Originally posted by jude11
Originally posted by whyamIhere
Gestapo type checkpoints...
Show me your papers.
Dogs are just a ploy to obtain a phony warrant.
This should go viral....The kid still has rights.
At a DUI check point...from what I understand, you ask if the driver has been drinking and if there is reasonable suspicion, take a breath test. Now blood can be demanded or forcibly taken but that's another thread.
Do they have the right now to detain, search etc?
RIGHTS The "most sacred of liberties" of which Justice Tolman spoke was personal liberty. The definition of personal liberty is: "Personal liberty, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property ... and is regarded as inalienable." 16 C.J.S., Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987 This concept is further amplified by the definition of personal liberty: "Personal liberty largely consists of the Right of locomotion -- to go where and when one pleases -- only so far restrained as the Rights of others may make it necessary for the welfare of all other citizens. The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horse drawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but the common Right which he has under his Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Under this Constitutional guarantee one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another's Rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct." II Am.Jur. (1st) Constitutional Law, Sect.329, p.1135 and further ... "Personal liberty -- consists of the power of locomotion, of changing situations, of removing one's person to whatever place one's inclination may direct, without imprisonment or restraint unless by due process of law." Bovier's Law Dictionary, 1914 ed., Black's Law Dictionary, 5th ed.; Blackstone's Commentary 134; Hare, Constitution, Pg. 777
Originally posted by Brotherman
reply to post by raifordko
In texas they check your vagina for POT apparently
Constitutional Law surpasses state law in any state as far as I know, but has it ever dawned on you that constitution or not you were born with rights therefore you shouldnt need a piece of paper anyways to tell you about this as a libertarian I hope you have read this
The Law by Frederic Ba...
Originally posted by Brotherman
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
if anything it makes drunks drive i mean hardcore drunks drive earlier to avoid them read the links and do a little math read a little and draw a conclusion and make a stance this thread is dead I could go on forever about this topic but I did go pretty deep into research more than enough for a college paper just for a thread because i was suspicious lol you dont need to roll a window down all the way if this guy wasnt recording he might have been shackled and beaten and threatened to be electrocuted cause it happened to me once by harrisburg PA cops and i was in a cab something to think about
read the links about your phone you let them have checkpoints now what do you think happens next I could play rag doll all dayedit on 10-7-2013 by Brotherman because: (no reason given)
also my links dont provide evidence to much of anything unless you do the math yourself they claim 49% of all people killed on highways are by either A DUI or B Drugs but claim 1/4th of the 32800 + ppl killed on the highway each year is by cell phones but dont have a number also if you have alcohol in your trunk and the accident happens it is also an alcohol related fatality your numbers are cooked do the research put intellect first and emotions last just because you think does not make it right I really encourage you to actually read and research
Check this out as well If you would rather watch thingsedit on 10-7-2013 by Brotherman because: (no reason given)edit on 10-7-2013 by Brotherman because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Helious
The short answer is no, it's not legal. The long answer is that they do it anyway and if you force the issue, your are usually tasered, arrested, battered and go to jail. Perhaps you get off in court but that's after you post bail, pay to get your car out of the impound yard, hire a lawyer and pay all your legal fees, in the meantime, no action, none at all is taken against the officers who falsely arrested you. That's why they do it, because they don't care and there is no consequence for it.
Originally posted by raifordko
reply to post by Tylerdurden1
No, he doesn't speak the truth. IT ABSOLUTELY IS LEGAL! How are you people not getting that point? TN Passed state laws to allow it. They also passed definition changes to include DUI roadblocks to be considered a legal traffic stops (In case you don't understand that part, it means you must comply with reasonable requests of an officer while at the stop, this includes rolling your window down). This went to the supreme court of the united states and they said it is allowed constitutionally. So yes, it is absolutely legal and according to the court who determines if something is constitutional or not, they said it is.
Edit: If you don't like it, move to one of the 12 states who have banned DUI checkpoints (as all states should)edit on 15-7-2013 by raifordko because: (no reason given)