Originally posted by danielsil18
There is no need to debate in here. This is just a basic question for everyone who follows a religion and also for those who followed one and
- For those who follow a religion I want to ask you this:
1) At Around what age did you decide to follow the religion?
- For those who were following a religion and stopped I want to ask you this:
1) At around what age did you stop following a religion?
2) what did you convert to and why?
I hope many of you participate, thank you.
edit on 2-7-2013 by danielsil18 because: (no reason given)
Such a complex question put so simply.
I do not follow any specific religion, but I do take hints from more religions than other when it comes to answering spiritual questions.
1.) I stopped following Christianity when I was about 10 or 11. It wasn't a clean break though, it was something that I was raised being, and I never
showed interest in. It just slowly faded away into nothingness for me, even though my parents still pretended to believe out of some fear, or
popularity, who knows.
2.) I converted to what I thought to be atheism and then agnosticism for years. For some time, I went even further and became anti-religious,
anti-christian mostly. But recently, I have come around and realized that some people are just dependent, and they need outside guidance. They don't
all contain an internal moral compass like I do, they feel more lost and scared for their salvation. I have never been scared that I might go to hell
because I know that I am inherently good and I do good things for other people. That's all that matters to me, like Marcus Aurelius said, "If the
Gods are just, then they will not judge you based on what you believed but by your actions. If the Gods are not just, then you should not want to
Then I realized that technically, there is absolutely no difference in being agnostic or being an atheist. Both do not believe in God, so if God were
real and he required your conscious allegiance, then both agnostics and atheists would go to "Hell".
Then I realized that everyone is technically agnostic! I realized that the word agnostic has nothing to do with ones beliefs, only what one can
observe and deduce scientifically. I think everyone can agree that no one claims to be able to scientifically prove or disprove beyond a reasonable
doubt that God exists. No one. However, this does not prevent people from "believing" in God's existence. This notion of belief without scientific
proof is called faith. Agnosticism, by definition, is completely irrelevant to your faith, because proof is not a prerequisite for faith. Therefore,
every single person is technically agnostic, but that's ok. It's ok because you can be an agnostic Christian, and in fact all Christians are
agnostic because they believe in Jesus without having to have proof, yet they will still say that they know they cannot prove to you Jesus or God is
real or unreal, and that is the agnostic part.
Then i realized that by definition, I'm not even really an atheist! If anyone were to take a few minutes to simply study the etymology of the word
atheism, they would deduce that it literally means belief in a deity. Now, this requires that you look up the definition of the word "deity". Do you
really not believe in a deity if you're considered atheist? A general definition that we can all agree on for deity is in wikipedia, it says; "a
being with powers greater than those of ordinary humans, but who interacts with humans, positively or negatively, in ways that carry humans to new
levels of consciousness beyond the grounded preoccupations of ordinary life." Now read that again, and think about it very carefully. This could mean
Aliens, advanced Humans, energy, a star, a planet, some greater form of consciousness. Any of those could be your deity depending on what you
"believed" in. So really, I bet no one is a technical atheist. Because the definition is fickle at best, fleeting and changing depending on whatever
you believe to be a deity, which, according to wikipeida, has been completely stripped of any spiritual relevance. Doesn't make much sense anymore