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reply posted on 9-11-2004 @ 02:25 PM by edsinger
Originally posted by DurdenWhen I get older, huh? Get a clue, edsinger.



Well I guess I should have said wiser but that would not accomplish anything. Look if you want concrete facts and want to hold it in your hand then I can not make you hold it, but I can tell you that the information I post is just as legit as what you do. The perspectives are different thats all.


Originally posted by Durden
Oh, would I now? Then maybe you would be the leader of witch-hunts back in the day... Still no credible evidence you'd like to share to support your opinion, btw?


Look has the Osama in Baghdad visit been explained? If they were such mortal enemies then Osama would not have made it out alive.

As I have stated many of times, the old arab saying that "the enemy of your enemy is your friend" bears credence here. The 911 report plainly states that there were connections but no CONCRETE PROOF of collabaration. The article I posted would be a decent reason as to why they met and had contacts. If we can find the proof that the documents in which I posted show that Saddam was funding or involved in the Somalia fiasco, then you would have your evidence.

Even though Rumsfeld was cautious

www.abovetopsecret.com...


the documents sure paint a different picture than the one you attempt to present.


Jan. 18, 1993 memo from Saddam Hussein, through his secretary, to the Iraqi Intelligence Service, urging that missions be undertaken to "hunt down Americans," especially in Somalia.




Originally posted by Durden
I asked you to pull your head out. This is not an issue about political preference.


many more can be found as well as the translations here
www.cnsnews.com...\\Nation\\archive\\200410\\NAT20041011a.html


I would say that Saddam and Osama must have had an agreement as Osama never attemted to get rid of Saddam, maybe they worked togther towards a common goal , who knows. But America was the enemy of both.





Originally posted by Durden
Don't confuse the outcome of the election with the opinion of the majority of US citizens when it comes to the attack on Iraq.


Oh ok, well

Three in Four Say If Iraq Did Not Have WMD or Support al Qaeda, US Should Not Have Gone to War

Saddam's Intent to Build WMD Not Seen as Sufficient Reason

Majority Believes Iraq Situation Getting Worse, But Only 1 in 5 Want to Withdraw


But he got re-elected even though the public in general has no clue to the facts and the assumed facts. Some things will never be proven, and did you notice this one?

Only 1 in 5 Want to Withdraw

We have a job to finish and the only way to do so is to win.





Originally posted by Aelita

The originator of this thread, as it would appear, needs the feel righteous and fill the void that would otherwise exist inside him. The original paper he quoted and which I took time to read, contains conjectures and outright desinformation. The 9/11 report didn't conclude any ties between Osama and Saddam, and there is multitude of sources that looked at that and came to same conclusion, Osama and Saddam were unfriednly to each other at best, and in fact enemies (Saddam was a secular leader whereas OBL is an ultrareligious fanatic).

Whatever it takes, edsinger, whatever it takes...


I have no voids,

outright disinformation? Care to elaborate?

Unfriendly forces do not meet as AlQada and Saddam's folks did. Again why would Osama be allowed in Baghdad? True, I agree that Saddam was Islamic only in "show", but he also had things that Osama needed and was probably willing to sell them.

After 911, the chance that Saddam would play nice just could not stand anymore, PERIOD. He had made the sanctions all but moot, of course now we know why dont we? The claims of the deaths during sanctions were always directed at the United States, although it was the UN that imposed them and yet would not enforce them.

I do not live in a dreamworld, I live in one that is hostile to my way of life and my country. We deal with threats as they come. 911 was not the first strike against us, but it was the first to draw a serious response, and one that I think Bin Ladin miscalculated on, IMHO.


reply posted on 9-11-2004 @ 02:55 PM by marg6043
Edsinger I have to bring this to your attention the paper you show was discredited, as part of a pro-war prove of Sadam involved on 9/11 the papers were provided by Ahmed Chalabi those paper were shady.




TextChalabi even participated in a secret Defense Policy Board meeting just a few days after the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York and the Pentagon in which the main topic of discussion, according to the 'Wall Street Journal', was how 9/11 could be used as a pretext for attacking Iraq. [10]



Also the prime minister of Iraq also tried to used documents to show the link of Sadam and Al-qaida but they were also shady.



Text'The new document, supposedly written by the chief of the Iraqi intelligence service ... doesn't say exactly when Atta was supposed to have actually flown to Baghdad. But the memo is dated July 1, 2001, and [Telegraph reporter Con] Coughlin himself places the trip as the summer of 2001.

"'The problem with this, say U.S. law enforcement officials, is that the FBI has compiled a highly detailed time line for Atta's movements throughout the spring and summer of 2001 based on a mountain of documentary evidence, including airline records, ATM withdrawals and hotel receipts. Those records show Atta crisscrossing the United States during this period -- making only one overseas trip, an 11-day visit to Spain that didn't begin until six days after the date of the Iraqi memo.'"




It is lots of document brough up by this two men Chalabi and Allawi they both have a common goal and that is to get control of Iraq.

Sorry.






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