posted on Jul, 6 2013 @ 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Minus
I have for a long time wondered about the names in the bible, and how the church have decieved the population in the respective countries by changing
bible names into something more suitable.
For eksample John the Baptist - wonderd if any people in the middle east ever was named john?
In france his name is Jean
In spain his name is Juan
In denmark his name is Johannes
In Italy his name is Giovanni
Anybody know what his REAL name actually was?
And this disinformation goes for many many names in the bible just so people better can relate to them or is there a better explanation to this?
Would it have changed anything for the succes of christianity if they kept the original names?
The purpose of this is not dumb trash on religious people - but out of curiousity
I hope there is some good suggestions out there
edit on 4-7-2013 by Minus because: corrected spelling
I skimmed this thread because I just found it so I apologize if what I say has already been said.
Names are Very important.They aren't just a word to call someone for dinner.There is a reason that the NAME of God was venerated and then of course
perverted by that same worship.
A name is the nature of the thing named.It is in a sense a proclamation stating what Is.That is what is meant that Gods name [nature] is above all
(and no it has nothing to do with the nonsense of as above so below).
The translation of the name he told Moses is
אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה
Ehyeh asher ehyeh
"I will be what I will be"..not I Am or the tetragrammton(4 letter name) that turned into YHWH then YaHweH then Jehovah then Lord then God.The point
is the correct pronunciation is not the issue.It is "knowing the nature" of the thing or person named.My neighbors name is Jose just because he lives
in the USA I don't call him Joe.That is disrespectful and highly assumptive and a clear sign I do not know nor respect him.If I was asking you to
please pour some water on me and you believed the word water meant hydrochloric acid that would be a huge problem.
I don't believe there is a conspiracy in changing the name of God as much as it is a sign of complete ignorance and not knowing the person or thing
named.This is all very easily discovered information.There is barely a person who has heard the name Jesus that doesn't know he was a Jew(technically
from the Tribe of Judah).His name translated to modern English is Yahoshua not Jesus.Jesus is the Latinized transliteration (when they make words
sound similar) to the Greek Iesous which the new testament was written in.For those who believe the King James is the only authenticated translation
the 1st edition 1611 KJ has Iesous not Jesus.
The point is Yahoshua's name [nature] is what is to be known.Yahoshua means Yahweh is salvation.....the deliverer.The fact is the majority of
Christians do not believe in his name at all by their own admition ..not mine.They believe Jesus is going to sentence billions to the eternal
punishment of hell because he can't save them.They have not said a prayer or "believed" in his name.I hope you can see the insane irony in that.
The bottom line is....names are extremely important.They are how we perceive things.if our perception is wrong(as in the hydrochloric acid) it can
prove disastrous.The name of God is not an incantation to be invoked like a magic spell.Nor does knowing the correct pronunciation mean the sayer
knows it.The knowing of a name is perception itself...understanding ...knowing..not just believing.
edit on 6-7-2013 by Rex282 because: (no reason given)