama bin Laden.[62] By 2001 Afghanistan had become politically complex and mired. With many financial sources for al-Qaeda, Bin Laden's financing role may have become comparatively minor. Sources in 2001 could also have included Jamaa Al-Islamiyya and Islamic Jihad, both associated with Afghan-based Egyptians.[63] Other sources of income in 2001 included the heroin trade and donations from supporters in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other Islamic countries.[62] A WikiLeaks released memo from the United States Secretary of State sent in 2009 asserted that the primary source of funding of Sunni terrorist groups worldwide was Saudi Arabia.[64]

en.wikipedia.org...

The insurgents received military training in neighboring Pakistan and China, as well as[8] billions of dollars from the United States, United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, and other countries.[

en.wikipedia.org...

The WEST?

The WEST?

OH HELL NO that crap is not going to fly anyone pushing that all on the WEST is pushing intellectual dishonesty.

edit on 10-7-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

Yes because of the RUSSIAN invasion the USA supported the mujahideen later turned Al CIAeda, but you're right, Russia did it

The insurgents received military training in neighboring Pakistan and China, as well as[8] billions of dollars from the United States, United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, and other countries.

Oh okay, lets clarify then, it was the West and friends

reply to post by neo96


Sorry Neo your wrong in that post of yours.

The RUSSIAN invasion of Afghanistan CREATED the mujahideen who in '89 later formed AL Qadea.

The Russian liberation of Afghanistan did not created the mujahideen its pretty clear that you dont whom created them.

And honestly wikipedia as a source?

reply to post by neo96


Like I said before, you may be right and that video is all BS. That video was one of the early indicators that rebel terrorists had chemical weapons in Syra. Whether that video is real or not it doesn't matter now because Al Qaeda has already been busted making sarin gas in Iraq and in possession of it in Turkey but there's no way the strongest fighting force the FSA had could possibly have some too! Let's just ignore that.

Russia, you bastards!

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by neo96

 

Sorry Neo your wrong in that post of yours.

The RUSSIAN invasion of Afghanistan CREATED the mujahideen who in '89 later formed AL Qadea.

The Russian liberation of Afghanistan did not created the mujahideen its pretty clear that you dont whom created them.

And honestly wikipedia as a source?

What?

'The Russian liberation'

So the mujideen was not created by the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan?

This thread can't get any more ridiculous.

reply to post by neo96


Hmmm tricky way to state your question. We all agree the mujideen was not created by the Soviet themselves but because of the invasion the jihad mujideen took shape to combat the invaders. And since the Cold War was going strong the US (& friends) supported, trained, and funded the mujideen who later became Al Qaeda.

Just a clarification so there's no more confusion.

reply to post by Swills

Like I said before, you may be right and that video is all BS

Well

That video was one of the early indicators that rebel terrorists had chemical weapons in Syra.

Then it stands to reason 'chemical weapons in Syria' is BS. If they are making stuff up that leads to a huge credibility gap.

because Al Qaeda has already been busted making sarin gas in Iraq and in possession of it in Turkey

Sources please.

Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by neo96

 

Hmmm tricky way to state your question. We all agree the mujideen was not created by the Soviet themselves but because of the invasion the jihad mujideen took shape to combat the invaders. And since the Cold War was going strong the US (& friends) supported, trained, and funded the mujideen who later became Al Qaeda.

Just a clarification so there's no more confusion.

So there' s no more confusion had the Soviets not INVADED Afghanistan would Al Qaeda exist?

Nope.

There is enough 'blame' to go around my only issue is 'ALL the west's fault'.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Swills

 

Like I said before, you may be right and that video is all BS

Well

That video was one of the early indicators that rebel terrorists had chemical weapons in Syra.

Then it stands to reason 'chemical weapons in Syria' is BS. If they are making stuff up that leads to a huge credibility gap.

because Al Qaeda has already been busted making sarin gas in Iraq and in possession of it in Turkey

Sources please.

First of all, whoever was in that video didn't claim what terrorist outfit they hailed from, if memory serves, so they could have been the real McCoy or just actors but like I said the facts are Al Qaeda has the gas and is producing the gas.

My sources are on page 1. You missed them? Right above the bunny video.

The best-known mujahideen were the various loosely aligned Afghan opposition groups, which initially rebelled against the government of the pro-Soviet Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (DRA) during the late 1970s. At the DRA's request, the Soviet Union brought forces into the country to aid the government. The mujahideen fought against Soviet and DRA troops during the Soviet War in Afghanistan and were supported by United States' assistance. After the Soviet Union pulled out of the conflict in the late 1980s, the mujahideen fought each other for control in the subsequent Afghan Civil War.[3

Suddenly WIKI is not good enough

So?

Who created who?

rebelled against the government of the pro-Soviet Democratic Republic of Afghanistan

That would be RUSSIA created AL Qadea.