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Originally posted by Logarock
Originally posted by SpearMint
reply to post by Superhans
Atheist groups (as you call them, I'm not aware of them) won't care about yoga for the reasons I listed above. It doesn't have to have any religious connections at all, and it's actually beneficial. It usually isn't practiced in a way that has anything to do with religion and the activity itself doesn't shove any religious views down your throat.
Well you haven't created a list of criteria on a thing being religious or not. What you have done is water down the definition of yoga to a point to make it less susceptible to the harsh criteria that you yourself enjoy when talking about other religions.
The fact is these seemingly religious neutral Yoga fundamentals do stem from a main stream and old religion.....Om is the word.
Originally posted by SpearMint
Let's not resort to petty insults, you are not communicating your point effectively. I'm still not completely sure what it is. Are you saying that praying can just be a practice without indoctrination? In which case, it most certainly can't. Like I said before, it relies entirely on the premise that there is a God.edit on 2-7-2013 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Yoga is deeply religious. It is a Hindu practice and its aims are religious as well.
As opposed to the traditional practice, physical focus on Yoga became popular in the west beginning in the second half of the 20th century, and is often referred to simply as "Yoga" in the context of health and physical exercise.
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The hatha yoga predominantly practiced in the West consists of mostly asanas understood as physical exercises. It is also recognized as a stress-reducing practice.
First of all, the claim that Yoga is not religious is complete hogwash. Its something that the secular part of society is making up and being dishonest about to justify the use of something as beneficial as Yoga.
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If Yoga is allowed, praying in school should also be allowed.
Originally posted by Logarock
Originally posted by SpearMint
Let's not resort to petty insults, you are not communicating your point effectively. I'm still not completely sure what it is. Are you saying that praying can just be a practice without indoctrination? In which case, it most certainly can't. Like I said before, it relies entirely on the premise that there is a God.edit on 2-7-2013 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)
We have art teachers in public schools that teach students to make "dream catchers" after the native american spiritualism/shamanism. My kids have brought some home. These things entirely operate on the premise of communication with high powers/disembodied sprits. It is in fact religious indoctrination. These things cannot be made in art class without some measure of accompanying indoctrination as to a premise. And Yoga has a premise that goes way beyond relaxation. In fact the relaxation part is simply the preparation for the spiritual part.
Are you seriously going to set here in a group as intelligent as many are on ATS and try to pass Yoga off as a form of relaxation? As if no one is smart enough or know enough to evaluate this beyond a "Yoga for dummies" level?
Originally posted by cconn487
Well according to the bible the body is a temple. So if you aren't are a "recognized" christian, your pretty much worshiping a false idol/god by performing yoga? Really? That is the only reason I can think of for a church organization to not like yoga.
Originally posted by Redarguo
You can tech kids about religion and culture with out it being indoctrination.
Originally posted by Logarock
Originally posted by Redarguo
You can tech kids about religion and culture with out it being indoctrination.
But many and maybe yourself don't hold that stamen true for Christianity being taught in public schools.
Originally posted by Logarock
Originally posted by SpearMint
Let's not resort to petty insults, you are not communicating your point effectively. I'm still not completely sure what it is. Are you saying that praying can just be a practice without indoctrination? In which case, it most certainly can't. Like I said before, it relies entirely on the premise that there is a God.edit on 2-7-2013 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)
We have art teachers in public schools that teach students to make "dream catchers" after the native american spiritualism/shamanism. My kids have brought some home. These things entirely operate on the premise of communication with high powers/disembodied sprits. It is in fact religious indoctrination. These things cannot be made in art class without some measure of accompanying indoctrination as to a premise. And Yoga has a premise that goes way beyond relaxation. In fact the relaxation part is simply the preparation for the spiritual part.
Are you seriously going to set here in a group as intelligent as many are on ATS and try to pass Yoga off as a form of relaxation? As if no one is smart enough or know enough to evaluate this beyond a "Yoga for dummies" level?
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Yoga is deeply religious. It is a Hindu practice and its aims are religious as well.
Originally posted by Superhans
To say yoga is not religious is just stupid, it would be like saying prayer is not religious if you called it happy time and did it silent.
Originally posted by Thundersmurf
What next? - Pilates is devil worship?
Originally posted by Skyfloating
At first sight this looked like good news to me. I practice Yoga and I believe that it can be very, very, very beneficial to school-children for both mental and physical strength.
But looking at the details of this ruling, there are two things wrong with it: First of all, the claim that Yoga is not religious is complete hogwash. Its something that the secular part of society is making up and being dishonest about to justify the use of something as beneficial as Yoga. Yoga is deeply religious. It is a Hindu practice and its aims are religious as well.
Secondly, it being religious, allowing Yoga violates the separation of church and state. If Yoga is allowed, praying in school should also be allowed.
My guess is that whoever is in charge of Academia cant get themselves to admit that something religious might be beneficial for the kids so they have to pretend that it is not religious. Otherwise Christians and Muslims could request that prayers not be banned from school.
www.foxnews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)edit on 2-7-2013 by Skyfloating because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Thundersmurf
Originally posted by Thundersmurf
What next? - Pilates is devil worship?
It IS??? Oh, crap! Now I'm going to have to stop worshiping the devil AND practicing religion! How am I supposed to get my exercise? Is swimming religious?