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White House won't say whether Egypt was a coup

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posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 05:08 PM
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The White House is taking its time to determine whether the overthrow of Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi was a coup because of the potential fallout from calling it one, press secretary Jay Carney said Monday.



"I'm being very clear with you ... this is a complex and difficult issue with significant consequences," Carney said during his daily briefing, the first since Egypt's military ousted Morsi nearly a week ago. Calling the action a coup could cut off more than $1.5 billion in annual U.S. foreign aid for Egypt.


www.politico.com...

Now this is some BS.

They don't want to call it a coup why?

Because of the tried and true playing both sides against the middle strategy the White House is infamous for.

Straight up CALL IT A COUP and end the aid, should have never been getting it in the first place.

The White House is playing a very dangerous game here it doesn't give a ratts behind about the Egyptian people just its influence in the region.

Which is why Mubarak, and Morsi both got US aid what a complete and total lack of any morals or ethics by the current regime from mordor.

I report you decide.


edit on 8-7-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 05:12 PM
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posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 05:52 PM
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Why would they want to say it is? Heck where was our secretary of state during this debacle? Out sailing of course! Asleep at the wheel again was the administration. To call the event a coup would require a clarification of where the administration stands in regards to Egypt, after supporting Morsi it would leave them looking like fools to turn around now and say it was a coup and not have done anything. Both parties have been guilty of leaving allies to sway with the wind. This maybe the first time a US administration has gotten to do it twice! Hence why most countries look at the US as they do, sure they will take our money and other aid. Just don't expect the US to actually help you when the excrement hits the spinning thing



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 06:02 PM
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They are probably afraid to make an official statement because they haven't got a clue as to what is really happening in Egypt. Nobody tells the Obama White House anything anymore because nobody trusts anyone who works in the administration. Our current administration started out as the hope of the world and has turned out to be it's biggest disappointment. The US has been caught one time too many with it's pants down, and now the rest of the world wants a divorce- but they still want generous alimony payments!



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 06:14 PM
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Obama is not a leader.

He is not a decision-maker.

He is a community organizer who is still way out of his league in this job!

He leads from behind. He is afraid of making a decision. He is afraid of making a decisive statement.

He is surrounded by synchophantic yes-men who won't make a poo unless it has been run through several polling analysis groups.

He'll finally come out with a statement, right after the last check has cleared to the Muslim Brotherhood.



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 06:17 PM
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Just more proof of Eastwood was right.

He is an empty chair.



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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Just more proof of Eastwood was right.

He is an empty chair.


A empty chair has uses. It has a function. An empty chair doesn't create more problems by it being an empty chair.

I WISH Obama was an empty chair!



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 06:30 PM
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A empty chair has uses. It has a function. An empty chair doesn't create more problems by it being an empty chair. I WISH Obama was an empty chair!


Too Funny!

What's even more funny?

He is suppose to make 'government smarter'.



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 06:32 PM
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We are talking about a coupe deville?

Right?





posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 06:42 PM
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Dunno, I'd probably call it the overthrow of a democratically elected president. If that wouldn't tongue tie another democratically elected, but unpopular president I don't know what would.



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
Now this is some BS.

They don't want to call it a coup why?



Its an Israel thing.

Back in 1979 there was the Egypt–Israel Peace Treaty, and part of that agreement was the deal that Egypt would not go to war with Israel, if the USA gave Egypt billions of dollars each year.

But... of course if the recent thing in Egypt is a "coup", then the deal is off and Egypt dont get the billions of dollars of bribe money, which would mean there is then nothing stopping Egypt from going to war with Israel.

Thats what its all about. Israel.

So thats why the USA will *never* call recent events a "coup".
Israel would never allow it.

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posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 06:50 PM
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Well since people want to point fingers fine:

Rather easy to say Iran and its MOIS/VEVAK destabiilzed both Egypt two times now, and Syria to buy time to finish building the bomb.

Egypt and Syria just a delaying action.

Back to the topic at hand of buying 'friends' in the middle east that is just a chess move to keep Eastern powers from stepping in.
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posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 06:52 PM
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Heard anything about Benghazi lately now that their snowman is in play?


If half of this country actually watched the news online then Obama would be gone by now.

The Blatant hypocrisy he openly admits is beyond high treason. The people marched in mass to get rid of Mubarak and Obama now claims all these people were for the Muslim Brotherhood and the army is at fault but he wont dare call it a Coup. His Muslim buddies wont get any money then.



No.Those millions of people who demanded the Muslim Brotherhood leave power peacefully did not warrant a response from Obama but OMG when a thousand of his buddies from the Muslim Brotherhood protest being handed their hat by beating people Obama comes out against the Egyptian army who did their job, Protecting the people from a Tyrannical government and its thugs.



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 06:55 PM
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Is the sky Blue, Purple or Yellow? The people in the White House seem unable to answer a simple question with only one correct answer and two possible choices. Hell, Carney could at least guess and have 50/50 odds. Give their track record when they intend to be accurate? It's no worse than normal.

The way they ARE handling it shows the total inability to take a position on taking a position for something blatantly obvious. After all, if aid wasn't tied to the term, the term would take effort to get wrong.



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 07:02 PM
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Dunno, I'd probably call it the overthrow of a democratically elected president. If that wouldn't tongue tie another democratically elected, but unpopular president I don't know what would.


And I would agree with you


Military ousting a political leader is a coup wether the White house likes it or not......trouble is we in the West have been told that military coups are carried out against tyrannical dictators......wouldn't do to have the unwashed masses thinking that it's possible to have the military (or anyone for that matter!) overthrow a democratically elected president



I'll bet there are a few western leaders sleeping uneasily at the moment.



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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Well since people want to point fingers fine:

Rather easy to say Iran and its MOIS/VEVAK destabiilzed both Egypt two times now, and Syria to buy time to finish building the bomb.

Egypt and Syria just a delaying action.

Back to the topic at hand of buying 'friends' in the middle east that is just a chess move to keep Eastern powers from stepping in.
edit on 8-7-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)


Well, actually you did bring up the reason the US sends aid to Egypt ...


Which is why Mubarak, and Morsi both got US aid what a complete and total lack of any morals or ethics by the current regime from mordor.


Alpha is factually correct in saying the aid package was set "in stone" with the Camp David Accords back in 1978, long before Mubarak or Morsi. Or Mr. Obama, for that matter.



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 07:08 PM
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Fully aware of how long the US has been trying to buy 'friends'.

It is a long practice that needs to end,.

ALL OF IT.



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 07:09 PM
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The white house has never been this wrong this badly this many times for this long at this high of a cost.
Making no decision has proven to be statistically safer than actually doing their jobs.



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 07:13 PM
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Actually I think the main reason that the White House is dithering over this is because if they admit that it is a military coup, then international laws will prevent them sending aid to Egypt.....and I suppose that would make them look like they are taking sides.




That's what they just said on BBC news any way



posted on Jul, 8 2013 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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Fully aware of how long the US has been trying to buy 'friends'.

It is a long practice that needs to end,.

ALL OF IT.


Well Carter wasn't exactly buying friends for the US with that treaty, just loading US taxpayers down with another boondoggle that had nothing to do with America or Americans. But you are right, its a practice that needs to end.

So what're we going to do to end it?



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