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SCI/TECH: Privacy concerns with X-ray Scanner

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posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 02:19 PM
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Most of you will know that the technology today has enabled us to see through people's clothes. This technology using X-ray, infra-red or anything else on the electromagnetic spectrum has caused many privacy concerns. At Heathrow Airport in the UK, an X-ray security scanner has been deployed on trial. This is very effective on spotting hidden explosives and weapons, however this device can also see a person's naked body.
 



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An x-ray security scanner that sees through peoples' clothes has been deployed at Heathrow Airport.

The device, at Terminal 4, produces a 'naked' image of passengers by bouncing X-rays off their skin.

It means staff can instantly spot any hidden weapons or explosives - but the graphic black and white images raise privacy concerns.




Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


This technology has been around for a while and its not new. This news just concludes that it will be used more often as time passes.

Security is more important than privacy. At the expensive of most honest people just wanting to travel, terrorism has made us go through these measures which will probably last for a while.

Im sure, this system of security will be abused by some. All we can hope is that these security people stick to the job the were given and not to "perv" on innocent travelers.

What do you think about this new system. This is a trial but I see that it will pass because as Ive said, security is more important than privacy.

[edit on 8/11/2004 by Channy]




posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 02:44 PM
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...and now the move to skin covered or internal weaponry. Lesson learned: if a burglar wants to get into your house bad enough, they are going to get in. Can you think of a technological advancement that did not have a counter? Missles and antimissles, exploding shells and reactive armor, ICBMs and killer satellites. Just a thought.



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by saint4God
...and now the move to skin covered or internal weaponry. Lesson learned: if a burglar wants to get into your house bad enough, they are going to get in. Can you think of a technological advancement that did not have a counter? Missles and antimissles, exploding shells and reactive armor, ICBMs and killer satellites. Just a thought.


What do you think tin-foil hats are for? The arms race has begun anew.



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 03:26 PM
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On the one hand, I think this sounds like good, clean fun. There's nothing wrong with a little nakedness now and again.

On the other hand, metal detectors have been doing jes' fine at detecting weapons composed with metals. If a guy wanted to use a plastique explosive duct taped to his thigh, this will just make him go the extra mile of putting it inside his body. You know where I'm talkin' about. This minor alteration of his will reduce the privacy of many people and it's probably not worth it. This was kind of stated above.

Then there's this. I don't care of some airport security jerks see my monster, but what about children? I don't have any but that doesn't stop me from not liking the idea of security wangs looking at children naked. That's illegal.

Zip



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 05:02 PM
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I have to say that normal x-ray machines at Airports can see through 1 inch of metal (except Lead).

So I suppose Metal underwear is out of the question? Lead would be too heavy.

But seriously I think the Screening staff would get bored of Joe public after a while and just have a Perv when Celebrities go through



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 05:08 PM
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Here's what the scan looks like:

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posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by BushWhacker
Here's what the scan looks like:

www.flysouth.co.za...



Some time ago there was an issue raised regarding people who are Transgendered (I think thats the right name) and the privacy laws (and Human rights).

The image shows a woman who looks like she is in swimwear. Computors soon will be able to put all the features and clothes back on........



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 05:24 PM
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I have nothing to hide or to be embarrassed of, so I say bring it on. I can't imagine that these images would show any great detail anyway, just general topography. Next, I imagine they'll we wanting to "inspect" genital piercings to verify that they're not really weapons



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 05:32 PM
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We are dealing with national security here.... if you have a problem with some one looking at your computer enhanced naked body then you have some options. 1. Dont fly. 2. Loose weight you fat cow 3. Become less self consious 4. Relise its you naked, or a shoe bomb on board. 4. Pretend no one is looking. 5. Get a life...

Things changes, times change, and national security procedures change to get with the times. I suggest we become used to this or we go to strip searches, cause its one or the other.



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 06:06 PM
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Big deal - I don't have a problem with nakedness. You are what you are and if you not happy with it you get to hide it behind fancy clothes and pretend your something else 99% of the time.

I'd much rather someone see me naked through an X-ray type scan for an airport security check then be patted down (touched) by a stranger, or made to go into a room & undress. As long as the images are kept where they belong and not distrubuted on the internet I don't see it as a problem with it.



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 06:24 PM
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I'm fine with it as long as there isn't some perv behind the camera, and that the images get automaticaly erased after the person is done. and there should be no firewire or usb ports conected to the device, because we all know that data saving devices are getting very small (like a key chain or watch). So as long as they cant save any images then its acceptable.



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 10:07 PM
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No one has acknowledged my comment on children walking through these things... Perv or not, the screener will see lots and lots of young and teen people naked.

Zip



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by Zipdot
No one has acknowledged my comment on children walking through these things... Perv or not, the screener will see lots and lots of young and teen people naked.

Zip


- whats the age matter?



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 10:22 PM
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well after looking at the scan image, i got to say , you got to be some kinda freak to be able to get off over a blue bald plasticine person.



posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 12:24 AM
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I can't really see anything wrong with the use of this technology except for some concern about picking up a few extra rads. Frequent-- and I mean frequent -- flyers might have a legitimate concern about radiation from x-rays but aside from this, who cares? I checked an image of what this scan would show and all I can say is that only a major perv would find any titilation from such an "intrusion" of privacy. I'll worry when we start seeing porn sites on the web which feature x-ray images for those who find sexual gratification from such images.



posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 12:29 AM
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When are we going to get a scanner like the one in Total Recall that would be cool work great and privcy would be a issue. Well unless people dont want anyone to see there skeletons.



posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 01:11 AM
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Once they are able to miniaturize this technology enough that it can be incorporated into eyeglasses, the childhood dream of every boy in America will have become a reality.

If they made them with spiral lenses, that would be the ultimate in coolness.


The hard part will be making the glasses cheap enough to be sold out of the backs of comic books.



posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 01:43 AM
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think about if this is the technology now, whats the future like? detailed graphics with colour, lol.

i know someone who had their nipple pierced and had to flash their boobs in order to let security see it wasnt a bomb....hmmm? she was pretty looking person as well. conclusion is there are pervs that have security jobs. dont you think they already get the thrill out of hand searching?

security? its never 100% i say as well. different places take different things. in manchester airport (uk) they missed scissors but took a glasses screwdriver. the dutch airport picked up the scissors. is this something do with legislation of the country or was this a mistake that could have cost alot.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 02:13 PM
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I have no problem with the use of this technology but you know it will be abused. First good looking woman/man to pass through there will probably cause a mad scramble of security gaurds to get to the monitors.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 02:28 PM
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Privacy Concerns? OMFG What about the Health Concerns from X-Ray radiation....



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