First off, thank you for stopping by and giving this thread a look. I have not made a thread in a while and I really enjoy trying to create new
threads that have thought provoking ideas. I am not stating in this thread that my idea is reality or fiction, it is just an idea.
This idea came from a post I made on a Saturn thread here from a while back. It has been percolating around in my head from time to time since then
and I just thought it would be an interesting topic for a thread. So, hopefully this sparks some imagination and thanks again for checking it out.
Rings Of Saturn. Could They Be A Message From The
To my eyes the Rings of Saturn appear to be very similar to what record grooves look like. Is it possible the Rings themselves could be a hidden
message encoded within our Solar System? Encrypted in plain sight, just patiently waiting to be discovered and finally have it's voice heard after
My theory is we should try to replicate the pattern of the Rings exactly onto a vinyl record and see if it plays anything back.
How thick are the Rings and what are they made of?
Saturn's rings are incredibly thin. The main rings are generally only about 30 feet (10 meters) thick, though parts of the main and other rings
can be several kilometers thick. The rings are made of dusty ice, in the form of boulder-sized and smaller chunks that gently collide with each other
as they orbit around Saturn. Saturn's gravitational field constantly disrupts these ice chunks, keeping them spread out and preventing them from
combining to form a moon. The rings have a slight pale reddish color due to the presence of organic material mixed with the water
Want to Know How Record Players Work?
-An awesome vintage 1958 video. It is essentially a commercial for it's product but I love the old way they explain how it works.(no need to watch in
entirety, explanation comes within first minute. Just sets a cool mood)
If one was to recreate the Rings, they would have to do it in portions I would imagine, because the question of scale comes to mind. I'm sure it
would be a daunting task to try to replicate the grooves. Maybe that's why it has not been done yet, lack of resources.
The ring system of Saturn is divided into 5 major components: the G, F, A, B, and C rings, listed from outside to inside (but in reality, these
major divisions are subdivided into thousands of individual ringlets). The F and G rings are thin and difficult to see, while the A, B, and C rings
are broad and easily visible. The large gap between the A ring and and the B ring is called the Cassini division.
(sense of scale)
Ring Name: A
Distance*: 122,050 km - 136,770 km/ 75,838 mi - 84,984 mi
Width: 14,600 km/ 9,072 mi
Ring Name: B
Distance*: 91,980 km - 117,580 km/ 57,153 mi - 73,060 mi
Width: 25,500 km/ 15,844 mi * The distance is measured from the planet center to the start of the ring.
The rings of Saturn have puzzled astronomers ever since they were discovered by Galileo in 1610, during the first telescopic observations of the
night sky. The puzzles have only increased since Voyagers 1 and 2 imaged the ring system extensively in 1980 and 1981.
photographs from the Voyager missions indicate that the rings of Saturn are composed of hundreds of thousands of "ringlets", and that regions like
the largest "gap" called the Cassini division, also contain fainter rings. The rings cannot be solid, because they lie inside the Roche limit. They
presumably represent either a satellite torn apart by tidal forces, or (more likely) material that was never allowed to condense into moons because of
the tidal forces. The evidence indicates that the rings are composed of particles that are mostly ice crystals, with sizes as large as centimeters or
meters. The total mass in the rings is about the size of a medium mass moon, and the rings are only about 10 km thick.
This is all just theoretical and I do not pretend to know any answers on any of this. I just enjoy thinking outside the box. One thing is for sure,
the Rings of Saturn will continue to puzzle our species along with all the other marvels of the Universe that we continue to unravel.
You do know they are not perfectly stable right? They are small bits of ice and dust spinning about and not a solid ring like a groove on a
However, the rings can be used similar to a seismograph!
The entire planet can vibrate like a bell within periods of a few hours, and these oscillations cause gravitational tugs that, in turn, create the
spiral patterns in the rings. The cause of the vibrations remains unknown.
i think its a brilliant idea!
a message waiting to be made into a record?
although it could be a new type of space music
a bangin' dance track or a classic classical piece
but i like the way you think hombre, one to think about for sure
Sadly I have to agree with previous posters who have pointed out that the rings are inconstant and too chaotic to hold any hidden messages ( at least
in the way you have theorized ). But I did want to comment to say that I am very impressed with the out of the box thinking that led you to asking
this question. Keep it up! You might swing and miss a few times... but when you finally do connect? It's going to be a home run.
Excellent theory well done. Having read peoples objections using the idea that the ring debris would not be stable, I can see your reasoning. But what
if this was precisely what was intended in designing the signal? The debris moving could be perceived the same way we measure earthquakes or for
instance, when we listen to music on our computer there is a bar that measures bass and volume throughout which moves up down and across. Just
thinking outside the box. S+F op
Rings forming, they could possibly store information. I can't say that the possibility does not exist. Remember though, the earth, along with other
planets, actually rides in a sort of ring but we cannot readily see the ring. Information is stored on earth, we are part of the storage process as
is all life here. Good thread your perception can be expanded and applied to many things. Information forms everything, a communication links all
matter. DNA acts as an antenna utilizing frequencies, changing frequencies contribute to evolution.
Since the Rings are not static then perhaps there could be a way to have a satellite read it as if it were the laser eye within a cd player. Even then
I would imagine it is not as easy as it sounds or it probably would of been done already. Maybe even, there have been scientists that have pondered
this but lack of resources have kept them from testing the idea.
Perhaps our technology is not yet at a point to measure/read such data. I love thinking about these kind of topics!
If there is information encoded then its going to have to be of sufficient size to be able to handle smaller bits of the ring hitting it so there will
probably be a minimum size of object which should actually remove probably 99% of the ring and leave you with the required data....however deciphering
that data is another problem
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