Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by markosity1973
It seems like forever since I last conversed with you. My apologies for missing your post. I have been preoccupied in another thread that is well fun,
to put it nicely
Let me respond to your post;
Obviously the first question is how do we promote marrige and monogamy? I think humans have a built in desire to sleep around, at least science seems
to be telling us that men do, I'm not as sure about women. I don't understand the desires and drives of gays, my opinion is worthless, but
newspapers? Talk shows? NBA public service announcements?
I get where you are coming from in terms of the fear of gay relationships taking over mainstream media. That's not the intention at all. If I think of
my own home country of NZ, there are 2 basic ways that it has been promoted -
1) a locally produced TV show called Shortland St, which has a reputation for pushing the boundaries on all types of social issues, not just gay
rights has always had gay characters and romances so I'm guessing it will show a gay wedding now that NZ has legalised it. This is only one show and
it shows on one channel once a day 5 days a week so it has far less than 1% of actual airtime in the scheme of things.
2) Gay media i.e, magazines, websites and gay venues that are used primarily by the gay community. i.e. unless you have a specific interest in all
things gay, you will not see any of this because you have to make the conscious decision to buy a gay magazine, visit a gay website or attend a gay
pub, at which point you are giving involuntary approval to anything you might see or hear there.
But the second question blossoms forth from the first. Why shouldn't gays, or anyone else, sleep around? Is it primarily to avoid disease? That
hasn't worked too well with straights and, as you point out, many gays are trusting in pills to someday cure and prevent all these problems.
I'm not condemning gay or straight people for sleeping around, it's a part of human nature. However, in the straight community the implied expectation
is that you eventually settle down with one man or one woman depending on your gender. Some people do not follow this model, but the majority do. My
intention is that we have the same principle applied in the gay community without judgement
for those who do not choose to follow it.
Straights have religious commands and societal pressures to avoid adultery and divorce. Granted they're not working too well, but they're there. I
don't suppose gays have any religious pressure to stay monogamous, religious pressure hasn't meant too much so far. Current divorce statistics seem
to indicate that societal pressure isn't as effective as it was.
And yet the Christian community blames the gay community for all of the above an awful lot. What if as a society we were clever enough to turn that
pressure into a desire? i.e. get some clever marketers to do some sexy advertising to make people want
to stay monogamous. Statistics from the
year 2000 in England actually show that monogamy was improving over there and I have seen articles in the paper from NZ stating that since the great
GFC of 2008 people are sticking together in relationships because times are so tough now. It's not outside the realms of possibility that a societal
shift back to monogamy could happen. I am advocating that we start the movement and we include that gay community in it.
So, outside of disease, what's the motivation for marriage and monogamy? Doesn't that have to be there for any kind of education campaign to be
In a word; Love. Let's make it sexy again, let's make everyone feel good about marriage, let's celebrate family, let's make monogamy the new freedom
by showing all it's benefits. We just need to focus on the positive instead of the negative aspects of not being involved. And this time let's include
the gay community in all the positivity, maybe not so heavily in mainstream media but just enough for people to understand that we mean everyone when
we promote these values.
edit on 7-7-2013 by markosity1973 because: (no reason given)