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Originally posted by citizenx1
Originally posted by seabag
I for one could care less about...
"Couldn't" - you "couldn't" care less.
Saying you "could" care less indicates you care about it and that is clearly not your intent.
We gave you a language, kindly use it.
Until the current nuclear nations relinquish their weapons then Iran has every right to arm itself.
To act against that is an act of war and the aggressors will get no sympathy from me if they suffer consequences for their actions.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by citizenx1
By that logic, the fact the Nuclear Club cannot un-invent what most would love to un-invent means all 200+ nations on Earth have equal rights to demand the same Nuclear warheads be a part of their inventory right?
We ought to just throw out all ideas of non-proliferation or not seeing these spread until they eventually get into hands eager to use them?
Personally, I've never bought the idea Iran is making warheads anyway. They most certainly DO have a Military nuclear research complex. It's called Parchin and the Iranians actually use the fact it IS a military nuclear facility to argue against inspections, since the agreements only allow for civilian facility inspections. What are they making with nuclear technology under Military efforts? Well.... I've always figured EMP/Neutron or even propulsion tech in an entirely new direction from everyone else. They are a budding space power with solid accomplishments in that area, after all.
Stuxnet was just kicking a hornets nest, IMO
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by citizenx1
Until the current nuclear nations relinquish their weapons then Iran has every right to arm itself.
There are winners and losers in life. US is at the top of the food chain. European nations are at the top of the food chain. We don’t take orders to disarm from any country, especially a country that hasn’t even left the stone ages.
To act against that is an act of war and the aggressors will get no sympathy from me if they suffer consequences for their actions.
Originally posted by seabag
Originally posted by citizenx1
Originally posted by seabag
I for one could care less about...
"Couldn't" - you "couldn't" care less.
Saying you "could" care less indicates you care about it and that is clearly not your intent.
We gave you a language, kindly use it.
No need for personal attacks, professor. This isn't a grammar course.
Resorting to petty grammar corrections is a sure sign your argument is failing.
Try to stay on topic.
Originally posted by Senduko
reply to post by seabag
This is getting ridiculous, really please tell me, how can you stand and trust the years of information provided by YOUR corrupt government as truth?
I know right, it really is hard to understand when you see all the people blindly following and believing everything Snowden says.
Originally posted by seabag " a measured response to Iran's refusal to be forthright."
Originally posted by Armadall
I'm not very familiar with rt.com, how credible have they been in the past?
Not for much longer - in every sense the US is entering a period of massive decline whilst countries of the east are going to become the predominant economic and military force.
It is only hubris which prevents some from seeing this.
Would we even notice? Iran is a joke economically and militarily. A country with such a horrible record of human rights violations and exporting and funding of terrorism certainly should not be permitted to have nukes...and they won't.
Wonder if that will be the prevailing view if countries like Iran take up arms against their aggressors.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
The United States making Stuxnet is secondary, since US Authors or at least close help with Israeli programmers was already common knowledge and only missed someone who saw it directly to say so.
I'm far more interested in this "web of foreign partners" he refers to. He's already gone WAY past simply exposing wrongdoing by the US against the US, so why stop here and now? Lets hear all of it...and spit out the names of those 'foreign partners'.
The impression seems to be left that the U.S. is Pappa Smurf to the world wide intelligence system when I think it's far closer to the truth that the U.S. is the 'gizmo store' that supplies almost all the high tech toys and through the NSA, coordinates and directs much of what happens ....but as members of an international effort which so far? No one seems to be asking too hard for names on.
He finally eluded to the existence of this world wide club we're but members of...not the undisputed leader of. Now, details!edit on 9-7-2013 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)