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To whom? The "reaction" from the government has been that the type and amount of data being collected and retained is a high-level top secret. Selling the data would reveal what is supposedly secret.
whyamIhere
It seems this data would be valuable to private industry for targeted advertising.
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Originally posted by Archie
Yes, it's all good to know.
I just wanted to add that that article and your post illustrate brilliantly why there needs to be much greater accountability surrounding these programs when it comes to the private metadata/data of private citizens which is why as many people as possible should try to get to their nearest Restore the Fourth rally and press TPTB to take notice. Turning away and saying "It's unstoppable, we're all screwed" is not really an option.
Im not sure this is a real gov site.
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Originally posted by uncommitted
Originally posted by Archie
Yes, it's all good to know.
I just wanted to add that that article and your post illustrate brilliantly why there needs to be much greater accountability surrounding these programs when it comes to the private metadata/data of private citizens which is why as many people as possible should try to get to their nearest Restore the Fourth rally and press TPTB to take notice. Turning away and saying "It's unstoppable, we're all screwed" is not really an option.
So, and this is a serious question, when you see some sites you go on (ahem, hint) seem to have ads pushed at you that may be to do with 'looking for love', 'looking for sex', 'looking for guns', 'looking for a bug out bag', 'looking for a new diet' or whatever, do you not stop and think why you are seeing different ads to the next person? Does it not worry you that sites you have visited in the past are helping ad sites build up an idea of what they should be pushing onto your screen?
It still comes under the definition of meta data for all intents and purposes, but I don't think I saw any comment about you 'restoring the fourth' so that the sites in question don't allow advertising companies to do this. Interesting. When government does it under a banner of protection you seem to have an issue. When commercial sites do something similar in concept if not execution - after all, they are just after your money - it doesn't concern you?
uncommitted
When government does it under a banner of protection you seem to have an issue. When commercial sites do something similar in concept if not execution - after all, they are just after your money - it doesn't concern you?
Originally posted by Archie
reply to post by tridentblue
that's utter babbling nonsense and you know it. troll someone else.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
reply to post by tridentblue
Information theory isn't reliable in a big-data world: en.wikipedia.org... The concepts, when applied to very large datasets, attempt to predict the probabilities of the value of missing data. In normal quantitative analysis and other applications, this can be effective -- but not in the world of pattern-matching, extraction, and unstructured data of big-data analysis.
For example, if the NSA wants to determine if the activity of your cell phone matches the activity patterns of cellphones used by terrorists, they need all the data, from everywhere, in order to know the full spectrum of activity patterns. Information theory doesn't provide the accuracy, which is why PRISM was created.
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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
uncommitted
When government does it under a banner of protection you seem to have an issue. When commercial sites do something similar in concept if not execution - after all, they are just after your money - it doesn't concern you?
Online advertisers use non-itentifying data that associates activity on the computer with a number of things to organize the delivery of ads. The most important being frequency management, followed by targeting. For example, right now I'm seeing ads from the women's clothing store Caché on ATS. Most likely because I built their first website long ago, and recently went there to see what they're doing lately.
The government, oh the other hand, knows who the metadata belongs to, and can dig deep to learn many things you rather they (or anyone) not know.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
reply to post by tridentblue
In terms of applying divergence, yes. But transinformation and entropy don't apply to the highly-structured metadata used in PRISM. Such data has no inherent entropy, and instead, becomes more normalized the more we have.
Originally posted by NoSoul
One day they'll kill people for being "potential terrorists"
Abdulrahman al-Awlaki wasn't on an American kill list. Nor was he a member of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninusla. Nor was he "an inspiration," as his father styled himself, for those determined to draw American blood; nor had he gone "operational," as American authorities said his father had, in drawing up plots against Americans and American interests. He was a boy who hadn't seen his father in two years, since his father had gone into hiding. He was a boy who knew his father was on an American kill list and who snuck out of his family's home in the early morning hours of September 4, 2011, to try to find him. He was a boy who was still searching for his father when his father was killed, and who, on the night he himself was killed, was saying goodbye to the second cousin with whom he'd lived while on his search, and the friends he'd made. He was a boy among boys, then; a boy among boys eating dinner by an open fire along the side of a road when an American drone came out of the sky and fired the missiles that killed them all.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
whyamIhere My questions SO., are how long until our cash strapped government is selling this information
To whom?
Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
reply to post by jude11
Ironically, doing "nothing wrong" is about the wrongest thing you can do these days.