reply to post by Wertdagf
Well religious beliefs are a disease and should be treated as such. Rightly saying that religious people have poisoned minds and are idiots doesn't
The only proper response to this sheer lack of self awareness is to laugh
You should spend less time fancying yourself as "compassionate" and more time reflecting on why you believe what you believe, and what gives you the
right to pontificate and tell others that their beliefs are "diseases" demanding correction.
This same type of religious chauvinism is seen in all the pigheaded fundamentalisms: Islam, Jewish, or Christian. They deny others simply because they
imagine themselves as being the sole possessors of "truth". You too. If you had a modicum of self awareness - which you manifestly do not have - you
would understand the arbitrariness - the selectivity - the visceral nature, of your belief system.
That you even agree with this maniacs horribly devised rhetoric shows how completely lost you are. Do you know how many atheists consider P.Z Myers
crusade against religion to be incredibly counter-productive? That instead of facilitating dialogue, it breeds contempt and distrust? Do you think
people like being patronized?
Maybe you should reflect on these facts before you go about "healing" us of our "diseased" belief. Or, you can simply ask yourself this one question:
if you are self aware - that is, not being subverted by your feelings - you will acknowledge that some things are categorically beyond our ability to
know. God is one of those concepts. It is not a "flying spaghetti monsters" - that horrifically unsophisticated argument hatched by Richard Dawkins
that seems to be popular amongst his hordes of followers, but an ultimate concept. Ultimate concepts are by definition beyond conditions. They are not
contingent on anything. This world, it's existence - the totality of it. A sphaghetti monster is a clear concept. God, however, is an elusive
. There's no image that goes along with it. There's only an intuition, a ratiocination, that this worlds existence must be
ontologically united in some primal cause. This cause need not be historical, but constitutive. When I say God, I do not mean "a being in the sky" - I
mean a force which pervades existence, which sustains existence, which IS existence. Since this force must be responsible for the design of things ,
He must also be simultaneously "outside" the natural order. This is called Panentheism by philosophers. God IS the world, natural law, and God is
simultaneous beyond it's limitations.
That's my philosophy
. Why do I believe this? Because I feel
it. It resonates
If it sounds like a disease to you, you can go # yourself.
Edit: just to be clear, I don't belittle other people's belief systems because I know how regulated they are by feelings and experiences. I try to be
conscious of the person, so I ignore our philosophical differences. If you're an atheist, cool, fine. You feel different about the God question. Your
metaphysics is built to suit your
feelings, not mine. I respect that.
edit on 8-7-2013 by Astrocyte because: (no reason given)