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Obama tells US media to ‘behave,’ meanwhile millions protest in Egypt.

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posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 01:52 PM
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That is pure bigotry. Those people wouldn't have nearly the amount of extremism to deal with if other countries would stop interfering with their politics and social issues.


2000+ years of violence, Kali.

How long has the US been interfering again?




The peaceful people didn't want Morsi to begin with, they wanted a free election which Mubarak was denying them. Morsi won with 51% of the vote even though he promised during his 'negotiations on behalf of the people' that the Muslim Brotherhood wouldn't even enter the race.

That’s right…the Muslim Brotherhood won with 51% of the vote! What does that tell you?





Funny how you're right this very minute condemning the 'good ones' that are speaking out against the 'madness governing their countires'.

My point was that nothing will change.

It would be completely naïve on your part to think any measure of western support would ever make the ME a peaceful place.


Haven’t we figured this out yet?




posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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So now you completely contradict yourself.......Mubarak was secular and against the muslim brotherhood. Ergo his supporters are secular and dis like the brotherhood...... now I know your just being obtuse on purpose.


THIS was the contradiction

The didn't like Mubarak because he wasn't a hardliner they elected a relgious hardline 'government' now someone is saying they didn't want a religous hardline government because Mubarak was 'better'.

NO.

They want a HARDLINE GOVERNMENT Morsi is not deleivering that.


You're hopeless..........

Have you personally talked with any Egyptians? In not, your personal opinions are moot



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 02:06 PM
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Western support? That does nothing but make the situation worse, IMO. I don't get why you would even say that to me...



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 02:07 PM
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Obviously truth is always 'hopeless'

Yeah apparently the only one in the thread that isn't allowed to have an opinion are those who don't jump on the 'OH GOD,OH GOD, look at that awesome protest in Egypt ' bandwagon.


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posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 02:19 PM
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2000+ years of violence, Kali.


That's a good point, I wonder if civilization will begin and end there,



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 02:33 PM
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That’s right…the Muslim Brotherhood won with 51% of the vote! What does that tell you?


It tells me that 49% of Egyptian voters didn't want the Muslim Brotherhood.



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
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That’s right…the Muslim Brotherhood won with 51% of the vote! What does that tell you?


It tells me that 49% of Egyptian voters didn't want the Muslim Brotherhood.


And the point is?

Thats 'Democracy' in action mob rule just like how 49% in this country didn't want what they got, and there wishes be damned.



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 02:42 PM
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This 2000 years of violence pails insignificant compared with the violence committed in Europe during the last two world wars. Lets not forget the violent acts committed by both sides during these wars. It's not just Egypt that has a violent history.



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 02:45 PM
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And the point is?

Thats 'Democracy' in action mob rule just like how 49% in this country didn't want what they got, and there wishes be damned.


Some would also call that a tyranny of the majority..



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
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So you look at them as subhumans? Typical white nationalist thinking.


White Nationalist???? Are those the only people with 2 eyes and a brain?


He’s right - there is nobody in the ME worthy of our support or admiration. Over 1,000 years of violence, war, religious intolerance, discrimination of all types and bigotry, and it all stems from one thing……Islam.


The ME will never be a peaceful place. It’s much easier to count the few non-radicals than the many radicals. There is no way the ME will ever be anything but a third world terrorist haven.


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It's a shame that life has led you down the path of sociopathic hatred for your fellow human being. I feel sorry for you.



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 03:11 PM
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It's a shame that life has led you down the path of sociopathic hatred for your fellow human being. I feel sorry for you.


I'm not the one name-calling assigning derogatory titles to people I disagree with (white nationalist).

Rather than worrying about me why not address the issue?



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 03:16 PM
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Because hyperbole and vitriol always makes their 'opinions' right!

Back to the protest of posters who have other things to worry about than a protest in Egypt.
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posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 03:17 PM
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Ah yes,...the wonderful "Revolution" of the "The Arab Spring", where it was completely predictable except to the naive protesters and that the economy would plummet and the country be be taken over by theocratic fascism.

Especially youth are always baffled at how their idealistic notions were completely at odds with how countries are actually run. In America we have similarly naive youth...they are called Obama-voters.
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posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 03:19 PM
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Western support? That does nothing but make the situation worse, IMO. I don't get why you would even say that to me...


I guess you forgot about the comment I was responding to. Neo said:

I honestly do there is NO ONE in the middle east that is worthy of anyone's 'support or admiration'.


You said:

Funny how you're right this very minute condemning the 'good ones' that are speaking out against the 'madness governing their countires'.


If you're mad that I'm condemning them that tells me you think we should support them (condemn is an antonym of support)….

I agree with Neo...there is no one in the ME worthy of support. It's going to be a sewer no matter what.



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


This 2000 years of violence pails insignificant compared with the violence committed in Europe during the last two world wars. Lets not forget the violent acts committed by both sides during these wars. It's not just Egypt that has a violent history.


True that, I once looked up the most losses in any battle it was not in modern times, but I forgot the name and place.



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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I agree, that is the problem with most people in this country they want to stick there nose into every ones business unless its there own business.



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


This 2000 years of violence pails insignificant compared with the violence committed in Europe during the last two world wars. Lets not forget the violent acts committed by both sides during these wars. It's not just Egypt that has a violent history.


2000 years of this:



Pales?

Insignificant?

Tell that to the millions died during that era.

That was before 'Geneva conventions' etc no holds barred anything goes.


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posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 04:08 PM
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What I find telling is that Obama referred to the journalists as "my press" ,
then backhands them with comments about how much nicer the room is there
than The West Wing.


"This is much more elegant than the White House press room," Obama said, referring to the more cramped media quarters in the West Wing. "It's a big improvement."



posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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Obviously truth is always 'hopeless'

Yeah apparently the only one in the thread that isn't allowed to have an opinion are those who don't jump on the 'OH GOD,OH GOD, look at that awesome protest in Egypt ' bandwagon.


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So you haven't talked to any Egyptians or have any first hand knowledge......here's a quick reply from one of my friends ( short 'cause it was sent via mobile, she's hopefully gonna expand when she gets to her comp)

the caps are her's




YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY WRONG. LISTEN TO WHAT ********* ( Connector) IS SAYING ##snipped##.



~ETA~ I should say that in the message i sent her, I referenced economics, jobs and Morsi placing too many hardliners in positions of power.

~ETA2~ Ok...after some T&C quoting confusion and subsequent clarification from DontTreadOnMe....I'd like to say she messaged back to apologize for being rude. Basically she said that hearing someone believes and is perpetuating a false reason for the protests( wanting more hardliners, when it's the opposite), made her blood boil.

I've asked her to check out the site and register is she's comfortable. Then we will get some personal perspectives from in the Egyptian streets.






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edit on Mon Jul 1 2013 by DontTreadOnMe because: We expect civility and decorum within all topics.

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posted on Jul, 1 2013 @ 04:52 PM
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I'm sure that's exactly how the British Loyalists felt about the young revolutionaries protesting and mumbling about leaving the Kingdom and doing silly things like dumping tea into harbors or is it that sole exception to the rule that protests and revolutions don't work and are nothing more than flights of fancy from rebellious youths?

Give me a frigging break.


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If you're mad that I'm condemning them that tells me you think we should support them (condemn is an antonym of support)….


Discussion in which I defend bigotry and dispute misinformation does in no way equate to me saying we should lend western support. They will find their way just fine without our help.


I agree with Neo...there is no one in the ME worthy of support. It's going to be a sewer no matter what.


It's really disgusting that you can condemn billions of people that way.



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