Bolivian president's treatment stirs up fury in Latin America

reply to post by khimbar

What are they going to do?

No one will challenge the USA militarily. They can't.

So they can huff and puff and posture but what else can they really do?

Anyone know?

Both the US and the EU are presenting symptoms of acute monetarism. They are already fragile states and, according to the prognosis by Dr. BRIC, the slightest exposure to fiscal reality will render the condition fatal. That is what they can really really do.

reply to post by christina-66


How beautifully put!

For those of you who don't know about it, this ATSer is refering to the Brics Alliance, of which Bolivia is a part.

BRICS is the acronym for an association of five major emerging national economies: Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.[2] The grouping was originally known as "BRIC" before the inclusion of South Africa in 2010. With the possible exception of Russia,[3] the BRICS members are all developing or newly industrialised countries, but they are distinguished by their large, fast-growing economies[4] and significant influence on regional and global affairs. As of 2013, the five BRICS countries represent almost 3 billion people, with a combined nominal GDP of US$14.8 trillion,[1] and an estimated US$4 trillion in combined foreign reserves.[5] Presently, South Africa holds the chair of the BRICS group. The BRICS have received both praise and criticism from numerous quarters.[6][7][8]

Brics

Morlales Threatens to Close U.S. Embassy

And now the repercussions of this situation actually begin. As a poster suggested earlier, wars have been started with far less. I don't think they'll begin one, nor do they wish to have one, but things are about to change because of what has taken place (though we surely don't know the whole story!)

reply to post by antoinemarionette


Ouch!

"My hand would not shake to close the US embassy, Mr Morales said,, we have dignity, sovereignty. Without the United States, we are better politically and democratically."

The rest of the world woke up to the fact that the US needs it more than the world needs the US quite some time ago. I suspect US leaders have long been aware of it. We are witnessing the desperate death throws of the shortest lived empire in history.

Originally posted by khimbar
What are they going to do?

No one will challenge the USA militarily. They can't.

So they can huff and puff and posture but what else can they really do?

Anyone know?

No ONE can challenge the USA militarily. Agreed. The problem is that when the USA makes a concerted effort to alienate every other country... they force alliances that otherwise might not exist.

No ONE can challenge the USA militarily... but EVERYONE can.

Awww Poor Bolivia

PS

Shhhhhhhhh

Originally posted by CrikeyMagnet

Originally posted by khimbar
What are they going to do?

No one will challenge the USA militarily. They can't.

So they can huff and puff and posture but what else can they really do?

Anyone know?

No ONE can challenge the USA militarily. Agreed. The problem is that when the USA makes a concerted effort to alienate every other country... they force alliances that otherwise might not exist.

No ONE can challenge the USA militarily... but EVERYONE can.

And who might that everyone be?

Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by antoinemarionette

 

Regardless of the reason behind it, no one broke any laws. The aircraft was not covered under the Chicago Convention, because it's a State Aircraft. Besides that, under international law, a Presidential plane is subject to orders to land, and to being searched, whether it belongs to Bolivia, the US, the French, the Russians, it doesn't matter.

While the aircraft might not be subject to the Chicago Convention, all the countries mentioned are signatories and bound by the Vienna Convention of 1961 regarding treatment of foreign diplomats, which includes heads of state.

reply to post by F4guy


Yes, I agree. That post was in response to the pilot posting at the beginning of the thread. There is no way that was acceptable treatment of a head of state.

And now for more great news: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered by Venezuela

reply to post by TritonTaranis


Everyone is an absolute. The definition of everyone is quite clear.

Though honestly, it wouldn't even take the entire non-US population. The strategy for defeating a larger foe havs always been to "divide and conquer". The US has done a great deal of this division by getting involvdd in numerous fronts at the same time... but there is a limit to the number of active engagements even they can sustain. As more open up, the effectiveness of any individual campaign will decrease. Eventually, the only option will be to return home and deal with the inevitable unrest there.

"Never before in history have states conspired to force to the ground a sovereign president's plane to effect a search for a political refugee," Snowden wrote. "This dangerous escalation represents a threat not just to the dignity of Latin America or my own personal security, but to the basic right shared by every living person to live free from persecution."

Ed Snowden Requests Asylum from Russian

What an interesting and profound statement. This man's situation is very moving, I find.