Democrats are trying to suppress the confusion and hide the cost of ObamaCare

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posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 08:23 PM
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With the 2014 elections creeping up, it appears that Democrats are scurrying for position.

Naturally, they will attempt to convince you that the ObamaCare plan is best for you
(but not them, they have a different system I think).

"Open Enrollment" starts October 1st.

Get ready for heartbreak.

If you are poor enough, you can probably get away 'cheap' (more power to ya).

If you can't afford to be poor however, you will pay through the nose.

If you have insurance at work already, don't expect much of a raise anymore ever.

Next year's elections are in jeopardy for anyone who supports the PPACA boondogle.


I don’t know if Members of Congress will be hearing about it in town hall gatherings and other meetings back home over the Fourth of July recess, but the rolling thunder of the approaching ObamaCare train can be heard in the distance. Smart Democrats are beginning to get frantic about the need to suppress the confusion and hide the cost of ObamaCare between now and the 2014 midterm elections. We are just three months away from the October 1st enrollment start date and so far, nothing about the ObamaCare implementation process should be politically encouraging for Democrats. In fact, the more people learn about ObamaCare, the more frightened they become.


Many people are not aware of the pitfalls, but they will wake up soon enough.

Maybe Americans should take a few pointers from Egyptians.

The Insiders: Democrats are trying to suppress the confusion and hide the cost of ObamaCare

The Pelosi-Reid LOCOmotive is firing up......Tickets Please
 


It's starting.........Ding Ding Chug Chug !!
The "insurance" companies are already blaming ObamaCare


Aetna, the third largest provider of medical insurance in the country, has mailed a letter to at least some customers this week warning that the "Affordable Care Act (ACA) is changing health insurance" and that "many people will pay more for their health insurance coverage in 2014 than they do today." The letter is addressed to those whose plans are "non-grandfathered" under the ACA, as explained in a footnote, but says that customers "may have options that could cost less than the higher-priced 2014 plans": Aetna Letter Warns Customers: 'Many People Will Pay More For Health Insurance' Under Obamacare



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posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 08:38 PM
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Another Excellent Thread.

The thing is, I will bet the Republican Congressmen and Women already have all the cost data and the whole boondoggle of information. So, I don't think the Dems are going to be able to hide it away.

Just today the Administration put off the small business component until 2015, in an obvious attempt to try and save their collective buts in 2014. Somehow, I don't think it will matter. This thing has previous supporters bailing and yelling of a coming train wreck.

And then we have the(can't recall the number) groups that are privately funded to buy commercials and blast the disaster all over the media in 2014. I don't think putting off the SMB component is going to save them.

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posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 08:56 PM
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If Obama care, the "affordable care act" was everything they said it would be, they would absolutely want this to be completely in effect well before the mid-term elections. That would be the selling point to continue "progress". Since it seems they want to hide it, it looks bad. Hopefully the sheep wont bite.



posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by caterpillage
If Obama care, the "affordable care act" was everything they said it would be, they would absolutely want this to be completely in effect well before the mid-term elections. That would be the selling point to continue "progress". Since it seems they want to hide it, it looks bad. Hopefully the sheep wont bite.


^ I second this.

If this law makes healthcare much more affordable, then why delay it? Wouldn't they want the law in effect before the elections so people can actually see how good it supposedly is?



posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 09:42 PM
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Oh, whats this? Midterms on shaky ground for Dems...

Obamacare employer mandate delayed until 2015 to give Democrats breathing room
until after 2014 midterm elections, says Treasury source


Obamacare employer mandate delayed until 2015 to give Democrats breathing room until after 2014 midterm elections, says Treasury source




The revised timetable, the source added, will also push back the final implementation of Obamacare's penalties past the 2014 midterm elections, providing Republicans fewer chances to highlight the law's potentially harmful effects on businesses' bottom lines.



posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 09:50 PM
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I find repugnant and highly corrupted the way that our own government crap on the peoples needs in order to play politics.

While we should not be surprised on anything that comes out of the crap in the government at least they should come clean and tell the truth, but as usual our corrupted elite still believe that most of Americans are as dumb and stupid as they are.

Take a good look at what is ruling this nation this days, they are a shame to our nations founding fathers, their spirits should come out of the grave and liberate us from the political trash that has infected Washington.


Obamacare was a scam from the beginning concocted by the same corrupted insurance businesses that it was suppose to rescue us from.



posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 09:56 PM
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When was the care act passed agian?

2010?

2015?

Yay!

I love haveing to wait 5 years for the super duper wonderful affordable healthcare!

Pay close attention to another issue about 'new people' which is why they are doing it in the first place

Democrats know they are in trouble if they don't do something now.

Those people are 10 steps ahead of us commoners;
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posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 10:02 PM
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Are you talking about the millions of illegals to become citizens to cash out on the free obamacare at the expenses of tax payers because they will be qualifying for the welfare American dream, right?





posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 10:22 PM
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122,000 new medical diagnostic codes, doctors will have to use 2 codes in order to inform
the government about injuries from a turtle?



Obamacare regulations contain two separate doctor diagnosis codes for injuries sustained from turtles. Were you bitten, or did you collide with this slow creature? Uncle Sam wants to know

www.dailymail.co.uk... es-sustained-burning-water-skis.html#ixzz2XwtTbO2A





posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by neo96
 


Are you talking about the millions of illegals to become citizens to cash out on the free obamacare at the expenses of tax payers because they will be qualifying for the welfare American dream, right?




Yep as I said 10 steps ahead while the people go king me with that 'affordable healthcare'.



posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 10:58 PM
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What do you expect them to do? This thing is a massive train wreck and now they are positioning for 2014 in a desperate attempt to get reelected.



posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 11:03 PM
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I hope this thing ends up going so wrong and is such a bad train wreck that in years to come any talk of comprehensive health care makes folks physically ill. Oh and the progressives and dems never recover.



posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 11:09 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's;

Big business trying to suppress and confuse
to hide the overarching benefits of Obama Care.



posted on Jul, 2 2013 @ 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by buni11687

Originally posted by caterpillage
If Obama care, the "affordable care act" was everything they said it would be, they would absolutely want this to be completely in effect well before the mid-term elections. That would be the selling point to continue "progress". Since it seems they want to hide it, it looks bad. Hopefully the sheep wont bite.


^ I second this.

If this law makes healthcare much more affordable, then why delay it? Wouldn't they want the law in effect before the elections so people can actually see how good it supposedly is?



Here is whats going to happen to me.....work less and get paid more or go to work everyday as a 1099.



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 05:29 AM
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And the 'Individual Mandate' is still on for January 2014 !!

That means the employees of companies that would have to pay for insurance will have to pay on their own.

It's like that now as it has been.

But the costs will go through the roof.

People with even minimal jobs won't 'qualify' for much 'assistance'.

The reasons given for the business delay are lame.

The whole deal was planned that way I think.

They knew full well that this would affect the 2014 elections.

I bet they change more and more after 2014 too.

Don't forget about the 2016 elections



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 06:04 AM
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I would almost be wiling to bet the only thing that stands is the individual mandate??
And, I bet that was the plan all along!!!
I know the life insurance companies took a big hit when the housing bubble burst and caused the financial train wreck that we have been trying to cope since bush left office. I wonder if the health insurance companies were also heavily invested in those mortgage backed securities also?? That would explain the need for the government to do something to help the poor insurance companies!!!
So, well, they are forcing americans into the system, that is one thing both the republicans and the dems could agree on, but we americans by and large would be very, very divided on. So, they made this big "oh we're here to help you!!!" scam up. Affordable care for all!! Ya right, health insurance in no way guarantees affordable healthcare. In face in some cases, it could interfere with a person getting healthcare, after all you have this insane deductable you have to pay before you reap much use out of your insurance, and if you don't have the money to pay, well, you don't go to the doctor unless you are half dead, and the insurance is next to useless!!!
We are being forced to buy a product that many of us really cannot afford, and all the promises that they would help us obtain it will fall by the wayside, taking away the choice between having a roof over a head or food on the table instead of that health insurance policy! Who cares if you can't feed your family, or if you barely have enough money to pay the rediculous amount of money they want for rent....you'll have health insurance, and one thing is for sure, if you don't have a roof over your head or food to eat, more than likely you will need the healthcare!!!

Those who bemoan and groan about socialism have it all wrong!!! This IS NOT socialism. This is Gov't and Corporate powers tied together, working hand in hand, oblivious to the welfare of the common people! It is Facism!!!


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posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 06:42 AM
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Terrible, giving health care to poor people. What next food to the hungry?

Cut your military budget and you can have the best health care in the world with little additional cost to the tax payer. Every one of Americas public services suffer to maintain an army who purpose was to fight soviets. The government gets what it pays for and the military, schools and public services reflect that.
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posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 07:32 AM
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Poor people already had healthcare. It'll illegal to refuse healthcare to people because they are poor. This was about redistribution of wealth and Marxism.



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Poor people already had healthcare. It'll illegal to refuse healthcare to people because they are poor. This was about redistribution of wealth and Marxism.


In emergency only situations tho.

or is this false?


But Scop is among the millions of poor Americans adults who don't qualify for Medicaid health benefits. While the federal-state health care program for the poor covers more than 60 million Americans, it doesn't really function as a safety net for adults without children.

Scop, 38, faced a debilitating illness that derailed her life and career for seven years. Later, health problems buried her in tens of thousands of dollars in debt. She is without a steady income, hasn't held a full-time job since 2009, and has been living in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., homeless shelters for 15 months. Scop still can't get on Medicaid, though.


www.huffingtonpost.com...



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 07:50 AM
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Medicare would be Federal. The article says nothing about why the person wasn't on State coverage.

Besides that, since when has it been a guarantee for people to have health insurance? A century ago no person was afforded such a luxury. That is Marxism. I'm not for any program that forces one person to pay for the welfare of another person. People should be free to distribute the fruits of their labor to anyone they themselves choose without a government order.





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