There are so few new claims about "chemtrails" it's nice to see someone thinking outside the box. And something to think about. Here's a good
I have been in discussion with someone on FB about "chemtrails." Many things he has been told by me and others actually have made an impact. Here is
his new video, using Planefinder.net.
Applying a bit of critical thinking, it has to be a glitch. No plane would fly that path, especially a plane carrying passengers. I'm also pretty
sure such a flight would need to be refueled someplace.....or rather over some place, because apparently the plane is still just going back and
forth, creating a grid of "chemtrails". The video's poster thinks it's proof.
I was hoping someone has had experience with previous glitches like this. Applying "the simplest answer is usually the best", and knowing that no
program is perfect, a glitch is lot easier to believe than whoever is doing the planning of "chemtrail" routes would allow it to be openly shared
online, that airlines with passengers are being used for hours.......See?
To the believers who watch this, what about this is compelling for you to believe it is "chemtrails", and not a glitch? Or what about this would you
question before believing?
Update: I have now been blocked from making further comments on YouTube.
There is no way that one 737 could have flown that flight pattern in one flight. The range of a 737-700 is 3440 nautical miles. According to him the
plane left LA, and flew that pattern, and ended up in Atlanta. LA to Atlanta is 1944 miles if they went non-stop. How did this plane stay in the
air as long as he claims it did? They can't refuel in flight, and if they did all that in one flight, it would have fallen out of the sky long before
Not all tracking sites work well. Flightradar24 is one of the better ones, and there are plenty of times I can't get a flight to track. Flightaware
is another good one, but some of the data on the flights, when you break it down during the flight, really makes you scratch your head trying to
figure it out.
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I can't see this being anything other than a glitch - but I have no idea what the problem is.
I wonder how many reports of "grids" here were from the area covered on the day in question??
PS - what date was this? It might pay to check the playback, and check other sites such as FlightAware and FlightRadar24? I couldn't figure out how
to check eth history of a flight number on Planefinder.
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I looked it up on flightaware and suggested he check that as well. But I am blocked by him, everywhere.
As far as thinking outside the box, false alarm. He now also has a weather radar "spiral", which is just plain ignorance, a`la Dutchsinse and his
"HAARP" rings. It's always better to make YT videos fi than try to figure out how things really work. I keep forgetting that.
Just when you think someone is actually thinking, they prove you wrong. He has a picture from another FB page of a "chemcloud"....I sent him the
Atmospheric Optics website about iridescent clouds and the link to "On the cause of iridescence in clouds" from 1877. He retracted, declared them
to be iridescent clouds, whined about the exhaust fumes, and removed my posts. At least I tried to educate him.
I chanced upon a glitch on FR24 a couple of days ago where a 737 was shown leaving Manchester airport, for about 50 miles and then teleporting back
instantly and starting again, repeating this pattern several times. Those damn 737's. I wonder what CTers would have made of that one
If someone isn't capable of discerning when a plane is shown to be doing something that is physically impossible, it might explain why they are so
ready to accept crackpot theories as gospel truth.
As a bonus, how about this for a military escort
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Not on the plane that did that it's not. The 737 has no I'm flight refueling capability, and a civilian version would never use it. Besides which it
would have shown up on the screen as a very obvious track if it had.
I'm always amazed at how people manage to find the super secret programs this way. This program is supposed to be so classified that no one knows
about it, yet you can watch it happen on a flight taking website? No way. All they have to do is turn the ADS-b transponder off and use the regular
mode and that website wouldn't ever see them. What, did they forget?
It would be investigated. It wouldn't disappear from the radar, just the info from the plane itself would stop.
So, no. It could be done, but it never would be done. If it continued, they would most likely receive a military escort until the matter was
Almost forgot a second point: The plane was shown to be in the air at 1,700 feet. That's low enough it would be noticed and reported if it was seen
outside the usual take-off/landing paths of an airport.
I think what really "bothers" me about this sort of video is the poster will deflect all possibilities but the one he believes. There are thousands
of planes flying on the program at any one time. Of course there will be problems with getting some messed-up info real time.
If shown this same or similar program to someone who calls a plane "chemtrailing" and unmarked that it is a known flight, on a known route, and is
nothing unusual, (which I have suggested to people many times before), the program is usually declared flawed and the information faked. But if the
info can be faked sometimes, why wouldn't the clandestine operation be just a bit more careful and fake every plane it sends out?
It becomes a circle of illogical assumptions of their own making. Duplicity is seldom a good trait.
The plane apparently did cris cross grids over most of the us at one time. Back an forth 40 times or more?
I offer the only explanation that fits. Common sense says it's impossible.
But since this guy has the flight information, I suggest an inquiry into what type of fuel this plane uses. The efficiency and speed of the craft are
off the friggin charts. How long would it take to make this grid pattern? How long was the plane in the air?
I hope this guy takes his "evidence" to somewhere that makes him understand critical thinking.
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