Edward Snowden Safely Lands In Venezuela - UNCONFIRMED

reply to post by F4guy


So are you suggesting he would take a private plane with other officals? Or a commerical plane that travels from Moscow to Caracas without flying over US territory or friendlies?

reply to post by Rosinitiate
I hear you and believe that is probably how it will be handled but I was just reading this thread and I my spidey sense started tingling, going "why do they have to fly him out?".... but I do agree with you even if I just had to put that possibility forward.

reply to post by evc1shop


Well if Russia ever wanted to position itself as a country not remotely intimidated by the Americans, this would certainly be one helluva way to do it!!

Id probably say these where misleading dis info false claims, there is no way he is getting out of Russia without a fighter escort to the nearest friendly airport as soon as his plan is airborne

I would have thought that was obvious after forcing a presidential plane to land, there are probably just as many eyes and ears on Mr Snowden than there was on Osama Bin Laden in his final hours

So this form the Daily Mail:

Snowden has received a temporary travel document to fly to Caracas, Venezuela, and both Bolivia and Nicaragua have also offered him political asylum, but White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters during his regular briefing that the United States will do what it can to stop him.

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So it sounds like he has the travel docs to complete the trip, its just finding safe passage....

Again not easy to do! But not impossible.

Is it just me or does Edward Snowden and Jay Carney look eerily similar!



LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Double the pleasure, double the fun!

Originally posted by Rosinitiate
reply to post by F4guy

 

So are you suggesting he would take a private plane with other officals? Or a commerical plane that travels from Moscow to Caracas without flying over US territory or friendlies?

That same routing would apply whether it was private or scheduled airline, if it was a high altitude flight. To get a high altitude clearance you must specify a track. To go directly from Moscow to Caracas might have put them a little closer to,, but not necessarily over, the US. Going to Marti allows an earlier (more easterly) departure from the track. There are daily flights by Aeroflot, Lufthansa and maybe others from Moscow to Havana. The direct route is about 6,000 miles, so few private jets have the non-stop range.

I just finished checking the main venezuelan newspaper websites, I know spanish, nothing that confirms what the title of this thread claims. Sorry.

reply to post by Rosinitiate


According to RT they just got his asylum request.

Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro has confirmed that his country received a request for asylum from NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden on Monday. This comes after Nicaragua received his asylum application at its Moscow embassy.

The fugitive "will need to decide when he will fly here," added the Venezuelan head of state.
rt.com...

So I guess he is still in Russia and not in Venezuela.

-SAP-

If I was the Russians, i'd have him spirited to the coast and Put In a submarine, heading away from Moscow. He may still be headed to South America. By the time he arrives every country down there will have granted asylum.

America has waning influence there these days, they can waste resources playing Whack a Mole looking for him forever.

Or hire Mossad to find him the way they found all the Nazis down there.

Not very bright future for Snowden. Will he wind up pinned down somewhere in a self stylized prison like Assange? Maybe as time goes on the number of whistle blowers and Gitomo "detainees" will grow to the point that the cost of keeping them "sequestered" will break the bank.

C'mon whistle blowers!

reply to post by SloAnPainful


Fugitive eh? Language says a lot and so does a few choices left out of 21 attempts, according to reports. It sounds like he'll get his asylum in all likelihood and then go from the 110Mph life of first CIA Officer then NSA Contractor to being an average Joe or Jose as the case may be in one of those nations listed in the article. They sure won't be setting him up with top level accommodations. Particularly when he's down to the short list who haven't said No and those on it, know that fact.

His prospects for freedom look good but I'd say his thoughts to a comfy life aren't so hot. Average to lower average in anonymity forever is what I'd guess he's looking at in Nicaragua or Venezuela.

Originally posted by Rosinitiate

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
The PRlog press release on which the story is based has since been removed. This is likely false.

On a side note: At least I didn't reference BIN

LOL That's true.

2nd line!

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Don't get me wrong here... I don't feel that way at all, I think Snowden did the right thing...

Language in media is generally aimed at certain people. I think that a lot of people think Snowden is just that, a fugitive.

-SAP-

Double Post. -_-

reply to post by SloAnPainful


Oh, I was careful not to insert my own feelings about right or wrong, either way ..and the wording was a direct quote of the article, not of your own words. Perhaps I should have quoted over that part for clarity?

Indeed.. I was just thinking about his realistic future prospects. Whether he deserves better or worse seems secondary to what it will likely be at this point. I'll bet this isn't the set of choices he had in mind when planning all this out in advance.

Venezuela has been working with the US on drug cartel members.

en.wikipedia.org...

Arrest in Venezuela[edit]On September 18, 2012, Barrera was arrested by Venezuelan security forces in San Cristobal, a town ten miles from the Colombian border. The arrest was announced by Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos live on national television. According to Santos, Barrera was "the last of the great capos." According to Colombia's defense minister, Juan Carlos Pinzón, and the country's national police chief, the arrest was the result of a months-long cooperation between authorities from Colombia and Venezuela, U.K. intelligence agency MI6 and U.S. intelligence agency CIA.

So how long before the CIA or MI6 get him if he is in Venezuela?



Daniel Barrera arrest 'most important' blow to coc aine trade The global coc aine trade suffered the "most important" blow of "recent times" when the world's most wanted drugs baron was captured in Venezuela with the help of MI6.


[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/world/americas/daniel-barrera-top-colombian-drug-trafficker-is-captured.html?_r=0" target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">www.telegraph.co.uk... aine-trade.html[/u rl]

Daniel Barrera arrest 'most important' blow to coc aine trade The global coc aine trade suffered the "most important" blow of "recent times" when the world's most wanted drugs baron was captured in Venezuela with the help of MI6.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/world/americas/daniel-barrera-top-colombian-drug-trafficker-is-captured.html?_r=0

Mr. Santos, in televised remarks, said the operation that led to Mr. Barrera’s capture was directed from Washington and involved the cooperation of Venezuelan drug police, Colombian authorities, the C. I.A. and British intelligence officials.

"capture was directed from Washington"

reply toh post by Rosinitiate


Hoax!
I checked al Jazeera up and down. There are no such reports.
Why didnt they add the al jazeera link while they are referring to al jazeera?

THerefore: debunked!

reply to post by Rosinitiate


Al Jazeera IS NOT REPORTING THIS STORY ANYWHERE. Not on their live TV service, not on USA or Arabic news sites.

reply to post by evc1shop


Al Jazeera IS NOT REPORTING THIS STORY. IT IS TOTAL B.S.
I Checked all Al Jazeera Sources, TV and Newsites, no story about this anywhere, not even on live news update on. al Jazeera TV just NOW!!

Originally posted by Senduko
Lol not even on RT.

Btw, how did he get his boarding pass if his visum was turned to shreds...

As I understand it, the US government revoked his passport, but this was just a BS move to make them look at least a little less powerless. It doesn't matter whether someone has a passport or not, it's up to the receiving state to waive that demand as and when they like.

The US has no control over who flies around the world, although they would love to believe that they do. Revoking his passport was meaningless

As for the OP, I find these sources hard to believe. This is just another one of those glorified blogs that likes to pretend it's a news source, but really doesn't seem to have very much credibility at all.