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Originally posted by Deetermined
Why? Is that war still going on today? NO!
The war between the Sunnis and Shiites is still going on today.
I asked you to quote that in another thread and you never did.
The Islamic Quran in ''Night Journeys 17:100 - 104'' Allah gives the land for the Jews to inhabit forever
And just like the "Europeans" not needing a mandate by God to "kill the Indians", the Zionists did not need a mandate from God to kill the Palestinians.
Like the Europeans who did not require a mandate to kill off the Indians and take their lands , the Israelis need no help to give them the ability to take and hold land God will provide that
That is delusional happy-talk propaganda. The historical reality is that it was the British, who took Palestine from the Ottomans at the end of WW I who facilitated the take-over by arming and training the Jews, and by issuing the Balfour Declaration.
Christians have not been their facilitator , God has put them there against all odds
Historically, it was one of the wealthiest places on earth. The problem was that as usual, the wealth was syphoned off to a few rich people. Where do you think Herod the Great came up with the money to build the most fabulous temple on earth at that time? Jericho was the center of the Balsam trade which was worth its weight in Gold, and Galilee proved a large portion of the dried fish that supplied the Roman Empire. Right now the Israelis are drilling for oil in Palestinian waters and pumping oil on land that they stole in the 67 war.
That place called Israel is a very poor patch of land for any nation to fight over
Yes, it is moot to give me explanations that are pulled out of thin air. I am asking only one question, Why do Christians believe in a God that has "chosen" the Jews? You keep on refusing to answer that one, and instead insist on talking about Sunnis and other unrelated stuff.
Originally posted by Deetermined
You asking the same questions over and over again is really getting old. What's amusing to me is that people try to explain the Bible to you and answer your questions, but you don't even understand the explanations being given, so I guess the whole point is moot.
Originally posted by Deetermined
I answered that question on the very first page of your thread. I gave you a link because it expresses my views and it provides Bible verses to back up my view in a concise manner. Since then, I have answered your individual questions past the original explanation, but for some reason you just want me keep repeating myself, like you keep doing. Why do you want me to keep repeating myself? Why do you keep repeating yourself?
Some people can never see the truth . You don't want truth , you want your version of truth . Well , the future which scares me as well is not up to peoples consensus vote . We can not decide what our future will be . We can make decisions and deal with the reality of the matter . I have seen people who stick their heads in the dirt or (else where ) and say it isn't so . That is not going to workout well .
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Originally posted by SimonPeter
Christians have not been their facilitator , God has put them there against all odds ... That upcoming war called Gog and Magog war will draw in the whole world and affect every thing in it .
So why DO Christians believe in this 'God'? I hate to break it to you, by studying the Bible there is no knowledge you can derive about God or the future. Your post certainly did not contain any 'knowledge'.
Abraham, one of the greatest men to have walked earth was a Hebrew, not Jewish
The Gnostics were nothing more than the New Agers of today. Always trying to mix pagan worship
based on mystical experiences brought on by fallen angels and demon contact.
That idea cannot be "replaced" by another God. This God concept is a capital "G" concept; to differentiate it from the little "g" gods of Greece and elsewhere, all you need do is analyze their capacities: wisdom, love, etc. These are mere concepts that have nothing to do with origin, meaning, moral purpose.
It is therefore unbelievably wrong to say the Christians needed a "new God" when they already had a perfectly universal one from the Jewish religion.
Perhaps Christianity was a logical expansion of the Jewish God idea? Or maybe Judaism was misunderstood by outsiders
We don't know enough about the "roman Mithraic tradition" to determine anything like that.
The last supper and the messiah rising from the dead are taken from the roman Mithraic tradition.
"One could", but they would ultimately fail, since the book of Acts is not a reliable source to verify either if Paul was a "great persecutor" of if he "suffered an event" on the road to Damascus. Paul in his own writings never mentions such an event, and admits to no greater "persecutions" that making arguments during discussions involving Christians.
One could argue that the great persecutor Saul suffered such an event on the way to Damascus, and then went around preaching a different message from James (James who was contemporaneously with Jesus)
reply to post by Deetermined
They only adapted the teachings of Christ that they wanted to while they continued their pagan practices. The two don't mix
Originally posted by ChristianJihad
reply to post by honested3
We are all God's people now
Except for the billions that are not pf course, myself included, I know I know off to hell with me then.
You seem to know nothing about Israeli history other than what is on the propaganda handouts at your cult meetings.
Israel had no help from Britain
reply to post by Deetermined
how do you know you're not turning to demons when Satan was given the ability to disguise himself as an angel of light when he chooses to?
This world belongs to Satan even though we are capable of seeing God's work in it's beauty and design