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Originally posted by Ahabstar
Chief Justice Roberts many have called it a tax
Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by Daedalus
The I.R.S.S. will NAIL you to a cross.
The fines will go up and up.
Maybe they will raise the fines too while they're at it
I bet they can and might just do that
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by Cuervo
I know you were intentionally over sensationalizing, but what if those predictions are true? We are already seeing how much more this act will cost us all individually.
Originally posted by Carreau
So just to recap. No employer mandate till 2015 (your boss doesn't have to provide you health insurance), BUT individual mandate starts Jan1 2014.
So if you are a cancer survivor with high blood pressure (because of reading news about your crap government) you have to go find your own insurance, say $500 per month with a $5000 deductible if your lucky enough to find as company who will insure you to begin with and because of your health history or pay a tax (fine) to the IRS or go to jail.
Now what could possibly go wrong with this bright idea?
Please Please will one of the obama sycophants respond to this thread and tell me how I am wrong and how everything is going to be soooo much better.
Originally posted by Cuervo
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
How cruel! He sees all these paranoia sites spout off disinformation about it and get all fearful and then he's like "Hmmm... I wonder if I wait another year if they'll actually READ it."
I was really looking forward to it just so I can stop hearing the "predictions" all the Glen Becks and O'Reillys have about how the government is going to off our grandmothers and provide abortions for kittens or whatnot.
Damn it.
Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
Originally posted by whyamIhere
This is the worst law in a Country with a history of some bad laws...
Obamacare will be removed root and branch.
i have to agree with that statement. i think what they're doing is no different than what they are doing with the budget, kicking the old can down the road because they know full and well they cannot run anything correctly, especially not a train wreck such as the affordable care act.
Originally posted by Ahabstar
I think we can effectively call this Obama(doesn't)Care now.
But even the individual mandate has problems as most states are not ready for the exchanges that was supposed to be comparison shopping warehouses for those that do not have a compatible employer backed plan. For example, my employer only offers a supplemental insurance policy that doesn't even cover x-rays, which is not ACA compliant for an insurance policy. At this time, only California is close to being ready for the exchange.
The most amazing thing about the ACA is how it differs from when car insurance was forced on the states. With the car insurance deal, states were told to implement mandatory car insurance or face defunding of federal spending in their state. But much like the car insurance, no provision was made to regulate the rates that insurance companies can charge.
Chief Justice Roberts many have called it a tax, but I foresee a multi-trillion dollar civil suit in the making for various violations of Constitutional rights and provisions once the IRS starts up the printing press on this one. Then we will see whether Obama(doesn't)Care or not.
Originally posted by jimmyx
Originally posted by Carreau
So just to recap. No employer mandate till 2015 (your boss doesn't have to provide you health insurance), BUT individual mandate starts Jan1 2014.
So if you are a cancer survivor with high blood pressure (because of reading news about your crap government) you have to go find your own insurance, say $500 per month with a $5000 deductible if your lucky enough to find as company who will insure you to begin with and because of your health history or pay a tax (fine) to the IRS or go to jail.
Now what could possibly go wrong with this bright idea?
Please Please will one of the obama sycophants respond to this thread and tell me how I am wrong and how everything is going to be soooo much better.
really?...you need someone to tell you what is wrong with your statement?...I read why this is being delayed, and who it affects, and I understand the reason. i'm not your teacher or your parent, you have to take responsibility for your own research, as do most adults.
I read why this is being delayed, and who it affects, and I understand the reason.
Yeah, sure.....
they can't force me to buy a product i can't afford, with money i don't have...
what are they gonna do, throw me in prison for not buying insurance?
i can understand insurance for operating a car, but insurance for drawing breath? Ludicrous.
Originally posted by sealing
It's so ridiculous.
For conservatives this is like Armageddon Comet Elenin
The Mayan 2012 doom and Nibiru all rolled in one.
And what's gonna happen?
Not a GD thing. Except..
People who didn't have health care now will.
It's amazing what big business will scare up to protect
their already sky high profit margins.