Edward Snowden Safely Lands In Venezuela - UNCONFIRMED

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posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 05:16 AM
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According to RT he's been offered asylum in Bolivia, Venezuela and Nicaragua. They say it is a matter of deciding travel arrangements and that the Russian government just wants him gone. There is talk of flying him to Vladivostok and then across the Pacific, rather than over US controlled Europe.

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posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 05:23 AM
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He also said that Lindsay Mills, his girlfriend who was living with him in Hawaii, was being a real “bummer” and this was as good an excuse as any to get away from that situation.

Lindsay Mills’ new boyfriend Paul Horner told the BBC News earlier this month that Snowden couldn’t handle commitment. “He’s just using this whole whistleblower thing as an excuse. The truth is, Lindsay is a great girl and Snowden really blew it by leaving her,” Horner said. “But she’s with me now and I’ll make sure to take real good care of her. America is here for their women in need, especially when that woman was left by a traitor to this country.”


This sounds too fake.

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posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 06:19 AM
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lets all hope he is safe



posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 06:21 AM
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I heard shes a stripper. Where do you think she met her new boyfriend? Probably met Snowden the same place. They both have something in common, big tippers.



posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 06:33 AM
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Didn't pious, Koran toting Mohammed Atta have a stripper girlfriend?

Anyway, Snowdon's relationship with Ms. Mills was on a much higher plane, I am shure. He was probably attracted to her cupcakes.

dailycaller.com...



Maybe she convinced him to "lay bare America's soul".
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posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 07:07 AM
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Wow, how did we go from being in Caracas to just receiving travel documents only to land on cupcakes?

Don't get me wrong, I love me some cupcakes!



posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 08:10 AM
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He is one lucky guy that MR Snowden. Venezuelan women are insanely beautiful.



posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 08:55 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if this is another ruse to trick the US and also I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.

You just never know these days.



posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 09:45 AM
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Word has it that he's to be flown to Vladivostok then over the Pacific out of reach of the American dictatorship.

The greatest irony here is that Russia becomes a relatively free country under Putin while USA languishes in its own excrement - ignoring the Bill of Rights and becomes what the Russians used to be - a bona fide dictatorship. Ha ha
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posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 10:03 AM
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If that is true, Mr. Snowden is running a big risk of being extradited to the US. After all, Venezuela has a long-standing extradition treaty with the US.

ARTICLE I

The Government of the United States of America and the Government of the United States of Venezuela agree to deliver up to justice, by means of requisition duly made as herein provided, any person who may be charged with or may have been convicted of any of the crimes committed within the jurisdiction of one of the Contracting Parties and specified in Article II of this Convention, while said person was actually within such jurisdiction when the crime was committed, and who shall seek an asylum or who shall be found within the territories of the other. Such surrender shall take place only upon such evidence of guilt as, according to the laws of the country in which the fugitive or accused shall be found, would justify his detention and commitment for trial if the crime or offense had been committed there

Venezuela / USA Intl Extradition Treaty



posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 10:03 AM
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And it's not like Venezuela is of no interest to the United States.

Out of the frying pan into the fire?



posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 10:16 AM
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This is all unconfirmed so far. No one really knows whats going on. Putin showed he had very little in the way of 'balls" and the countries that diverted that plane recently showed that they are just puppets not "allies"
Truly, one can see that the people in power are just servants and are just public faces to an unseen power that lies behind the curtain.



posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 10:23 AM
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Edward Snowden is cut from the same bolt of cloth as Thomas Paine, the founder of the American Revolution who incidentally was also a "high school drop-out". Snowden's actions will surely lead many to a closer study of the American Revolution - the reasons for it - and Paine's role in it. After all - it was Paine who wrote the Declaration of Independence.

Snowden follows in the footsteps of the greatest of American patriots.

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posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 10:36 AM
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Venezuela Extradite Snowden? Ha......fat chance........... read on.

Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro, left, talks with Bolivia's President Evo Morales during a welcome ceremony for presidents attending an extraordinary meeting in Cochabamba, Bolivia, Thursday, July 4, 2013. • AP

A third Latin American country is offering asylum to National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden.

AP reports that Bolivian President Evo Morales says Snowden is welcome in his country. Morales said he is making the offer as a protest against the U.S. and European nations he accuses of temporarily blocking his flight home from a Moscow summit because they suspected his might have Snowden on board.

Morales follows Presidents Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela and Daniel Ortega in making similar offers.

Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro, left, talks with Bolivia's President Evo Morales during a welcome ceremony for presidents attending an extraordinary meeting in Cochabamba, Bolivia, Thursday, July 4, 2013. • AP


Of course Snowden would still need to find a way into one of these countries, with welcoming leftist leaders. He's currently stuck in a diplomatic no-man's-land at the Moscow airport, his U.S. passport revoked, yet not granted official entry into Russia.

And if Snowden somehow makes it to Venezuela he'll find a U.S. extradition warrant awaiting him. The Guardian posted the entire document online, including fancy diplomatic language demanding his return to American soil.

The Embassy of the United States of America presents its compliments to the Ministry of Popular Power for External Relations of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela and has the honor to request the provisional arrest for the purpose of extradition of United States citizen Edward J. SNOWDEN, pursuant to the Treaty and Additional Article between the United States of America and the United States of Venezuela, signed on January 19 and 21, 1922 (the "Extradition Treaty").

The United States seeks SNOWDEN's provisional arrest should SNOWDEN seek to travel to or transit through Venezuela. SNOWDEN is a flight risk because of the substantial charges he is facing and his current and active attempts to remain a fugitive. The United States urges that SNOWDEN be kept in custody, if arrested.

U.S.-Venezuelan relations aren't exactly rosy, dating to socialist President Hugo Chávez's seizing of office in 1999. Tensions between the countries increased after Venezuela accused the George W. Bush administration of supporting a failed coup attempt in 2002 against Chavez. Venezuela broke off diplomatic relations with the U.S. in September 2008 in solidarity with Bolivia, after a U.S. ambassador was accused of cooperating with violent anti-government groups in that country, though relations were reestablished under President Barack Obama in June 2009.

The outlook for extradition from Nicaragua aren't much better. President Daniel Ortega is a longtime thorn in the side of the U.S., dating to the late Cold War era. A leader in the socialist Sandinista National Liberation Front, his policies in government have seen the implementation of leftist reforms across Nicaragua.

Politix, and via AP and The Guardian.


NOTE: Edward J. SNOWDEN, in CAPS as written in the document..........not a small thing btw.
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posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by PINGi14

He also said that Lindsay Mills, his girlfriend who was living with him in Hawaii, was being a real “bummer” and this was as good an excuse as any to get away from that situation.

Lindsay Mills’ new boyfriend Paul Horner told the BBC News earlier this month that Snowden couldn’t handle commitment. “He’s just using this whole whistleblower thing as an excuse. The truth is, Lindsay is a great girl and Snowden really blew it by leaving her,” Horner said. “But she’s with me now and I’ll make sure to take real good care of her. America is here for their women in need, especially when that woman was left by a traitor to this country.”


This sounds too fake.

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Yep, the puppet media is so desperate to tarnish Snowden they've had to resort to some of the most pathetically transparent BS they can come up with. It's actually pretty funny to see Obama's admin completely failing to tarnish him and having to sink as low as this, it makes me chuckle every time I see something like this



posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by AmerigoVespucci
The greatest irony here is that Russia becomes a relatively free country under Putin while USA languishes in its own excrement - ignoring the Bill of Rights and becomes what the Russians used to be - a bona fide dictatorship


I wouldn't sing the praises of Russia just yet. They are on the attack against the LGBT community right now, they're hardly a beacon of rights and liberties.


All countries have their little contradictions and abuses of citizens, and while Russia might be looking like the more reasonable one in comparison to the US in this instance, there is still a hell of a lot of Human rights violations and massive corruption there too.

The grass is most certainly not greener.



posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 11:33 AM
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Praise God that Putin does not want the LGBT's to contaminate his social structures. He is a leader with character and a strong 'Orthodox' religious and moral background. As the moral leader of his nation he has every right to condemn LGBT's - as do I, as a righteous Catholic. We find the whole idea to be abhorrent to human nature.

Amen to President Putin - and what do we upstanding moral citizens of the world have to say to the Marxist atheist Obama and his outright promotion of the LGBT's in America ??? I am not permitted to say here on ATS !

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posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 11:54 AM
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Tweet by Russian lawmaker on Snowden asylum deleted

Tribune news wire reports
10:47 a.m. CDT, July 9, 2013
[A tweet in which a senior Russian lawmaker said former U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden had accepted Venezuela's offer of asylum was deleted from his Twitter feed shortly after it was posted on Tuesday.


The lawmaker, Alexei Pushkov, later tweeted that he had seen the news on state-run Russian television channel Rossiya-24, but a representative of Rossiya-24 said it had been referring to Pushkov's initial tweet.
Pushkov, the pro-Kremlin chairman of the international affairs committee in the lower parliament house, could not immediately be reached for comment.

A Russian Foreign Ministry official declined immediate comment and the Venezuelan embassy in Moscow could not immediately be reached.

Snowden, who is wanted in the United States on espionage charges after revealing details of secret surveillance programmes, is believed to be holed up in the transit area at a Moscow airport where he arrived on June 23 from Hong Kong.

He has appealed to about 20 countries for asylum and Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said on Friday that he had decided to offer the 30-year-old American fugitive asylum. Nicaragua and Bolivia also have said they would take him in.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said Snowden should choose a final destination and go there as soon as possible, but it is unclear how he would get to any of the Latin American countries that have offered him asylum.

There are no direct flights from Moscow to Venezuela, Nicaragua or Bolivia, and U.S. authorities have urged nations around the world not to give Snowden refuge.


Reuters
Copyright © 2013 Chicago Tribune Company, LLC



posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 12:50 PM
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I agree with you on this one. The US can't control who flies or travels. They can only punish retroactively. I mean the US, by way of the FAA can make life miserable in little and large ways alike if the airline decides to disregard "suggested action" and ignores them then flies him to Cuba anyway. It's amazing to see here because there once was a time when that "suggestion" would have been enough.

I think cancelling his passport was cheesy but with a very real functional purpose. The public statement was just a side thing. What that did though was insure that he couldn't board an international flight anywhere in the world WITHOUT Government intervention and assistance. In other words, there is absolutely NO way another Hong Kong escape happens where "Duh... We dunno how it happened...it just happened..and uhh.. we didn't do it". The cancelled passport means real humans with real names and accountability later HAVE to be a part of it now.

I still don't think it changes anything, but you know Uncle Sam. Gotta pin people down so they can pin back blame of whatever happens later.



posted on Jul, 9 2013 @ 12:59 PM
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(summation)

Obama (during the campaign): We're going to extend the protection of government whistleblowers!

Snowden: Great! Guess what America, Uncle Sam has the ability to read any e-mail you ever sent, or any phone call you ever made, for the past couple decades!

Obama: Off with his head! Whistleblowers must die!

Snowden: But you said.....

Obama: And you all believed me???

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I'm still of the opinion that the real Snowden was killed soon after going public, and this traveler is a phony. If I'm wrong, then our leaders are completely NOT doing their job.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he came out with it...but he's also a loose canon who knows information that could pose a very serious national security risk, and has currently fled (if him) to TWO nations pointing nukes our way. Whether you agree or not, his bosses should have acted quickly to neutralize him. It's what I'd do in their shoes. (and then install an NSA intern to pose as him, until the story left the front and back pages.....)





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