I wasn't sure what Forum to post this in, because it confuses me alot and has me wondering, but I'll take a guess and post it here in the Paranormal forum.

A few months ago, when I was on my way back from the Theif River mental health clinic after a suicide attempt, I saw something that I thought was severely out of place.

1.) It was an Owl, sitting in plain site in the brush near the road, I saw him/her clearly, and to boot it was White. A White Owl in the middle of the day sitting next to the road.

I didn't think too much about it till about two months later, I asked my grandmother about it.

She told me a story that scared the scheisse out of me.

She said, one time when her and a friend were on there way from somewhere ( I forget, since it's not really that important of a detail), her friend saw an Owl in the middle of the day during their drive. They were on their way to the casino, she said her friend mentioned the Owl to her but neither paid any attention to it.

They were sitting in the casino playing their favourite game when my grandmothers friend (same one who had witnessed the Owl), fell the to the ground. She had had a heart attack, long story short she didn't make it. Period.

Now when I heard this, I must've looked like a carton of milk I was so white from fear.

"That was the only expierience I ever had with an Owl being seen during the day," she said.

I always heard seeing an Owl during daytime was an Omen of some sort, since Owls are a night bird, but doing some research on the net I didn't find out what exactly they are an omen for, but rather, that they have always (for the most part) been associated with evil forces.

Now I posted this here to hopefully gain some insite from the more spirtually affluent peoples of the board.

I want to know: am I screwed?
What does the Omen mean.
And, should I be worried?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I'm still worried over this whole thing... Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[edit on 8-11-2004 by Weise]

Well you did try to commit suicide as I read it. Sounds like you're pretty much screwed

Originally posted by superdude
Well you did try to commit suicide as I read it. Sounds like you're pretty much screwed

Would you please try to be a little bit more considerate?

I had went through alot of things in my life that had driven me to a darker path than most choose to take. I split the flesh on my wrist with a box opener, painting the floor of my bedroom with blood I shouldn't have spilt. After sitting there for what seemed like hours (which apparently was only minutes), I had the revelation that this was not the path.

It was my dicision to seek medical treatment, as on the other hand I could've chose to sit there until enough blood drained from my downward lascerations on my wrists to die.

I am now on Anti-depressants, and just because you've probably never been through anything Like I have doesn't give you the write to say what you have.

I am trying to turn my life around, I'm trying really hard, the attitudes of people like you are what set me back.



[edit on 8-11-2004 by Weise]

Sorry, I didn't mean to be insulting. Unfortunately a failed attempt at humor.

Originally posted by superdude
Sorry, I didn't mean to be insulting. Unfortunately a failed attempt at humor.

Eh... No problem, I would try to be a little bit more easy about it all, except it's hard to be humorous about the things I've been through. No worries though man, water under the bridge.

don´t interpret so much things in that storys. You have other problems that you have to grapple with----with no ill intend!

I mean, if I had such problems like you dude, i wouldn´t waste my time with that stuff, or am im totally wrong

I'm getting over much of the problems I've had in the past, dacruz, the only reason I'm so worried about this whole thing is it seems to be rooted in truth. If a White Owl is a bad Omen, then I'd rather be prepared than unprepared.

Hey Weise, personally I wouldn't give it another thought. I love to hear those kind of old-wives-tale stories, I really do. But the only ones I give credit to are the medicinal plant ones.

As far as your owl sighting goes - if it were me, I'd just consider myself lucky to have seen such a thing so clearly.

And the very best of luck to you for your future. To go what you've been through already and come out to be posting today proves you've got good spirit.



Jack

Weise :

I do not consider it a bad omen - at least based on a similar experience I had several years ago. My husband and I were camping and had gotten up very early to use our telescope. Just as dawn was breaking I felt a great weight on my head like someone was trying to push me down. As I started to reach up the weight lifted and the most beautiful white owl flew off. My husband and I were speechless. The owl never made a sound and although it perched on my head it never broke the skin or pulled my hair.

So what's my point you ask?

I don't think I have ever felt more at peace or euphoric than I did at that moment. I am a skeptical person by nature and have a tendency to dismiss the world around me as jaded and full of self-interest. This experience had a signficant impact on that view - in short it gave me hope. I can't explain why something some may see as insignificant had such a dramatic impact, but it did and in the end that is all that matters.

Look at this chance (or not so chance) encounter as a physical reminder that you are a special and unique individual who has something to offer and something to live for. Carpe Diem.


U2U me anytime,
Bleys.

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Dear Weise ,
If i could help i would. The 'white owl' is probably only a white owl caught
in the daylight- away from its safety nest-
Is there construction, which may have reduced his/its sanctuary to rubble?

As far as some different 'signs' + 'omens' ...being a precurser to bad things.
i believe that is called superstition....
but, in giving overdue attention to these anomolous 'signs' is an act of
surrendering your own vitality & personal power to that object/sign/omen...

i recall that a 'fluorescent light' burned out, above a choir (60 members), the Haitian nanny at our house said that burned-out-light was a long known omen/token of death....
How many faults of reason & logic can you recognize in that incidence??
?
Do you have any spiritual friends, guides, elders, shamans...to speak with?

+if nothing 'pops up' =synchronistically...visit others, shelters or hospitals or even AA or NA, ->the more you network-> the better the results can be

Bleys, thanks for your uplifting message.

I feel more at ease after reading your post, and that really was all I was looking for. Thanks.

Originally posted by superdude
Well you did try to commit suicide as I read it. Sounds like you're pretty much screwed

I can't believe I just read such a cold callous thing from someone...WTF is wrong with you!?

As to the omen...the problem with omens, is that it depends on which people they come from....in one setting, and owl may mean something bad, and in another something good....they cancel each other out....LOL do not worry about it at all, just am owl
Brightest Blessings to you!

[edit on 11/8/2004 by LadyV]

The owl could mean many things. Perhaps the owl is a sign of a positive change within a persons life. Western society views death as a negative and something that should be feared, but not all cultures feel the same way. Your grandma's friend may have been one of the people that saw death in a more positive light. Perhaps she was a spiritual person, knew her time was near and looked forward to the experience. The thing is that we can't be sure so you shouldn't worry over it.

What is important is the signifigance in your own sighting.

You saw the white owl after delivering a crushing blow to your suicidal tendencies! You saw it on the day you were released from the clinic! You saw it on the day of your journey to lead a better life!

A white owl during the day! An animal usually shrouded in the darkness of night made itself visible to you on they day of your release! With white feathers (the color of purity and a new hope)!

The owl was an omen for your life to come. Like the white owl, you have stopped living your life in the dark. Your future is bright and full of new hope. Trust in that.

[edit on 8-11-2004 by dusran]

And wise we are!

I, too, have had numerous suicide attempts in the past due to having to live with Schizoid-Affective Disorder, which in laymen's terms means living with Schizophrenia and Depression/Mania. As my father told me once, I got dealt the full deck.

Getting dealt the full deck beats five card stud any day. Most "normal" people live lives full of constant choices, not unlike a game of Texas Hold'Em poker, whereas people like us have the entire deck in our hands. A bad analogy, I know, but a true one at that.

I see spirits and hear their thoughts. Tell a doctor that and you get a lifetime supply of anti-psychotics, yet I humor the doctors. I am on twice the human max dose of Seroquel along with a slew of tranquilizers throughout the day to help with impulse control.

Yet I am still able to function like everyone else. However, the reason why I am on such a dangerous dose is because it merely turns their thoughts into whispers.

The Other Realm is real, and symbols of it are placed in front of us every so often. I do not know the symbolism of a white owl, but I know that sparrows and crows are attracted to me, as are most mammals. Three weeks ago I trained a friend's pit bull by using only hand signals.

Embrace your illness. It is not only a part of you, but a part of your aura. You get to see and hear entitities that others do not. Remember that just because others do not see them does not make them false. I once asked a psychiatrist if he'd ever seen the Eiffel Tower. He said no. I then asked him how he knew it could be real.

I love their lack of answers!

Anyways...stay alive. The reason you are alive will never be told to you, that is a question you answer on your deathbed when God decides it's your time to move. Listen to your doctor(s)...they're doing the best they can. They help make life liveable, not just tolerable.

Hold on to your beliefs, but remember that beliefs are like opinions-some should remain in your soul and never be discussed. Discuss only the beliefs that may inflict harm on you or anyone else.

With that said, wait for more signs, as they will always be waiting for you.

Fondly,
Dot.

Edited for editing.
Where's my sig????

[edit on 8-11-2004 by dotgov101]

Let's look at this owl-thing this way:

There are probably a lot more people that have seen a white owl in daylight that have *not* died than people that have. And the people that died probably would have died regardless of seeing the owl.

Don't put too much into your encounter. It was an owl, albeit white, but just an owl and that's that.

No omen and you are still living...don't worry.

// k

You in Canada? Part Indian? Listen, you'll hear a lot of rumors about Owls as bad omens among the People. But they are not, if you get the real info from an Elder. If you're any Indian at all, find a tribal midwife to talk to. Owls are very complex spirit animals and are not signs of doom. We all are going to die someday, so don't rush the end or you'll miss the best parts of the story. It is easy to die; it is hard to live. So do what is hard. Be strong. Live. You are here to use your power to help others and yourself learn. There is so much to see, to understand, to know. It doesn't all feel good, but it is here for us and that in itself is a miracle. Owls are reminders that life does not end with the night. They are spirit guides, guardians and protecters that give the power to understand, to survive, and to heal one's self and others. They are the Medicine Chief of the Bird Nations, humble, silent and powerful. You have been blessed.

I live in Montana, and I see owls all the time out in the country all times of day. Though, I have never seen a white owl, which I will assume is a snow owl, I have seen several other varieties during the day time. You are safe. The heart attack was a coincidence!

Unusual appearances of owls has also been linked with possible UFO abduction cases. Although it's usually linked only with the memory of seeing an owl, not an actual appearance. Unless you have missing time or other inconsistency, this may not apply.

Myself im an ardent lover of nature sure i hunt and trap and other things but all is with reason in its own way otherwise balance would not exist.

The omen of the white owl. Otherwise known as the barn owl or arctic horned owl( i highly doubt it was the latter) is a symbol of death or reincarnation as i had explained to me when i was younger. The owl may be a fortelling of someone close to you dying, or ment as a sign to bring you a revelation. As Part native i have some strange link to the meaning of animals and white owls are never a bad omen unless they fly over you.

The meaning of omens is always very vague but as far as i can figure this owl is definatly a sign of a new beginning as previously stated. Your not in any need of worrying.

However the person who had the owl land on her head is a very complicated omen it has a basic meaning realting to death but not immediate or near you its directly related to you as your death may be tomorrow or in 80 years from now but either way it will not be unpleasant and you will most likely be able to embrace it with warmth.

I personally belive all omens are nothing more than beacons to make you think about what you plan to do and how you will will you destiny to its course or change it either way those are the meanings.

I am sorry i have no cold hard evidence to prove it but those are the things I was raised on and understand now almost intuitivly.

Originally posted by superdude
Well you did try to commit suicide as I read it. Sounds like you're pretty much screwed

What the hell kind of sadistic sob are you? That is one of the illest comments I have ever seen on this board. Instead of offering support to someone who greatly needs it, you ridicule him!?!?!? If he ever does go through with it (hopefully he will not, there are always reasons to live), I hope you can live with his blood on your hands. Somebody please ban this guy, someone with this kind of attitude has no place on ATS.