It's not just phones and Internet: Regular Mail is Tracked Too!

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posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 01:47 AM
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Ok, yea, I didn't read the source, but I wonder about the UPS and FedEx though.

Years ago, a close friend of mine (God rest her soul) had established a close and trusting relationship with a neighborhood "friend" ("I get by with a little help from my friends"). Anyhow, a long and fruitful friendship continued after our friend moved to Arizona, via UPS, until our not so friendly UPS driver got wise and surgically removed some of the more important contents of one package, and then taped it back up. They continued their relationship that had lasted for years through UPS with another shipping company.

So why did Joe UPS driver get wise and big brother never did? How is that? Sure I'm not talking about WMDs or IEDs or any of the ingredients thereof, but this went on for many years and only UPS guy figured that one out.




posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 02:07 AM
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I too have received mail that has clearly been CUT open (not accidentally ripped but precisely cut open) and taped back up.
This doesn't surprise me as I saw a documentary about the WhiteHaus scanning all mail. They can tell where you bought your paper and even writing utensil. Everything is scanned and saved for future reference. They get fingerprints from the letters (inside the envelope).

You know your printer even gives you away, right? I can print something on my printer, post it somewhere, and they can match it to my printer.

It goes deeper than most would care to imagine.



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 03:40 AM
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Your government took more of your liberty and did not ask you for permission. Oh how unpredictable the outcome of your aquestion of your unalienable rights has become.



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 03:41 AM
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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
ATS members, how can this be fixed?


People's Veto. In a nation of the people, by the people, for the people, why shouldn't the people be able to say no to the government that works for them? Wouldn't you like to say no to Obamacare or the Patriot Act? I see no reason that we should have to be stuck with bad laws.

"The ultimate arbiter is the people of the Union." -Thomas Jefferson
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posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 03:43 AM
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Having spent 6 years working at the Royal Mail (the UK Post Office) I can 100% confirm that they also take photographs of letters that pass through the system.

The machines that do this are called IMPS (Integrated Mail Processors) and are built by Seimens.

The IMPS contain a high speed camera that takes an image of the letter as it whizzes past on a conveyor belt, this letter is then also marked with a very faint barcode (in yellow if i remember) that allows further tracking of that letter.

If the automatic address reader, which is also part of the IMP can not make out the address then the image of the letter is sent up to a department that is referred to as coding. The image appears on one of the coders computer screens and they then manually enter the correct address/postcode for that letter. The coders decision/input is then automatically associated with that letter as it continues through the system via the tracking barcode.

Also, with regards to tracking mail suspected of being involved with criminal activity. In the Royal Mail, this is handled by their internal security called the IB (Investigation Branch) who work very closely with the Police.

I do not know how long any of these images are stored for however i do know that when i was working there the IMPS were networked as they often would upload massive amounts of data to Siemens.

***Edit to add***

I was just looking on you tube for a video of one of the IMPS when i came across the video below that shows the processing machines being used in the U.S. Im not sure if its an actual IMP but its very similar.

They also show you the images that it is taking too.

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posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 03:49 AM
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Seems like the corporatist run just about every fn thing in every nation now days. Is there a nation on the planet that respects individuals? I kind of doubt at this point. Seems like corporatism took over the entire world.



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by Superhans
Just get people to send mass bomb threats to themselves. Its perfectly legal for me to threaten myself.


Why would you want them to draw their attention in your direction? What are you achieving in doing it?



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by mahatche

Originally posted by Superhans
Just get people to send mass bomb threats to themselves. Its perfectly legal for me to threaten myself.


Why would you want them to draw their attention in your direction? What are you achieving in doing it?


If all they do is spend time following up bogus leads they will cease to do it



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 06:26 AM
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I've always believed that this government (US) will do ANYTHING to keep it in place including theft, spying, and murder. There's nothing we can do about it unless the current system is brought down through some natural disaster (war, asteroid, loss of food supply, etc.). We can talk or "Blog" about it every day. Nothing will change.
Our voting system is also corrupt so there's no help there. The voting system as we know it looses all power after about the city level. Any higher and the system is well controlled by a hidden, well portected group of power mongers. Hate to sound so pessimistic but I'm afraid it's true. So, stay at your job (if you have one), keep watching TV, and don't make too many waves or you may find yourself wrapped around a tree as result of "unfortunate accident"...



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 08:09 AM
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Nothing is stored, the only cameras used are infrared to count and barcode scanners. Address information is stored in the barcode. This is only scanned so that the machine drops the letter or package into the correct bin for transport to other postal facilities for distribution/delivery. The USPS does not have the technical capability to store that amount of images, or send that data to any computer system. Hell, zip codes are still entered manually by workers. Most of the equipment in postal facilities is seriously outdated.

I work for them.



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by cosmicexplorer
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Passenger pigeons!

I started a thread earlier about americans being able to seek asylum in other countries due to our human rights violation (with little interest from ats
...there is no way im staying here in the US...its not just totally due to all this..i resigned from my job but..after my entire adult life defending this country I have no reason to offer my services any more...at least to the US Gov. Im getting out while I can...only way any of this will change is with a clean wipe...unfortunately. I loved my service here to my people, but you are on your own. Good luck!


Come to Australia, on second thoughts don't. Our government is friends with your government

Hmmm...Easter Island maybe?



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 09:55 AM
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I have to say this is not news to people.

If it's news then American citizens haven't been doing their due diligence.

I've personally known about this for 34 years.



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 11:08 AM
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I was told 40+ years ago that the PTB even had technology that could READ snail mail WITHOUT opening it.

Not being a physicist nor anything close to knowledgeable about such matters . . . I hypothesized that it might well be possible to bombard each piece of mail with some sort of radiation which would cause the ink to emit some sort of particle that could then be unfolded and mapped into clearly readable letters.

I don't know what the mechanism was but my source was fairly insistent that it was technically possible and was routinely done--particularly to and from . . . "interesting" parties . . . from the PTB perspective . . . and particularly foreign mail.
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posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
U.S. Postal Service Logging All Mail for Law Enforcement


ATS members, how can this be fixed?


Great question.

The Navy blokes telling me about such goings on more than . . . let's see . . . 40+ years ago--right--certainly did not think there was a way to stop it.

Sadly, I don't know of any. I certainly do not think it WILL be fixed before literal, Biblical Armageddon. THAT will fix a LOT of things.

The folks who have set such systems up decades ago have worked for more than 200 years to establish their global tyranny--literally--to literally worship a very literal satan as the world leader. They are not joking. Neither is the evil bloke in charge.

THEY have consolidated their

1. Economic resources
2. power-mongering positions and status
3. manipulative skills, technologies and resources
4. !CONTROL! schemes, mechanisms and technologies
5. Death Grip on power
6. !CONTROL! of ALL major institutions in all major countries and most other countries
7. A VAST, THOROUGH AND RUTHLESS INFO/INTEL GATHERING network unparalleled down to virtually the neighborhood level in all Western and many other countries. And that was before phone technologies.
8. etc. etc. etc.

They have been doing so many say for AT LEAST 400 years.

The documentation here in their own words speaks to the last 200 years:

twoday.net...


twga...

Some researchers claim the same families have diligently consolidated their powers and resources ever since the fall of Rome.

Regardless, they ARE THE POWERS THAT BE in a temporal sense.

Throw in the EXO-VATICANA thousands of pages (DVD) of documented involvement of the purported ET/fallen angel critters leading/supporting such global human tyrants . . . and it leaves little left available to the serfs and slaves to even begin to conceive of a way to much more than slightly hinder them here or there the way a gnat's fart might hinder an elephant.

We were warned about this tyranny 2,000 years ago. It is marching forward, black boots and all, inexorably just as outlined in The Manual.

This will be laughing stock to many . . . however,

The MOST POWERFUL FORCE as was true in WWII . . . imho . . . is Christians--AUTHENTIC Christians--coming together across denominational lines to pray for their loved ones and their locales. I believe THAT kind of earnest prayer and fasting will result in SOME levels of supernatural protection for some locales and some individuals for periods of time. Many authentic Christians will be martyred. Many will be supernaturally protected.

We know that TPTB want to exterminate all but 200-500 million global citizens and enslave the survivors ruthlessly.

We know that all who don't take the chip implant Mark of the Beast are to be exterminated.

Soooooooooooo in terms of your question . . . I don't think it can be stopped or even much hindered or bothered.

I think the only work-around is to hand something written without fingerprints . . . sealed . . . and ask a trustworthy person to hand it to a most likely useful person who is also absolutely trustworthy etc. to eventually hand face to face with the targeted recipient. Research indicates it would take no more than 6 couriers to reach their target. But that's a LOT of trusting a relatively lot of strangers. LOL.

I think it's easier to just ask Holy Spirit to communicate what's needed to the individuals.

You asked. That's my answer.

Great question.

Great issue.

Not so great, if any, solutions.

Basically, imho, the world is . . . .-ed.

I believe this era and the USA are OBJECT LESSONS

DEMONSTRATING that WITHOUT GOD

evil consumes all and everything.



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 11:25 AM
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Yet when you plug in that number to see where your package is it says

This number does not exist even after the vendor sent it 3 business days ago.

Awesome technologies.

When i grow up I want to be like them(techs, brilliant engineers, and scientists) and the ones they fool (98% of the populace)



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 12:24 PM
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They do more than just photo the covers. There are special liquids (liquid freon) they can use to make the envelope transparent.

www.textfiles.com...
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posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 02:44 PM
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And there was me being told by a friend (-who has great intuition-) that every electronic device (ie- smartphone, pc, tablet or TV..) could be used as an 'eye' or 'ear' for spies and security -depending on it's contained hardware..

Seems far out, but I'm sure they shall soon be controlling our body functions next from down your electricity cable-



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 04:06 PM
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I was thinking Norfolk Island!



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 04:08 PM
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You know I had an arguement with my parents about this...im finding health care was better in Germany, cost of living was cheaper in South America...my internet worked better in other places....the only thing we offer anymore is the highest paying jobs.

On topic....ya tracking mail sucks lol.



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by superluminal11
Yet when you plug in that number to see where your package is it says

This number does not exist even after the vendor sent it 3 business days ago.

Awesome technologies.

When i grow up I want to be like them(techs, brilliant engineers, and scientists) and the ones they fool (98% of the populace)


Yeah, if the USPS has this tracking technology they need to implement it commercially if they want to stave off financial collapse. I've watched mail leave the vendor, only head to an out of the way sort facility in Los Angeles (I'm on the east coast). Once in L.A. it then left and re-entered that same facility for seven days. Thankfully it eventually arrived. Many parcels have just evaporated into the zeitgeist.





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