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Originally posted by TechUnique
reply to post by jude11
Jude.. That video says a lot.. If there was one video I could show people to wake them up it would be that. I honestly don't know and can't even begin to understand how people can still be enlisting into the armed forces in this day and age.
I wish I could understand because then maybe I could do something about it..
The world has gone to crap!
Originally posted by 3OGRE3
They join the army because they have created a demand for war, which must be satisfied to justify martial law.
The war on drugs,
the war on terror,
the war on cats, horses and any other living animal which breathes air,
the war on peace,
the war on war, war on everything possible! War is the best motivator to get people to join the army. . . . sort of like how it only takes a few weeks for a civilian to 'turn' into a prisoner, regardless of their innocence)... Some join for fiscal means, some join for honor and glory, some join because they have to, and others... well, others join because they support the war....
but don't mistake these people for idiots or sheep, just because they do not subscribe to our ideals and our moral stand points... this does not make them less than us, nor do be fooled that they are better than us. They are like us, in every way, looking to fulfill some sort of destiny or goal, and this is the path they have chosen.
We must respect them as we respect each other (not through the internet but in real life ) and in turn, we need not worry that they will turn against us, their own brothers, in the last hour. If we show them that we respect them but don't fear them, they will show us the same courtesy (I hope).
Originally posted by Rosinitiate
# is already hitting the fan boys and girls. People on this site are always saying what they are going to do when "SHTF" but um, look around you!
Originally posted by Kody27
Honestly, a common attitude here in America, that I have had the unfortunate opportunity to see firsthand many many times, is that teenagers want to sign up for the armed forces specifically just to kill people legally.
You don't know how many times I've asked someone why they want to join the army/navy/air force/marines and the only reply I get is "I just wanna kill people."
Seriously. My ex girlfriends little sister said she wanted a big change in her life. I said like what? She said she wanted to join the army so she could go kill people in Afghanistan. I said, what have they done to you? Usually I get the typical 9/11 response, but this time she just said it was literally for the enjoyment of killing people without consequence.
I mean these kids really think that there is no consequence to killing someone, just because of the legalities surrounding it.
I'm curious, though . . . were there any AUTHENTIC, congruent, healthy Christian young people in your sample. I'm not talking about church goers, per se. But youth who really walk the talk. I'd bet there were none in your sample. They are about the only ones that still have their heads somewhat above the brainwashing, conditioning, mass manipulations of the oligarchy.
Originally posted by Kody27
reply to post by BO XIAN
I'm curious, though . . . were there any AUTHENTIC, congruent, healthy Christian young people in your sample. . . .
Actually, I'd say most of the people in the armed forces, that I know anyway, heavily defend their choice to serve with their religion. Somehow they intertwine the two like they have something to do with each other.
They think that America is the good guy, and it's loved by God, and the Middle-East is somehow the bad guy, and they're all evil and wrong, yet somehow conveniently and coincidentally located on the largest portion of the world's oil supply....hmmmmm.
They feel as if they're honoring their religion and their God by "defending" the "innocent" people's freedoms...that are somehow under attack by people running their entire operation out of caves and are yet still able to outsmart and out maneuver the most advanced military in the world.
But anyway, yes alot of people that I went to college with at MTSU were in the air force because it was a school known for its aerospace program. Alot of them were very intelligent, stand up Christians who were devoted conservatives and servants of the armed forces. They're just brainwashed dogs that believe whatever luxury stories they're told growing up, and whatever they hear on the news and see on TV. Whatever the President, God, and Country tells them to do, whatever the Bible says is right, etc...
I just think these people are lacking something genetically that prevents them from wondering about things outside of their immediate perception.
They're fully stimulated and satisfied with surface explanations and systems of instant gratification so much so that their minds have become permanently set in a dangerous comfort zone that allows ancient and irrelevant traditions to smother their instincts.
Originally posted by Hijinx
People are stupid brother, well at least most of them. It's really sad but you see it everywhere you find people you just have to open your eyes and look and you will see.
"The more that sorrow and suffering has carved into our being, the more joy we can contain."
~ Kahlil Gibran
"All happiness for man must arise exclusively only in relation to some unhappiness, already experienced."
~ George Ivanovich Gurdjieff
But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”
Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. Your male and female servants and the best of your cattlec and donkeys he will take for his own use. He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”
But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.”
When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the Lord. The Lord answered, “Listen to them and give them a king.”
1 Samuel 8:6-22
How do we ENSURE that GOOD people will run the country? And furthermore, how the # do we ensure that these 'good' people don't get corrupted by years of having such power (it's clearly happened in the past...).
Originally posted by TechUnique
I've seen my brothers and sisters across the pond in your once beautiful country suffer at the hands of complete and utter fascists.