Ill. Rep Requests National Guard Help Stop Chicago Violence

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posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:01 PM
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Ill. Rep Requests National Guard Help Stop Chicago Violence


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CHICAGO, Ill. (IRN) - Gun violence in Chicago is so severe that a state lawmaker wants state police and the National Guard to assist the local cops.
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posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:01 PM
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So why does the national guard need to be called in?

After all Chicago has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country. that have been proven not to work.

Is this a part of some nefarious plan to militarize the country even more than it already is, and I agree with those who say we have already gone off the cliff over being over reactionary.

The police becoming more militarized by the day, The average citizen has never been more at a disadvantage between the police, and the criminal.

Over the holiday weekend 74 people were shot 12 killed, gun laws not working, the police 'overwhelmed' fret not residents of Chicago the national guard is here to save the day..

That is a bridge too far imo.

I report You decide.

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posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:03 PM
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And It is NOT gun violence people need to stop blaming things they need to start holding PEOPLE accountable for their actions.

Gun violence is a political talking point that just pulls on heart strings that ushers in more draconian laws that solves nothing.
edit on 10-7-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:09 PM
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Lol it can't be the gun control laws that are the problem. Nope we totally need to just declare war on these criminals and send in the National Guard. These politicians couldn't legislate a high school student council...



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:10 PM
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a bridge too far? that's funny.

every week coming onto to this site for about 10years now the government is going too far. what a crock of crap.

the government has always and will always do what it likes. there is nothing people can do about it except bit ch about it on sites like this.

anyway, good to see they are finally doing something about gun crime. maybe when they get the guard in place they might feeling get sense and start disarming the public.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:12 PM
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I say that there should be stricter punishments for repeat offenders of certain crimes. Perhaps even make, say the business districts, like school zones in the way that the punishments are more severe. I believe that would quell a little of the violence...

It's only going to get worse as it gets deeper into summer here in the Northern Hemisphere. And it seems as though it's getting worse every year. Drastic measures need to be taken in one area or another.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:12 PM
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I agree that people are the problem and guns are just the tools. I agree entirely.

Having said that, the people aren't even the problem in Chicago. Just ONE person. Mayor Rahmbo. Chicago wasn't an open war zone with a dozen to two dozen bodies a weekend, damn near every weekend like it was a local sport before he took office. "took office".. lol.. That's a hoot. He took a position to campaign himself to the next higher one and to hell with Chicago in the mean time.

That's the problem, IMO. You could remove every gun or give everyone M-60's. As long as the Mayor is a part timer with more focus on fund raising and politicking? It won't matter to my thinking.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:13 PM
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Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of all the corrupt city officials and corrupt police personnel and replace them with honest, hardworking people that want to uphold the law and clean up the city? The criminals can only take over when those who are supposed to police them aren't doing their jobs. With attractive incentive packages they could attract quality applicants and would have no need to call in the National Guard.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by littled16
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Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of all the corrupt city officials and corrupt police personnel and replace them with honest, hardworking people that want to uphold the law and clean up the city? The criminals can only take over when those who are supposed to police them aren't doing their jobs. With attractive incentive packages they could attract quality applicants and would have no need to call in the National Guard.



Yep but we are talking about politician here and after being proven to be ineffective their solution is more government, and more totalitarianism.

Rinse and Repeat.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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stricter punishments won't save the farm

the guns and ammo keep getting smuggled in by the hour

all the 'perps' are likely first time offenders and rarely get caught anyway

and they could care less about 'punishment'

i wonder if fast & furious weapons have shown up in Chicago yet ?



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:22 PM
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No but Sharia law will...



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:26 PM
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They bring in the National Guard... To do what? Go door to door looking, with unlawful entry to "see" if the house has guns and the owner has a FOID card??? Massive break in Constitutional right.

National Guard going to walk the streets??? It will be "Gorilla Warfare" on the streets of Chicago...
Not that the National Guard can't "handle" just saying...

It will most definately be interesting to see how this one pans out~



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:26 PM
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The National Guard is not the military, its the militia...
Military is the Fed, National Guard is the State. The State National Guard can be activated for law enforcement at the request of the State Governor, or that of a neighboring state. National Guard does not fall under posse comitatus.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by defcon5
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The National Guard is not the military, its the militia...
Military is the Fed, National Guard is the State. The State National Guard can be activated for law enforcement at the request of the State Governor, or that of a neighboring state. National Guard does not fall under posse comitatus.


True but I recall the National Guard off fighting in Iraq, and Afghanistan so militia fights off in far away distant lands.

'winning hearts, and minds' that is tantamount to 'occupation forces' much like what the full time military does.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:30 PM
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Sulaw if you get some good gun fight video you should post it here so we can watch the show up close. I'll get the popcorn and beer ready while you steel plate your outer walls!



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:32 PM
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Chicago had riots in 1968 with National Guard.

1968 Chicago Race Riot


When Martin Luther King was shot, it was immediately recognized as the spark that would set off another round of violence in 1968. In the wake of the assassination there were 2,600 fires and 21,270 injuries nationwide. By noon on the day after the shooting groups of young black people had gathered throughout the city. The violence began with smashed store windows and looting; arson and sniper attacks soon followed. By 2:00 p.m. the governor had dispatched over 600 members of the Illinois National Guard and Mayor Daley had sent out the entire Chicago fire department and borrowed fire departments from eight suburbs. Fires raged throughout the city, completely engulfing many black neighborhoods. Power lines to the predominantly black West Side were now dead, leaving that part of the city in darkness, and giving cover and encouragement for more looting.

As the violence entered its second day, Mayor Daley began to try and take back the city. 1,500 more National Guardsmen were put on the streets. A 7:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. curfew was imposed on people less than 21 years of age. Liquor sales were banned in areas with "serious disorder." Troops patrolled the city in jeeps and military deployments guarded every intersection on the West Side. That night was much quieter, but far from tranquil. Molotov cocktails were still being thrown, buildings were still being torched, and snipers were still shooting at firemen.





posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by littled16
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Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of all the corrupt city officials and corrupt police personnel and replace them with honest, hardworking people that want to uphold the law and clean up the city? The criminals can only take over when those who are supposed to police them aren't doing their jobs. With attractive incentive packages they could attract quality applicants and would have no need to call in the National Guard.



We are talking about Chicago here, the city that has been bought by the mob. If you wanted to get rid of all the corrupt politicians, you'd have to throw the lot out and start over.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:35 PM
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The recently allowed concealed carry in Illinois...now just wait and see the freedoms of being able to defend yourself. Violence will go down.



posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:47 PM
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posted on Jul, 10 2013 @ 03:47 PM
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Illinois enacts nation's final concealed-gun law,

What that city needs is MORE guns. Because nothing solves gun related violence like MORE guns. Just ask the drug cartels.





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