Egypt's military gives politicians a 48-hour ultimatum

Originally posted by all2human
reply to post by ozoman

 

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I guess you want me to translate?

reply to post by ozoman


secular governments that don't start worshipping science to the point they lose their humanitarianism, are often the best, simply because they try to be fair and equitable to everyone and don't carry around big axes to grind on their latest religious/non-religious opponents. beyond that, it's only when you get people in power who have agendas, that it can be a problem in a democracy. a good leader works for the good of all the people, not some of the people.

Originally posted by Briles1207
This goes off once, what will stop them from repeating this the next time a leader goes back on his word?

I think that's the point, if they can be held to their word then over time this is not needed, because they will be elected based on what they actually promised, and they'll know that if they don't deliver it the people can simply remove them.

That's real democracy, after all, right? The majority opinion should rule in most matters, unless it's something which directly attacks the freedoms of others to live as they wish. If a president gains office promising to lower employment and increase housing, then if they don't do that while spending billions on national security instead the people can again come out onto the streets and remove their leader.

This is what is supposed to happen in a democratically awake nation, where the people are engaged with politics, pay attention to what their politicians promised, and then hold them to it.

It's funny that this concept seems to alien to many in the West, and it says a lot about how apathetic our public have become. The fact that people in the West find this all so surprising is what's really telling. Egyptians are engaged, aware, passionate and determined. We sit back and grunt when our leader is defying the will of the people and just mumble, "meh, what can you do?"

Update:

The deaths have increased to 16, thousands injured.

The army has requested that the people show their support to the army by protesting until the Army announces what it will do. I personally think the military will go against Mursi, if they asked for the people's support. Also one of the phrases the protesters chant is "The people, the police and the army are 1 hand".

2 or so hours left before the end of the time limit and the Military says what it will do.

Obama's unpopularity is growing among the protesters, more signs held by the protesters are criticizing Obama. The signs pretty much say Obama is supporting a terrorist group in Egypt that is trying to start a civil war and destabilize the country.

These next hours, will decide whether the terrorist group ruling Egypt supported by Obama will stay and wreck havoc or gotten rid of once and for all.

Originally posted by ozoman

I would say we are more focused on taking him down.
If I was to take a guess, I would say it would to be an organized and known party possibly Al-nour but then again Egypt doesn't want a leader to be an Islamic party so its really hard to guess at this point.

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Isn't there any left leaning parties like socialist or communist in egypt?

Are all the parties right wing?

I know religion is a big deal in the middle east and that is sad.

Originally posted by ozoman

Obama's unpopularity is growing among the protesters, more signs held by the protesters are criticizing Obama. The signs pretty much say Obama is supporting a terrorist group in Egypt that is trying to start a civil war and destabilize the country.

The EU and especially UK is also big part of the problem.

NATO itself is the problem. They support terrorist puppets in power to coerce and rob resources.

Here's the reuters live feed from tahrir square. They seem to be celebrating something, what i don't know.

reuters.livestation.com...

Update;

The Egyptian military through its most recent announcement pretty much told Obama to # off and didn't listen to his threat of withdrawing military aid. The armed forces has arrested Mursi and he will be put on trial for dividing Egypt and attempting to start a civil war. There will be early presidential elections. All major Muslim Brotherhood leaders are banned from traveling outside Egypt and will most likely be arrested. All news channels that were biased towards the MB are taken down by the military. The military said they will not get involved in politics, their job is to protect the Egyptian people. All the protests are turned into celebrations. Cheers and songs everywhere, Egyptian flags in the air.

The people have won once again. All power to the people.
There is no place for an extremist or corrupt government in Egypt.
May this be a lesson for our next presidents.
Egyptians will not watch anyone ruin their country.

Bye bye Muslim Brotherhood, may your days be limited in all other countries worldwide. May we never see the Muslim Brotherhood ever again in Egypt. The mosque and the church have united to take down the Muslim Brotherhood.

To all future Egyptian Presidents, if the military gives you a 48 ultimatum you had better listen....



cause the military is true to their word.


Peace