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World's Most Evil and Lawless Institution? The Executive Branch of the U.S. Government

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posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 07:36 PM
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Yes and all ignorant people think all the signs and symbolism is coincedence and meaningless. And clubs like Bohemian grove, the skull club at yale where rumours go they worship war, the bilderberg meetings are all just for having nice picknicks together. Truth is so much stranger than fiction, people just choose to not believe it.



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 07:48 PM
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How does writing all this long crap help anything ever.

Erm.......it makes people pay attention and think??? Yeah, that's it. It makes people who are online pay attention and THINK.

What a waste of time.
Your opinion. What do you spend your time doing, LastStar (aside from trolling my threads and being belligerently oppositional, that is?).


Its nice to have a lifestyle where you can have your money and sit and write all day on this.

My MONEY? My LIFESTYLE? What a totally ignorant thing to say!

Dude, I have been trying to find even menial PART TIME WORK for 5 years now!! I have a Master's degree...... I left my job in 2008..due to FAMILY OBLIGATIONS.

My dad was dying (if that's okay with you), and I needed ONE WEEK off to give my mom a break.......The employer said, "no." So, I had to quit. Less than two years later, Daddy died. ....my children are now out of the nest, and my husband HAPPENS to earn enough to support us both.

We keep our expenses to a MINIMUM....we are NOT extravagant. Our vehicles are paid for. ..... we only use credit in EMERGENCIES......we are trying to save money.
What do you want from me? I worked from the time I was 12 until I was 50!! I would be working STILL if anyone would give me even an INTERVIEW. Not good enough?????

My husband is 12 years younger than I am, and he is a software engineer. He went without work for 9 months in 2009 due to "downsizing and off-shoring", and then AGAIN in 2011, for a YEAR, before he got hired by another firm to do what he's great at.

Yeah, I haven't bought any new clothes in YEARS. I wear my kids' discards. BOTH of our bought-used 20th century vehicles are paid for. We live in a VERY modest neighborhood, and we MAKE DO with what we've got (which ain't much). So keep your judgmental ignorant 'assumptions' to yourself, pal. This is the 3RD TIME you've slammed me in a thread, and you just do the drive-by type of 'troll-fire' that is so common with people WHO DON'T READ OPs OR THREADS.

Your opinions are just that. Your opinions. They don't apply to everyone.
Boo.



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 07:54 PM
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I would counter your claim that the executive branch is the most corrupt; it all began with operation paperclip and the creation of the CIA. The militaries lust for power after WW2 funneled into the unaccountable secret service an old boys club that came out of the OSS. The root of the cancer is the intelligence branch of the government.

Yes, you are correct.

And when Bush/Cheney and Rumsfeld and Petraus were in charge, they merged the two ---- into JSOC, black ops, etc and fixed it so that Congress had NO IDEA what was going on!!

Please, read Scahill's Dirty Wars. You will be shocked, sickened, and have been disabused of your unawareness (which I don't mean in a bad way -----)



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posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by wildtimes
...Please, read Scahill's Dirty Wars. You will be shocked, sickened, and have been disabused of your unawareness (which I don't mean in a bad way -----)
...

Was this "book" turned into a movie/documentary?
If so - I think it's available, now... Might give it a watch.



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by juspassinthru

Originally posted by wildtimes
I'm equally disgusted by the banks, make no mistake.

I'm on the fence about GMO and pharma - aware of the issues, but not focused on them at the moment.





You absolutely need to get educated on GMO and pharma. The experimental results, massive incompetence and sheer volume of money involved will make your head spin.

These industries are every bit as deadly to the human race as Washington/DoD is.


I think the problem here is that there's so many major issues going on right now, in just the US even that people tune it all out. One big crisis/issue is one thing but we have several. It's so overwhelming that people just shut down and distract themselves.



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 08:08 PM
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The biggest known critic of the US executive branch is Ron Paul.

I'll bet a lot of people are regretting voting for Obama right about now, not like Romney would've been any better...instead he would've been worse in many ways.

None of the ACTUAL issues are brought up during the presidential elections, the only one talking about them is Ron Paul and some other figures like Kucinich, Rand Paul, Jesse Ventura...etc...



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 08:13 PM
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I switched from "unaffiliated" to "Republican" just so I could take part in the primaries. I had "Ron Paul" signs in every corner of my yard.

Then, it became clear that he had NO CHANCE of winning. So, yes, I was gullible and voted for Obama.

Unfortunately, the 'Tea Party' folks are now as wacked as ANY of the extremist groups. My at-the-last-minute favored candidate was Gary Johnson. Again, NO CHANCE.

I AM SICK that I voted for this man who has AMPLIFIED the special forces and secrecy - when what he was CAMPAIGNING on was "transparency and accountability."

A-HOLE!!!! LIAR!!!!!

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posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 08:18 PM
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Was this "book" turned into a movie/documentary?
Both were released simultaneously. The movie/doc is only showing in select theatres. It won the Sundance Festival award. But, no, it's not a Hollywood Blockbuster release or anything.


If so - I think it's available, now... Might give it a watch.

Here's the trailer:



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 08:23 PM
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Here's the link again for anyone who's interested:
Dirty Wars by Jeremy Scahill.



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 08:25 PM
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reply to post by WanDash
 

Here's an article that describes the findings:

www.scientificamerican.com...



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by wildtimes
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Here's an article that describes the findings:

www.scientificamerican.com...

Thanks!
That's scary. I guess that if I'd put much thought into it, I would have suspected such an outcome...but, I was always side-tracked with other aspects.
If they are less trusting & less trustworthy than their peers (born a few years earlier)...and that is supposed to be significantly worse than in other places (where such restrictions are not in place), that paints an unpleasant picture, as it seems we have more than our fair share of the same...right here in the USA.



posted on Jul, 3 2013 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by wildtimes
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I would counter your claim that the executive branch is the most corrupt; it all began with operation paperclip and the creation of the CIA. The militaries lust for power after WW2 funneled into the unaccountable secret service an old boys club that came out of the OSS. The root of the cancer is the intelligence branch of the government.

Yes, you are correct.

And when Bush/Cheney and Rumsfeld and Petraus were in charge, they merged the two ---- into JSOC, black ops, etc and fixed it so that Congress had NO IDEA what was going on!!

Please, read Scahill's Dirty Wars. You will be shocked, sickened, and have been disabused of your unawareness (which I don't mean in a bad way -----)

I will have to add it to my list I am currently reading A terrible mistake the murder of Frank Olson and the follow up book A Secret Order: Investigating the High Strangeness and Synchronicity in the JFK Assassination by H. P. Albarelli Jr. thanks for the addition on my to read list.



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posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by Happy1
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Exactly - privately owned world BANKS.

Don't get too enthralled with the snowdens, assanges, and such just yet.

TPTB understand their "message" is being questioned..... Throw out a few red herrings, so the lemmings will bite.

What is their ultimate goal? Depopulation and slavery - to the world bank.



I'm not sure I believe that depopulation and slavery are rational goals for the Banksters (for want of a better name). Not saying that it isn't their agenda but when one follows it through - who's going keep feeding the coffers if everyone is killed off. The Banks make their huge unearned profits by simple trickle up economics - a pyramid scheme that falls apart without the little people paying half, or more, of their income to interest in one form or another - and so on and so on. The Elite won't survive as such without this Perpetual Growth (or decay in actuallity).

Somebody has to do the work, somebody has to be available to be exploited. There is no WiNNING if there is no one to cheat. And that's the game people. It's not the actual money so much as "getting away with something" that drives these people. They care about nothing but winning, getting what they want with no regard to the future or others.



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 02:31 AM
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That's almost word for word what I said about 15 years ago when I first realized that reality is not what I always thought it was.

Give yourself about 2 more years and you'll see that depopulation is one of their goals.

You can start by looking at the internet and how people have so much more info at their fingertips (especially the third world countries) and the people become a problem,

Look at the Georgia guidestones, albert pike and his WW3 musings, read the protocols of the leaders of zion --
Look at the jesuits and their oath - and look at the vatican and the new jesuit pope francis......

TPTB are getting panicky right now - look at the IMF loan agreement that the muslim brotherhood of egypt signed right before they were ousted today......

Like I said - I thought the same thing before I went further into the rabbit hole..



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 05:27 AM
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Okay, so instead of having these "wars" which assist in culling the population and allow the governments to be rid of the most aggressive people that could be a threat to them, you would rather they just drive thru local neighborhoods and roundup people to slaughter for the same end? It would amount to the same thing. The world's population is growing and must be controlled in some fashion or all will perish. This is the way the world's governments have decided on, like a big game of football, you get your teams together and everyone fights for yards of ground that gets given back at the end of the game. We cut the population, the folks at home get to cheer and we sell some tee shirts. That's all this is. I was in the service for 21 years and in my units this was the consensus viewpoint. We weren't bitter about it, it was just how the game was played. I spent some time in the middle east and was lucky enough to come home. I don't agree with the current game, but I think it's better than the Orwellian nightmare that we would have for population control without it. What would it be? Putting down old people visiting hospitals? Or would there be a maximum cap on how old you could live to be, like in Logan's run? The alternatives are indeed frightening. I fear that we are all in for some dark times ahead. I just don't see any way out of them. It's not like the voice of the people is anything but a sham now.


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posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 12:21 PM
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This American gov't has become intolerable. They spy on everyone in the world; they use the FBI, IRS, DOJ etc to screw their political enemies; they counterfeit trillions of dollars to buy foreign assets and cause high inflation; they let NYC banksters rob billions from people all over the world and refuse to prosecute them; the US State Dept refuses to allow any of the banksters to be extradited to countries wanting to prosecute them: these financial criminals run a totally crooked stock market: high speed computers front-run trades and run wash schemes (computers run prices up or down allowing billions to be skimmed); they set all futures prices and rates crookedly to skim billions; they support wars everywhere for profit and plunder; they murder people using drones and other means; they own and control all the mass media and unless people find other sources, all they know is gov't propaganda; they are taking over the Western world and installing a criminal NWO elite that intends to eliminate billions of ordinary people; Homeland Security has purchased billions of bullets and built perhaps 50 extermination camps; they're most favored companies are like Blackstone and Monsanto which sells seeds that make mammals sterile and cause numerous health problems; the US gov't promotes Cultural Communism, porno, homosexuality; they steal other countries gold; they are the enemy of religions, etc. Their is flagrant vote fraud and we cannot vote them out. Please if you can, sell American stocks and bonds; then buy gold and silver which they have driven down or farmland, etc. My sympathy to User12345 above especially since NYC banksters probably made it worse but I would rather see my American finance and gov't collapsed and have a chance to democratically replace it than have it continue to piss off the world until countries unite to destroy us.



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 01:16 PM
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posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 08:43 PM
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The Banks make their huge unearned profits by simple trickle up economics - a pyramid scheme that falls apart without the little people paying half, or more, of their income to interest in one form or another - and so on and so on. The Elite won't survive as such without this Perpetual Growth (or decay in actuallity).

Somebody has to do the work, somebody has to be available to be exploited. There is no WiNNING if there is no one to cheat. And that's the game people.

YEP! That's how I see it, too.



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 08:53 PM
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True only because top executives for every govt branch are picked by the winning presidential team. They should be picked, hired, kept on or fired only by the majority votes by the legislatures of the states 10 days after the presidential race is certified final.



posted on Jul, 4 2013 @ 09:07 PM
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Very interesting video, MsA. I starred it....
but, could you please elaborate on your thoughts and reasons for posting it?
Sorry ......
I'm a little tired, and may not be following as closely as I should be.

Take care.




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